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Greg from LI : 5/7/2018 9:30 am
Time to recharge the batteries a bit before the big showdown at home with the scum.

Been very nice to see Neil Walker finally start producing (.364/.611/.455 in the last five games). It's not easy to be so patient when you're a veteran who is struggling to get the bat going, but Walker's been doing it - 6 BB in 18 PAs.

Injuries: Bird will make his first appearance at extended spring training today. Kahnle is scheduled to throw a bullpen session lated this week. Warren is throwing off flat ground, but has not yet thrown off a mound. Drury is in Trenton now because of a Scranton road trip - Yanks want to keep him close to NYC in case he's needed. Went 2-3 last night with a homer and a walk. There isn't any rush to get him back just yet, but it will be interesting to see what happens if Andujar continues to scuffle after his hot start (.224/.240/.306 over the past two weeks, 13 Ks in only 50 PAs and just 1 BB).

Finally, there isn't much more to be said about Gleyber that hasn't already been said, so I'll just say the same thing again - wow.
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RE: yeah, David  
Greg from LI : 5/7/2018 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13956809 Victor in CT said:
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I think it's broken" routine starts.


German  
Marty866b : 5/7/2018 12:01 pm : link
has good stuff but his change up is fantastic. He can consistently throw it for strikes and had the Indians completely fooled by it all game yesterday.
Mitch Moreland is hitting .347/.407/.653  
Greg from LI : 5/7/2018 12:02 pm : link
Mitch.

Moreland.

Every single year the Sawx have some random bag of shit hitting like Lou Gehrig for a while. It's annoying.
RE: RE: yeah, David  
Victor in CT : 5/7/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13956832 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13956809 Victor in CT said:


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I think it's broken" routine starts.





NICE!
RE: Walker signed late  
mfsd : 5/7/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13956610 Kyle in NY said:
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and didn't get much of a spring training. It's entirely possible he just needed that first month to knock the rust off. His track record is solid.

2B is Torres now but having Walker off the bench able to play multiple positions will be valuable. I like Austin, but Walker is a more useful bench piece. Austin may go down when Drury comes back.


There was a good article in the Athletic recently about how several of the guys who signed late in spring training were off to slow starts (not all - JD Martinez and Hosmer were hitting out of the gate)...but I think you’re right that it’s just taken Walker a little extra time to find his groove.

The last several game, you can really tell he’s seeing the ball well. Swinging only at good pitches. Proving to be a dependable utility guy

Someone (Drury, Walker, Austin, Andujar) is going to get pushed down to the minors or traded, and we’ll debate the wisdom of the decision when it happens, but all this depth should prove valuable over the season.

Bird will take someone’s spot when he’s ready, and Frazier will push for time soon too. Ellsbury, may as well euthanize him like a horse

As for Gleyber, as others have said...wow.
RE: RE: Walker signed late  
Greg from LI : 5/7/2018 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13956896 mfsd said:
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Ellsbury, may as well euthanize him like a horse


You've inspired me - from now on I'm calling Ellsbury Ol' Yeller.
RE: RE: RE: Walker signed late  
Victor in CT : 5/7/2018 12:38 pm : link
In comment 13956902 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13956896 mfsd said:


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Ellsbury, may as well euthanize him like a horse



You've inspired me - from now on I'm calling Ellsbury Ol' Yeller.


Can't call him "Ruffian". Doesn't really fit. ;-)
RE: RE: Walker signed late  
bceagle05 : 5/7/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13956896 mfsd said:
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Ellsbury, may as well euthanize him like a horse


Best idea I've ever heard regarding Ellsbury. God, what a brutal contract. In the future, "albatross contracts" will be referred to as "Ellsbury contracts."
sadly, there's no more Ned Colletti to pawn him off on, either  
Greg from LI : 5/7/2018 12:43 pm : link
the way the Sawx somehow got the Dodgers to take on the albatross contracts of Carl Crawford, Adrian Gonzalez, AND Josh Beckett. That was some 9th level Jedi mind trick stuff there.
RE: sadly, there's no more Ned Colletti to pawn him off on, either  
mfsd : 5/7/2018 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13956915 Greg from LI said:
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the way the Sawx somehow got the Dodgers to take on the albatross contracts of Carl Crawford, Adrian Gonzalez, AND Josh Beckett. That was some 9th level Jedi mind trick stuff there.


