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Interesting Sterling Shepard stats.....

sxdxca : 5/5/2018 6:19 pm
In 2017 Shepard played in only 11 games and put up 731 yards.

That averages out to about 66 yards per game.

If he were to have played a full 16 game schedule , that would have given him an additional 330 yards.

If we were to have added those yards to his numbers , means he would have put up a 1,000 yard recieving season.

Seems like a nice addition to our wr corps..

Just wanted to share...
I think he's a very solid player  
BestFeature : 5/5/2018 6:27 pm : link
But when he was drafted he had unreal hype and I think it caused some people to sour on him a little when he didn't become Victor Cruz 2.0 as some thought he might be. Very good player, doesn't have the explosiveness we were hoping for.
Love Shepard ....  
short lease : 5/5/2018 6:33 pm : link
When the OL starts to give the QB more time this Offense is going to be dangerous.

How long will it take though? Will Eli still be playing when it happens?

I really do like Shepard  
Jay on the Island : 5/5/2018 7:01 pm : link
but he is more of a possession slot WR. When he was drafted he was hyped up as the next Giants Steve Smith. I was hoping for more but he is still a solid player.
Thinking/hoping Shepard will really prove himself this year  
Ben in Tampa : 5/5/2018 7:48 pm : link
In an offense where OBJ, EE and Barkley will be the ďnamesĒ and the pressure off, Shepard could Be a very succesful, move the chains, option. I think he is a great 4th weapon.
OBJ - 1500  
est1986 : 5/5/2018 10:15 pm : link
Shepard - 1000
Engram - 1000
Saquon - 500

Eli is going to throw for about 4,500 yards this year
He made some  
Phil in LA : 5/5/2018 10:17 pm : link
great plays this year and it's too bad he got hurt because he was improving.
SS  
Doomster : 5/5/2018 10:33 pm : link
had a respectable rookie season......

But he has to stay on the field, he has to make the tough catches, and take that next step up.....with OBj out, he was just an average WR.....
Can't wait until your next brain cramp falls upon us  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/5/2018 10:48 pm : link
Putting up <990 yards as the nominal #1 receiver isn't particularly exciting. Shepard has the makings of a nice complementary piece, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

I'm not even sure what the point of this thread is - did you think that we didn't know who Shepard was? Or do you just have a pathological need to start a thread per day?
Also...  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/5/2018 10:50 pm : link
...I'm not sure if you know what "addition" means. Shepard is already part of our WR corps.
RE: Can't wait until your next brain cramp falls upon us  
sxdxca : 5/5/2018 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13955811 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Putting up <990 yards as the nominal #1 receiver isn't particularly exciting. Shepard has the makings of a nice complementary piece, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

I'm not even sure what the point of this thread is - did you think that we didn't know who Shepard was? Or do you just have a pathological need to start a thread per day?


Gatorade , I feel sorry for you , I really do.

I mean , if you had an IQ above 70 maybe you would have figured out exactly what my post was bringing out.

But that was probably too hard for you.

Secondly , the word "addition" is defined as "anyone or anything added"

So yes , since 2016 when he was drafted , Shepard has been a nice addition to this team.

I hope you have a nice night...

Oh and one more thing, don't think too hard we don't want you burning up too many brain cells , since we know you don't have a whole lot to spare.

Take care big guy

RE: Also...  
giantsFC : 5/6/2018 1:21 am : link
In comment 13955814 Gatorade Dunk said:
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...I'm not sure if you know what "addition" means. Shepard is already part of our WR corps.


You must be a fun drunk. I feel bad for your kids and wife. Go sober up.
RE: RE: Can't wait until your next brain cramp falls upon us  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/6/2018 6:49 am : link
In comment 13955829 sxdxca said:
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In comment 13955811 Gatorade Dunk said:


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Putting up <990 yards as the nominal #1 receiver isn't particularly exciting. Shepard has the makings of a nice complementary piece, but let's pump the brakes a bit.

I'm not even sure what the point of this thread is - did you think that we didn't know who Shepard was? Or do you just have a pathological need to start a thread per day?



Gatorade , I feel sorry for you , I really do.

I mean , if you had an IQ above 70 maybe you would have figured out exactly what my post was bringing out.

But that was probably too hard for you.

Secondly , the word "addition" is defined as "anyone or anything added"

So yes , since 2016 when he was drafted , Shepard has been a nice addition to this team.

I hope you have a nice night...

Oh and one more thing, don't think too hard we don't want you burning up too many brain cells , since we know you don't have a whole lot to spare.

