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B.J. Hill article

short lease : 5/5/2018 6:03 pm

Am I the only one who didn't see this originally? Will delete if it is a repeat.

Smart, tough, hard worker, and consistent... let's see.


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This guy is trying to jinx us -  
short lease : 5/5/2018 6:12 pm : link

"Hes the best, Huxtable raved. I mean that very seriously. Hes the best. Hes smart. He has a great football IQ and works at the game. Hes tough. Theres not a tougher kid Ive been around. Hes durable. I think one of his best abilities is his durability. He was never on an injury list."
Excellent article with many great quotes  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/5/2018 6:37 pm : link
You talk about those double-teams and still being able to make a play, hes strong, Huxtable said. Hes just a strong, powerful kid. Hes never going to give up in the fight. B.J. is that guy that fights the fight and makes the other guy quit because the other guy knows B.J. wont because he has watched him on film.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/5/2018 6:37 pm : link
First and second down, the guy is never on the ground, Doeren said. He has great feet and is extremely strong. His hands will be in the right place and theyre big. He can control blocks and shed blocks and play primary gaps and secondary gaps if he is asked to. Fundamentally, he is the best inside defensive lineman Ive seen on a football team Ive coached.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/5/2018 6:39 pm : link
Hes going to be one of the grinders on that team, Doeren said. He will establish culture with work ethic, for sure. He will not be afraid to get up and talk in front of the team and say what needs to be said. He is not a cheerleader by any means, but he is a very aware person and understands what good culture is and what bad culture is, and hell be able to address situations when he feels like it is time to do it. He will be a positive impact on other people. Hes a very Christian young man that has his life together off the field, and he cares about his teammates and how theyre acting.
I'm impressed that Doeren  
Jay in Toronto : 5/5/2018 6:56 pm : link
Is making these comments. He was highly thought of at Wisconsin and has had his share of close-up contact with excellent players.

He is an elite coach.
It is a good article ...  
short lease : 5/5/2018 6:59 pm : link
says a lot of good stuff about Hill. At first I thought it probably came out right after the draft and could be a "puff" piece but, it looks like it was published today.

If Hill is half as good as the article portrays him - WE GOT A PLAYER!

We will see though - he is in the big leagues now. The thing I like the most though is his coaches are commenting on things that can't be coached - Attitude, Toughness, Strength, Work Habits, Smarts, etc ...
I get the feeling  
Jay on the Island : 5/5/2018 6:59 pm : link
that B.J. Hill is going to be similar to Barry Cofield.
RE: I get the feeling  
short lease : 5/5/2018 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13955674 Jay on the Island said:
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that B.J. Hill is going to be similar to Barry Cofield.


Is that a good thing ... or a bad thing Jay? IIRC, Cofield was a solid player ... not great though?
RE: I get the feeling  
BigBlue4You09 : 5/5/2018 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13955674 Jay on the Island said:
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that B.J. Hill is going to be similar to Barry Cofield.


He better be much better than Cofield, taken about 55 spots sooner I would hope he is.
A captain since his sophomore year...  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/6/2018 7:17 am : link
On that defensive line. Says a lot.
Looking at Hill & McIntosh, I think McIntosh will be the better player  
Ira : 5/6/2018 7:27 am : link
If they're both going to play de, McIntosh will get some penetration of pass plays. IMO, Hill will only be a 2 down player, though he is stouter against the run.
too early to place limits  
bc4life : 5/6/2018 7:32 am : link
on what he might do. work ethic, always trying to get better. grinder - and Bettcher is very creative. some interesting pieces on this line.

If he plays DE, which I'm guessing might be his best position - wonder if he could play a little lighter without losing too much strength. 3 cone drill - wow, really athletic.
Hill looks like a great addition  
ZogZerg : 5/6/2018 7:40 am : link
Our D line is going to be stout against the run this year! Giants will be rotating players, keeping them fresh.
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idiotsavant : 5/6/2018 8:50 am : link
Hill = Tomlinson

Macintosh = Mauro

Harrison > R. Thomas and the gang of bigs

It's definitely a good problem to have even if this is the minimum outcome.