Heh - that one still pisses me off
RE: Yeah German might run with this opportunity  
The 12th Man : 5/7/2018 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13956756 Kyle in NY said:
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Everything he throws moves, he showed three quality pitches yesterday (loved his feel for his changeup), and he got a lot of swings and misses. Very interested to see his next few starts/


With all the talk of Romine being Gray's personal catcher it was nice to see Sanchez behind the dish for the 6 no-hit innings that German threw. I no Sanchez has to do a better job with the wild pitches and passed balls, but I really think he is learning to call a better game.
Sanchez has a significantly better ERA  
wigs in nyc : 5/7/2018 1:34 pm : link
than does Romine (or rather, pitchers have a better ERA when throwing to Sanchez.)

But all that aside, it seems like it is a matter of taste for Gray. If it works, let it roll.
Sanchez needs to move his body rather than just reach. Otherwise, he  
Victor in CT : 5/7/2018 1:35 pm : link
calls a good game and has a cannon for an arm. I think it was bush of Gray to call him out like that.

I'm more worried that he's below the Mendoza line again.
RE: Sanchez needs to move his body rather than just reach. Otherwise, he  
The 12th Man : 5/7/2018 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13956990 Victor in CT said:
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calls a good game and has a cannon for an arm. I think it was bush of Gray to call him out like that.

I'm more worried that he's below the Mendoza line again.


Your catcher should get every 5 day off any way to keep him fresh in a 162 game season means he gets 32 days off let him DH 10 of those games and he plays over 140 games a year. Let Gray work himself out. Gary's response about Gray and his personal catcher was awesome. Team 1st plain and simple.
This might be the most well-deserved day off  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/7/2018 1:58 pm : link
in sports that I can remember. 16-2 on that hellish 18 game in 18 days run. Jesus. I hope these guys sleep and get room service all day today. Can't be said enough how much they deserve to take it easy today. I love this team!
I don't remember a stretch of regular season ball I've enjoyed so much  
Ryan in Albany : 5/7/2018 2:08 pm : link
as this one right here. Team has HEART.

And the fact that Severino is starting the first game of the Boston series is more icing on this magnificent cake.
OP and those critical of Andujar's offense the last two weeks  
Dave in Buffalo : 5/7/2018 2:50 pm : link
Other than Glayber, who has been hitting well the last two weeks? They've faced a lot of good to excellent pitching recently. Even Didi has dropped off recently. I suspect Andujar's dropoff isn't any different than the rest of the team. He's shown a lot both in spring and during his time up with the big club. The concern over Andujar, from what I've read, is that his ability to make contact hasn't translated to the bigs. He was a high contact guy throughout the minors but has been too aggressive in the majors. We know he can hit and is a high contact guy in the minors. The only way for him to translate that to the majors at this point is to face major league pitching. Unless he becomes a liability I don't him being sent down.
RE: OP and those critical of Andujar's offense the last two weeks  
Victor in CT : 5/7/2018 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13957103 Dave in Buffalo said:
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Other than Glayber, who has been hitting well the last two weeks? They've faced a lot of good to excellent pitching recently. Even Didi has dropped off recently. I suspect Andujar's dropoff isn't any different than the rest of the team. He's shown a lot both in spring and during his time up with the big club. The concern over Andujar, from what I've read, is that his ability to make contact hasn't translated to the bigs. He was a high contact guy throughout the minors but has been too aggressive in the majors. We know he can hit and is a high contact guy in the minors. The only way for him to translate that to the majors at this point is to face major league pitching. Unless he becomes a liability I don't him being sent down.