Take care big guy

Right, I'm the one lacking IQ and brain cells, while you trotted out daily Davis Webb threads leading up to the draft, recently tried to mount a case in defense of Geno Smith, never post on any threads other than your own streams of consciousness, and can't figure out proper comma usage.

Nice try, little man.
RE: RE: Also...  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/6/2018 6:49 am : link
In comment 13955850 giantsFC said:
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In comment 13955814 Gatorade Dunk said:


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...I'm not sure if you know what "addition" means. Shepard is already part of our WR corps.



You must be a fun drunk. I feel bad for your kids and wife. Go sober up.

Stay classy.
Shepard was 19 th in ypg  
hassan : 5/6/2018 8:50 am : link
And is a quality receiver. There are a lot of notions about him being disappointing as he wasnít Beckham or Cruz. Itís mostly bunk. Some of you guys expect an all star at every position.

He may be best in the slot but can play outside as well.
Shepard is a good player  
Mike from Ohio : 5/6/2018 9:11 am : link
Not every position on the field is going to be a game breaker. He is steady and reliable which is good when you already have a game breaking WR and possibly TE.

I think the "disappointment" come from some fans setting unrealistic expectations for every player we draft. Just go up a couple of threads and you will see discussion about how Lorenzo Carter compares favorably to several first round picks from years past. He is a 3rd round pick, but there will be people who are disappointed in him if he doesn't put up 12 sacks this year because they already believe he is some sort of top shelf pass rusher every other team simply overlooked for some weird reason.

Great players come out of later rounds every draft, and it's cool to be high on incoming rookies. But it also helps to remember guys get passed over for a couple rounds in the draft for a reason. Hope they become stars but realize that those expectations are not completely realistic.
RE: Shepard is a good player  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/6/2018 9:26 am : link
In comment 13955928 Mike from Ohio said:
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Not every position on the field is going to be a game breaker. He is steady and reliable which is good when you already have a game breaking WR and possibly TE.

I think the "disappointment" come from some fans setting unrealistic expectations for every player we draft. Just go up a couple of threads and you will see discussion about how Lorenzo Carter compares favorably to several first round picks from years past. He is a 3rd round pick, but there will be people who are disappointed in him if he doesn't put up 12 sacks this year because they already believe he is some sort of top shelf pass rusher every other team simply overlooked for some weird reason.

Great players come out of later rounds every draft, and it's cool to be high on incoming rookies. But it also helps to remember guys get passed over for a couple rounds in the draft for a reason. Hope they become stars but realize that those expectations are not completely realistic.


Shepherd is an excellent #2 and complementary slot receiver to Odell. The issue becomes when you lose Odell because Sterling is not an ideal #1 or downfield threat.
RE: RE: Shepard is a good player  
crick n NC : 5/6/2018 9:31 am : link
In comment 13955929 Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx said:
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In comment 13955928 Mike from Ohio said:


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Not every position on the field is going to be a game breaker. He is steady and reliable which is good when you already have a game breaking WR and possibly TE.

I think the "disappointment" come from some fans setting unrealistic expectations for every player we draft. Just go up a couple of threads and you will see discussion about how Lorenzo Carter compares favorably to several first round picks from years past. He is a 3rd round pick, but there will be people who are disappointed in him if he doesn't put up 12 sacks this year because they already believe he is some sort of top shelf pass rusher every other team simply overlooked for some weird reason.

Great players come out of later rounds every draft, and it's cool to be high on incoming rookies. But it also helps to remember guys get passed over for a couple rounds in the draft for a reason. Hope they become stars but realize that those expectations are not completely realistic.



Shepherd is an excellent #2 and complementary slot receiver to Odell. The issue becomes when you lose Odell because Sterling is not an ideal #1 or downfield threat.


That is where a good coach from an X's and O's point comes in. A good coach can scheme things differently to at least in some way minimalize the impact of losing such a player
He is exactly what we thought we were getting  
Mike from Ohio : 5/6/2018 9:34 am : link
Some guys fall into the second round because they have elite talent but some part of their game that needs to be improved. Shepard is a guy who is a very good receiver and plays a complete game. He was there in the second because he doesn't have the elite speed/quickness or size of guys who typically go in the first. That is not a knock on him at all. If he continues to play like he has he was well worth the pick.
I'm curious to see ,  
PEEJ : 5/6/2018 9:38 am : link
if he's "unleashed" in a new scheme.
Big fan of Shepard. Does a lot of good things  
Jimmy Googs : 5/6/2018 9:42 am : link
my only comment after his first year was he needs to keep his feet under him more, which could lead to bigger plays. Saw some improvement on that in year 2...