There is the chance that any of the four players listed in the first two lines will break out this year and in any case, rotation has been needed.

As for who lines up where:

IMO you will see a crazy blend including the much smaller 4/3 DE types (Wynn etc) and the OLBs even as well. Or heavy front 3 (hill, Tomlinson, Harrison) , or super heavy 2 (if an additional true nose makes the roster, not sure any of current group beyond Harrison are in, meaning those well over 320 as a subset) Just a crazy blend.
RE: I get the feeling  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 5/6/2018 8:56 am : link
In comment 13955674 Jay on the Island said:
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that B.J. Hill is going to be similar to Barry Cofield.


The actual comp that Mayock made when Hill was drafted was Lival, so even better.
But my base 3 for first and ten at the 20  
idiotsavant : 5/6/2018 8:58 am : link
After kick off would be

Tomlinson/Harrison/Hill

Then you have 1,000s of variations for third down or long D,D including use of a wide variety of types on front 3, too many to list.

I would see Macintosh. Mauro and even lighter Wynn, etc as situational given the size of today's guards. That said, run blitzing olbs can certainly create havoc even with a smallish but quick 288lb 3/4 de rushing next to them.
RE: ...  
M.S. : 5/6/2018 8:59 am : link
In comment 13955660 Eric from BBI said:
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Hes going to be one of the grinders on that team, Doeren said. He will establish culture with work ethic, for sure. He will not be afraid to get up and talk in front of the team and say what needs to be said. He is not a cheerleader by any means, but he is a very aware person and understands what good culture is and what bad culture is, and hell be able to address situations when he feels like it is time to do it. He will be a positive impact on other people. Hes a very Christian young man that has his life together off the field, and he cares about his teammates and how theyre acting.

Great quote, but frankly I don't care if the guy is Christian, Moselm, Jewish or or Hindu Vaishnavas... so long as he can play, he's the right religion for me.
From what I gather the rep on hill  
idiotsavant : 5/6/2018 9:05 am : link
Is a 'quick for his power one gapper who can garner the attention of two ols - if he gets into a gap.'

But not an every down two gapper by any means.

So, not Linval. Not a classic nose by any means but could line up near zero and rush just one side, sure, as opposed to holding up both.

More like a Tomlinson 2.0.

Which is good also.
Use to play RB and he ran track  
ZogZerg : 5/6/2018 9:35 am : link
The guy is an athlete.
RE: RE: I get the feeling  
Klaatu : 5/6/2018 10:16 am : link
In comment 13955916 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13955674 Jay on the Island said:


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that B.J. Hill is going to be similar to Barry Cofield.



The actual comp that Mayock made when Hill was drafted was Lival, so even better.


I don't know...if Hill in going to play the 5-tech for us most of the time, I figure a more accurate comp would be Corey Liuget.
Funny how someone  
XBRONX : 5/6/2018 10:57 am : link
can watch a player and come our with a very different critique than someone else. The coaching staff loves his strength but NFL profile knocks his strength. Somebody is blind.
Here's a video of his draft day  
Anakim : 5/6/2018 12:14 pm : link
Seems like a nice kid
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Nice find Anakim  
Jay in Toronto : 5/6/2018 12:57 pm : link
Very sweet.

Big Giants indeed!
Good  
ChicagoMarty : 5/6/2018 1:12 pm : link
stuff!
I like the fact that  
Bluesbreaker : 5/6/2018 1:13 pm : link
with Dalvin Thomlinson BJ Hill McIntosh we have an influx of youth . Hungry players . Getting younger and better in the trenches . Hill will do a lot of the dirty work inside
RE: RE: I get the feeling  
Jay on the Island : 5/6/2018 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13955816 short lease said:
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In comment 13955674 Jay on the Island said:


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that B.J. Hill is going to be similar to Barry Cofield.



Is that a good thing ... or a bad thing Jay? IIRC, Cofield was a solid player ... not great though?

That was a compliment. Cofield was a steal in the 4th and a very underrated player.
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