Agree. Well put.
Trenton comes to Richmond this weekend...  
Dunedin81 : 5/7/2018 3:13 pm : link
Excited to see some of these kids in person. Unfortunately (for these purposes alone) Sheffield was promoted but it'll still be a good time.
I don't think Andujar deserves to be sent down either...  
Dunedin81 : 5/7/2018 3:15 pm : link
but Drury has only been playing 3B in his minor league rehab games, that's his likely destination unless Andujar absolutely forces the issue. They're not in any rush, but Drury's rehab can't last forever.
What I find most amazing  
Don Draper : 5/7/2018 3:39 pm : link
is that they are winning with so few players meeting expectations.

Stanton has been disappointing
Gardy has been disappointing
Hicks has been disappointing
Walker has been disappointing
Tyler Wade was disappointing until his demotion

Judge has been OK (relative to expectations)
Sanchez isn't a .200 hitter
Did has been great

So, one regular position player has consistently exceeded expectations. Andujar had an impressive streak, though he has cooled off, and Torres has been strong, so maybe he counts, too. And Tyler Austin has been good in his platoon role.

Bird hasn't played a single game
Warren and Kahnle, both key bullpen pieces, have been out
Seems that nobody has seen what a fully healthy Drury can do, so he may be a big contributor -- the guy was decent with migraines and double-vision, so I imagine his potential is greater now that those issues have been addressed.

Mostly, this streak has been based on excellent starting pitching and timely hitting; the starting pitching likely will regress a little, but I hope the bats and a reinforced bullpen (with players returning from injury) to more than make up for that. Much fun!
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Reports that the Tigers will at least listen on Fulmer again.  
bceagle05 : 5/7/2018 4:41 pm : link
They might as well. If the Yankees see Sheffield as a #2 guy behind Sevy, I doubt they jump into this fray. A good young pitcher under team control for several years will cost a fortune - Sheffield, Frazier and then some.
RE: RE: Yeah German might run with this opportunity  
Milton : 5/7/2018 4:54 pm : link
In comment 13956983 The 12th Man said:
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With all the talk of Romine being Gray's personal catcher it was nice to see Sanchez behind the dish for the 6 no-hit innings that German threw. I know Sanchez has to do a better job with the wild pitches and passed balls, but I really think he is learning to call a better game.
Last year it was Tanaka and Romine that they were calling a pair (although the statistics didn't agree). It reminds me of the days of "Carlton's Catcher"...
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Lefty and Tim were batterymates with the St. Louis Cardinals before enjoying notoriety with the Phillies.

As a rookie, Carlton once displayed his mindset to McCarver.

"I was shaving after a game when I realized somebody was standing behind me," recalls McCarver. "It was Steve, this tall skinny kid with a big Adam's apple. He looked me in the eye and said, 'You should call more breaking pitches.' I lost it. 'Who do you think you are telling me how to call a game?'"

When Carlton was acquired from the Cardinals in a trade in 1972, he was reunited with McCarver, but only for a short time. McCarver was traded to Montreal that June 14 for another catcher, John Bateman.

Fast forward to 1975. When McCarver was released by the Boston Red Sox, general manager Paul Owens brought him back to Philadelphia. At 35, he evolved into "Carlton's catcher."

Was it the case that Carlton was more comfortable throwing to McCarver?

"No, not really," says McCarver. "It was a difference of opinion with many people. After having faced Lefty and having talked to hitters, I knew the slider was his best pitch. Others felt he should throw more fastballs, but the hitters told me the slider was the killer. If you recall, a lot of hitters would shake their heads after swinging at that pitch."

From 1976 through most of '79, McCarver was in the lineup when Carlton started. At one point, McCarver caught 90 consecutive Carlton starts. Lefty's record during that stretch: 48-26. Overall with the Phillies, Carlton was 81-45 with McCarver behind the plate.