Does he have room to grow into Steve Smith?  
BestFeature : 5/6/2018 9:50 am : link
Giants version. I think that was the one player he was compared to that was reasonable but some felt he didn't reach that potential, at least yet.
Steve smith  
hassan : 5/6/2018 10:11 am : link
Did not have the first two years Shepard had short his super bowl contribution. Steve smith only had one monster year for nyg. I would rather Shepard not have that kind of stat line but rather steadier numbers over a longer period.

Steve smith produced a lot of stats in 09 as the Giants were in flux at position. Bad news if Giants need a guy like Shepard to match that production because it means Barkley and Odell and even engram are injured.
Shep  
crick n NC : 5/6/2018 10:21 am : link
Just needs to stress the defense horizontally. We have legimate vertical threats in Beckham and engram.
RE: RE: RE: Also...  
giantsFC : 5/6/2018 11:11 am : link
In comment 13955864 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Stay classy.


Iím not the one initiating the unwarranted insults to postersí threads around here. The irony.
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Gatorade Dunk : 5/6/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 13955989 giantsFC said:
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In comment 13955864 Gatorade Dunk said:


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Stay classy.



Iím not the one initiating the unwarranted insults to postersí threads around here. The irony.

You're also obviously not aware of the OP's posting history. But you took shots at my family, which I did not do toward the OP or you, so just keep that in mind.
RE: Steve smith  
Klaatu : 5/6/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 13955946 hassan said:
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Did not have the first two years Shepard had short his super bowl contribution. Steve smith only had one monster year for nyg. I would rather Shepard not have that kind of stat line but rather steadier numbers over a longer period.

Steve smith produced a lot of stats in 09 as the Giants were in flux at position. Bad news if Giants need a guy like Shepard to match that production because it means Barkley and Odell and even engram are injured.


Steve Smith missed eleven regular season games in his first year with a back injury. No surprise he didn't put up big numbers.

In 2008, not only was he playing alongside Plax and Toomer, but in addition to the Giants running the shit out of the ball with Jacobs and Ward, Ward also caught 41 passes. Again, no surprise that Smith didn't put up big numbers.

In 2009, with the losses of both Plax and Toomer, Smith became much more of a focal point for the offense, and then he did put up big numbers.
Also, SS is not  
Doomster : 5/6/2018 12:18 pm : link
the route runner Smith was...
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sxdxca : 5/6/2018 12:49 pm : link
In comment 13955993 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13955864 Gatorade Dunk said:


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Stay classy.



Iím not the one initiating the unwarranted insults to postersí threads around here. The irony.


You're also obviously not aware of the OP's posting history. But you took shots at my family, which I did not do toward the OP or you, so just keep that in mind.


Gatorade , once again I feel sorry for you.

You attack me because you couldn't figure out why I posted the statistics on Shepard.

Then get all bent out of shape when people other than myself start calling you out for it , and start giving it back to you.

Furthermore when it comes to Davis Webb , who are you to tell me , or anyone else on this board what we can or cannot talk about?

It seems to me you may have some controlling issues.

I would encourage you to possibly get some therapy , take some classes to help improve your IQ , so that you will be able to have a healthy conversation with other people.

And then you won't have to worry about trying to control what other people post or talk about.

Trust me it will help you here , and in the real world
I loved Steve smith  
djm : 5/6/2018 1:01 pm : link
Shepard looks to be better. His ypc improved by 2 yards from year one to year two. Heís a nice and important piece. His ypc in 2017 was better than Steve smithís best and smith played in a functional offense.
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giantsFC : 5/6/2018 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13955993 Gatorade Dunk said:
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You're also obviously not aware of the OP's posting history. But you took shots at my family, which I did not do toward the OP or you, so just keep that in mind.


Iíve seen you and the same other handle names insulting posters bc of their comments and threads over and over. One gets tired of seeing it happen.
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Gatorade Dunk : 5/6/2018 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13956070 giantsFC said:
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You're also obviously not aware of the OP's posting history. But you took shots at my family, which I did not do toward the OP or you, so just keep that in mind.



Iíve seen you and the same other handle names insulting posters bc of their comments and threads over and over. One gets tired of seeing it happen.

I am one person and one handle. You decided to include my family. You can go choke on a box of rocks.
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Gatorade Dunk : 5/6/2018 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13956046 sxdxca said:
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In comment 13955989 giantsFC said:


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In comment 13955864 Gatorade Dunk said:


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Stay classy.



Iím not the one initiating the unwarranted insults to postersí threads around here. The irony.


You're also obviously not aware of the OP's posting history. But you took shots at my family, which I did not do toward the OP or you, so just keep that in mind.