While McCarver spurred Carlton, Lefty seemed to spur Tim's bat. For his Phillies career, McCarver hit .272, with 26 homers and 168 RBIs. While catching Carlton: .306, 10 homers and 66 RBIs.
p.s.--Romine's OBP is a very respectable .375, so he hasn't (yet) been a liability at the plate.
RE: Reports that the Tigers will at least listen on Fulmer again.  
rich in DC : 5/7/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 13957226 bceagle05 said:
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They might as well. If the Yankees see Sheffield as a #2 guy behind Sevy, I doubt they jump into this fray. A good young pitcher under team control for several years will cost a fortune - Sheffield, Frazier and then some.


I don't understand the fascination with Fulmer. He really has NOT been very good. He gives up a LOT of hits, doesn't strike out many, and already has had issues with his pitching arm. All of those factors scream to stay FAR away.

Domingo German is better than Fulmer right now- MUCH better stuff and younger. Why overpay for a guy just because fans recognize the name?
German  
Phil in LA : 5/7/2018 5:05 pm : link
Became the first pitcher in history to throw 6 no hit 9K innings in his first career start. And he was the Yanks #17 prospect. Why anyone thinks we need to trade for “name” pitching is beyond me. Outs are outs and we have lots of guys who can get them.
I don't want to trade for him either  
bceagle05 : 5/7/2018 5:13 pm : link
but Cashman already made offers for Fulmer and Archer over the winter, so he certainly felt it was worth exploring.
that Walker cat stinks...  
BCD : 5/7/2018 5:14 pm : link
hell I can get up there and look pretty....what a waste!!!! just one hit...one freakin hit...anything!!!!!!! when pitcher see him they think easy out....then say afterward that was easier then I thought.
The interest in Fullmer  
Kyle in NY : 5/7/2018 5:26 pm : link
is due to 3.5 more seasons of team control for an extreme ground ball pitcher with excellent control. 2 walks per 9, and only 32 HR allowed in 359 innings pitched in his career. Pretty good in this current hitting environment. Tanaka gave up 35 last season alone. Just as a point of reference, because I think Tanaka is fantastic.

I think Rich has a fair point. He doesn't really miss bats. But he has 2 of the 3 true outcomes all set. The fact that he's already dealt with injuries is far more concerning. So that's my hesitation.

But no decisions need to be made right now. Let's see what German can do (I'm very optimistic) and Sheffield is looming as well.
I  
mitch300 : 5/7/2018 5:56 pm : link
Also think Montgomery has made improvements this season before he was injured.
RE: that Walker cat stinks...  
section125 : 5/7/2018 6:09 pm : link
In comment 13957265 BCD said:
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hell I can get up there and look pretty....what a waste!!!! just one hit...one freakin hit...anything!!!!!!! when pitcher see him they think easy out....then say afterward that was easier then I thought.


This is the in the running for the most incoherent post of the day....
The problem with a Tigers trade...  
Milton : 5/7/2018 6:12 pm : link
Is that their farm is deep where the Yankees farm is deep: right handed pitching. So they would likely target the guys the Yankees are most set on keeping (Sheffield, Florial, Andjujar). But a deal featuring Frazier, Adams, and one or two second tier prospects (Acevedo, Tate, Estrada, McKinney) wouldn't be too steep a price.

RE: RE: Reports that the Tigers will at least listen on Fulmer again.  
Milton : 5/7/2018 6:17 pm : link
In comment 13957243 rich in DC said:
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Domingo German is better than Fulmer right now- MUCH better stuff and younger.
Fulmer is younger than German.
German has already had TJS  
Phil in LA : 5/7/2018 6:27 pm : link
while Fulmer is just a little while away from him.
RE: Trenton comes to Richmond this weekend...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/7/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13957130 Dunedin81 said:
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Excited to see some of these kids in person. Unfortunately (for these purposes alone) Sheffield was promoted but it'll still be a good time.


With all the graduations to the bigs, we don't have close to the amount of stud prospects in minors that we had last year. In fact, Trenton doesn't have one top hitting prospect. There won't be one guy in the line-uop you really care to see. So hopefully Tate, Acevedo, and Johnny Lasagna pitch this weekend for you.
Austin isn't going down when Drury comes back...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/7/2018 7:55 pm : link
It will be Andujar, unless he really heats up again. They want Andujar to play every day at 3B, whether that is up in the bigs or at AAA. Austin probably goes when Bird comes back, unless they keep his big bat instead of the 8th bullpen arm. But again, you do want the guy to play. And if Torres has 2B locked down every day. That means Walker will be spelling Bird at 1B, and their won't really be any at bats for him. Too bad Austin can't play LF and only plays RF. He would be a good option in LF against lefties when you want to sit Gardy.
RE: RE: that Walker cat stinks...  
mfsd : 5/7/2018 8:14 pm : link
In comment 13957302 section125 said:
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In comment 13957265 BCD said:


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hell I can get up there and look pretty....what a waste!!!! just one hit...one freakin hit...anything!!!!!!! when pitcher see him they think easy out....then say afterward that was easier then I thought.



This is the in the running for the most incoherent post of the day....


Lol seriously. Yanks are playing so well, the random trolls that pop up are running out of material
RE: German  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/7/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13957251 Phil in LA said:
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Became the first pitcher in history to throw 6 no hit 9K innings in his first career start. And he was the Yanks #17 prospect. Why anyone thinks we need to trade for “name” pitching is beyond me. Outs are outs and we have lots of guys who can get them.
Are you certain of that ? In the 80's I remember a Yankees September call up who got a spot start as did German. He was only supposed to pitch 3 or 4 innings but he took a no hitter into the 7th. I can't think of his name, but he never pitched that well again.
RE: RE: German  
rich in DC : 5/7/2018 8:48 pm : link
In comment 13957394 Ron from Ninerland said:
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In comment 13957251 Phil in LA said:


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Became the first pitcher in history to throw 6 no hit 9K innings in his first career start. And he was the Yanks #17 prospect. Why anyone thinks we need to trade for “name” pitching is beyond me. Outs are outs and we have lots of guys who can get them.

Are you certain of that ? In the 80's I remember a Yankees September call up who got a spot start as did German. He was only supposed to pitch 3 or 4 innings but he took a no hitter into the 7th. I can't think of his name, but he never pitched that well again.


Dave Eiland?
RE: RE: German  
Milton : 5/7/2018 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13957394 Ron from Ninerland said:
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In comment 13957251 Phil in LA said:


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Became the first pitcher in history to throw 6 no hit 9K innings in his first career start. And he was the Yanks #17 prospect. Why anyone thinks we need to trade for “name” pitching is beyond me. Outs are outs and we have lots of guys who can get them.

Are you certain of that ? In the 80's I remember a Yankees September call up who got a spot start as did German. He was only supposed to pitch 3 or 4 innings but he took a no hitter into the 7th. I can't think of his name, but he never pitched that well again.
It's possible people are misquoting the original report which said he was the first to give up no hits in his first start and record 9 K's in at least 6 innings. The key difference being that someone could've taken a no-hitter into inning seven and then lost it, thus not qualifying for the part that reads "gave up no hits in his first start" because he gave up hits in the game.
I think Sam Militello is who you're thinking of  
Greg from LI : 5/7/2018 10:11 pm : link
He made his debut late in '92 and threw seven shutout innings of one-hit ball. Looked very promising - and in those days Yankee fans were desperate for anything to give them hope - pitched pretty well the rest of '92, then blew out his shoulder (I think) and that was all she wrote.
Looked up the box score  
Greg from LI : 5/7/2018 10:12 pm : link
Militello struck out 5 and walked 3 to go with the 1 hit allowed.
RE: I think Sam Militello is who you're thinking of  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/7/2018 11:05 pm : link
In comment 13957494 Greg from LI said:
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He made his debut late in '92 and threw seven shutout innings of one-hit ball. Looked very promising - and in those days Yankee fans were desperate for anything to give them hope - pitched pretty well the rest of '92, then blew out his shoulder (I think) and that was all she wrote.
I think you're right.
Militello was a big prospect  
Phil in LA : 5/7/2018 11:11 pm : link
but blew out his arm in year 2.
Was down the shore all day , just wanted to say, Awesome thread  
DennyInDenville : 5/7/2018 11:35 pm : link
Just great off day chatter. Agreed with Dave in Hoboken that it might be perhaps the most deserved day in sports history...