Gatorade , once again I feel sorry for you.

You attack me because you couldn't figure out why I posted the statistics on Shepard.

Then get all bent out of shape when people other than myself start calling you out for it , and start giving it back to you.

Furthermore when it comes to Davis Webb , who are you to tell me , or anyone else on this board what we can or cannot talk about?

It seems to me you may have some controlling issues.

I would encourage you to possibly get some therapy , take some classes to help improve your IQ , so that you will be able to have a healthy conversation with other people.

And then you won't have to worry about trying to control what other people post or talk about.

Trust me it will help you here , and in the real world

Best of luck to you. I agree that we're not in the same IQ stratosphere, but suspect that you don't realize which end of the spectrum in which we each reside.
RE: He is exactly what we thought we were getting  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/6/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 13955932 Mike from Ohio said:
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Some guys fall into the second round because they have elite talent but some part of their game that needs to be improved. Shepard is a guy who is a very good receiver and plays a complete game. He was there in the second because he doesn't have the elite speed/quickness or size of guys who typically go in the first. That is not a knock on him at all. If he continues to play like he has he was well worth the pick.


Smilar to SS. Slow and smol. But has a lot between the ears. I dsliked the SS signing at the time XD
Whatever the reasons  
hassan : 5/6/2018 11:10 pm : link
Steve smith was not nearly as productive as Shepard early in his career. If Shepard had the opportunity smith had in 09 he would do as well if not better.

As pointed out Shepard is better and while no burner heís faster than Smith and can take balls to the house. Smith never had that ability. Smith may have been a slicker route runner but Shepard is a better athlete-significantly so.
RE: Whatever the reasons  
Klaatu : 5/7/2018 12:20 pm : link
In comment 13956474 hassan said:
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Steve smith was not nearly as productive as Shepard early in his career. If Shepard had the opportunity smith had in 09 he would do as well if not better.

As pointed out Shepard is better and while no burner heís faster than Smith and can take balls to the house. Smith never had that ability. Smith may have been a slicker route runner but Shepard is a better athlete-significantly so.


Whatever the reasons?

Sure...it's not like missing 70% of the regular season in his rookie year had any bearing on Smith, statistically, and certainly playing in a heavily run-oriented offense in his second year, where he was essentially the third receiving option didn't, either.

Posters like you make me appreciate FMiC, Joey, and chopperhatch more and more each day.

Shepard may be a marginally better athlete - the operative word being "marginally" - but feel free to call me when he has a season that comes close to matching Smith's 2009.
Klaatu  
hassan : 5/8/2018 11:00 am : link
seriously with your post? You don't seem to understand some of my points so I'll elaborate.

Smith missed a significant amount of time but produced 250 yards vs Shepard producing well over 700 yards. So his per game stats are probably a wash.

Shepard did so in what was a backwards offensive philosophy with Macadoo on a terrible offense.

Smith did have a very productive 2009 but this was very clearly a result of being the only established receiver on that team. Shepard will never have this opportunity as a player or we should hope not.

Marginally more athletic? Smith could not outrun anyone. A great route runner but zero burst and 'ups', and I cant ever remember him making catches like Shepard did against Dallas in 2016 in his debut or his catch and runs against Philadelphia in 2017. Unless you would like to point out athletic catches Smith made.

So the whole point of the OP and some of the follow ups-people hoping that Shepard would turn out like Smith seems silly as a notion as he is already comparably productive in his per game stats as Smith was at this point in his career. Shepard was 19th in ypg last year-this is very similar to Steve Smith ypg production during 2009-10 when he was in his prime for NYG.

And with regards to your call out, seems incredibly lame and petty, given the drivel I've seen posted here. Make your point with facts and context.

In fact I stand corrected  
hassan : 5/8/2018 11:12 am : link
Smith had 63 yards for the year his rookie season. So no comparison to Shepard. But I'll grant its not a fair comparison-he had no targets.

Smith in 2012 received almost 10 targets a game to produce 76 ypg in his peak season. Shepard produced 10 yards less per game last year on more that 2 less targets per game.

And this was on a bad offense vs a very functional one in 2009.
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giantsFC : 5/8/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13956135 Gatorade Dunk said:
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I am one person and one handle. You decided to include my family. You can go choke on a box of rocks.


truth hurts. stop trolling.
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Gatorade Dunk : 5/8/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13958142 giantsFC said:
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In comment 13956135 Gatorade Dunk said:


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I am one person and one handle. You decided to include my family. You can go choke on a box of rocks.



truth hurts. stop trolling.

You've been here all of three months. Give it a rest.
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