I worry about Andujar, I think he gets sent down. He's not walking enough will be their excuse if he stays cooling off.

Also, I think if we do target Fulmer or another 1A starter that Andujar may very well likely be in the trade with a Machado looming ahead, and wanting to likely keep Frazier over Andujar unless they would rather go after Bryce instead of Machado, interesting..

Anyway , great thread everyone. Sorry to ruin it lol jk.

Let's sweep the Sox and then start saving for World Series merchandise
Phil's stat is a little off  
chopperhatch : 5/7/2018 11:54 pm : link
The stat he quoted is a little off:

German Became the first pitcher in history to throw 6 no hit 9K innings in his first career start.

The correct stat is:

German became the first pitcher in history to finish with no hits and throw 9K in his first career start.

About a week ago Nick Kingham was perfect thru 6 and two thirds with 9 k against the Cards in his first outing. But he gave up a hit in the seventh to take him out of a perfect game and the stat mentioned.

Sorry to nitpick, but it matters a little bit. ;-)
Actually  
Don Draper : 5/8/2018 9:17 am : link
German became the first 25 YO right-handed Dominican pitcher in history to throw 6 no-hit 9K innings in his first career start and whose first name translated as the same day of the week as the day upon which he made the start and whose last name was also a European country, where the game time temperature was between 70 and 75 degrees under partly cloudy skies...

Sorry, some of these "statistics" get just a wee bit ridiculous...
RE: Actually  
YAJ2112 : 5/8/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 13957676 Don Draper said:
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German became the first 25 YO right-handed Dominican pitcher in history to throw 6 no-hit 9K innings in his first career start and whose first name translated as the same day of the week as the day upon which he made the start and whose last name was also a European country, where the game time temperature was between 70 and 75 degrees under partly cloudy skies...

Sorry, some of these "statistics" get just a wee bit ridiculous...


German is not the name of a country, it is the name of a language. So that stat is fake news!
RE: RE: Trenton comes to Richmond this weekend...  
Dunedin81 : 5/8/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 13957373 BC Eagles94 said:
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Excited to see some of these kids in person. Unfortunately (for these purposes alone) Sheffield was promoted but it'll still be a good time.



With all the graduations to the bigs, we don't have close to the amount of stud prospects in minors that we had last year. In fact, Trenton doesn't have one top hitting prospect. There won't be one guy in the line-uop you really care to see. So hopefully Tate, Acevedo, and Johnny Lasagna pitch this weekend for you.


We'll see. I think I'm lined up to see Will Carter, who is a prospect but not an elite one, but that could change. As for hitting prospects, no top prospects but a lot of interesting guys. Katoh, Avelino, Amburgey and Jhalan Jackson in particular, all worth seeing but not prospects on par with the Andujars and Florials of the world. I think Kyle Holder is still hurt.
RE: Actually  
chopperhatch : 5/8/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 13957676 Don Draper said:
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German became the first 25 YO right-handed Dominican pitcher in history to throw 6 no-hit 9K innings in his first career start and whose first name translated as the same day of the week as the day upon which he made the start and whose last name was also a European country, where the game time temperature was between 70 and 75 degrees under partly cloudy skies...

Sorry, some of these "statistics" get just a wee bit ridiculous...


Sorry, but that was the stat. Your attempt at humor sucked.
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