And then he just seemed to play like a guy who didn’t care. Half assed it with a perfect scenario around him to thrive. He ran routes like he didn’t care and didn’t fight for 50/50 balls. Brees gave up on him.
Based on the guy we saw in NO, I wouldn’t give him a minimum deal.
Plus when healthy, he wasn't that good with either Andrew Luck or Drew Brees throwing to him.
Um, huh? He was actually pretty good with the Colts.
NYG was right. He wasn't very good, even when healthy. Dropped balls, bad routes, bad efforts. I had no idea about him coming into the NFL, but as soon as I saw him play, I was extremely unimpressed. If you can't have a lot of success with the Colts/Luck and Saints/Brees, than that says it all. Extremely inconsistent too.
Comment was made that there was a concussion history, but "worth bringing in for a tryout."
Not sure what the tryout is supposed to demonstrate. Are we testing to see whether he can at least run without foot pounding reverberations causing additional concussions?
Every time I hear CF’s name, I think of Felix’s “Nobody’s cleaner than Mildred Fleener.” It’s like a lousy song or jingle you sometimes cannot get out of your head. :)
Evan Engram is a better version of what many hoped Fleener would be Â
At a position notoriously tough on the body. He was a high 2nd round pick, that's hardly a bust resume.
It's not a good resume either. Here's something to put this into perspective.
Coby Fleener
34th pick of his draft.
87 NFL games, 422 targets, 255 receptions, 3,080 yards, 22TD
12.1 yards per reception
Player X
153rd pick of his draft.
74 NFL games, 251 targets, 150 receptions 2033 yards, 22TD.
13.6 yards per reception
Player X is former Giant Kevin Boss.
I get that, but keep in mind some of the alternatives never even reached that rarified air. David Wilson is of course out of the league. AJ Jenkins is out of the league, as is Stephen Hill and Brian Quick might as well be. Alshon Jeffrey is great, Cordy Glenn is too, Janoris Jenkins has certainly recouped value, but Courtney Upshaw is a rotational player, Johnathan Martin has retired. A respectable career, which is what Fleener has had, is a decent return for a second rounder in this day and age.
Every time I hear CF’s name, I think of Felix’s “Nobody’s cleaner than Mildred Fleener.” It’s like a lousy song or jingle you sometimes cannot get out of your head. :)
I much fear serious trouble in the fuselage.... Frederick
Every time I hear CF’s name, I think of Felix’s “Nobody’s cleaner than Mildred Fleener.” It’s like a lousy song or jingle you sometimes cannot get out of your head. :)
LOL! Me too. Every time.
RE: He had 4 50-catch seasons, 3-600+ yard seasons... Â
At a position notoriously tough on the body. He was a high 2nd round pick, that's hardly a bust resume.
Sounds and looks Ruben randlish to me. I was never a big fan of fleener. Never made any wow plays but he put up some ok numbers in good offenses. He was ok at best. Not embarrasingly bad or anything but not good either.
Um, huh? He was actually pretty good with the Colts.
On the Colts he showed skill and promise.
Saints gave him a big deal.
And then he just seemed to play like a guy who didn’t care. Half assed it with a perfect scenario around him to thrive. He ran routes like he didn’t care and didn’t fight for 50/50 balls. Brees gave up on him.
Based on the guy we saw in NO, I wouldn’t give him a minimum deal.
Wait. You mean they didn't do it on purpose?
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Plus when healthy, he wasn't that good with either Andrew Luck or Drew Brees throwing to him.
Um, huh? He was actually pretty good with the Colts.
NYG was right. He wasn't very good, even when healthy. Dropped balls, bad routes, bad efforts. I had no idea about him coming into the NFL, but as soon as I saw him play, I was extremely unimpressed. If you can't have a lot of success with the Colts/Luck and Saints/Brees, than that says it all. Extremely inconsistent too.
It's not a good resume either. Here's something to put this into perspective.
Coby Fleener
34th pick of his draft.
87 NFL games, 422 targets, 255 receptions, 3,080 yards, 22TD
12.1 yards per reception
Player X
153rd pick of his draft.
74 NFL games, 251 targets, 150 receptions 2033 yards, 22TD.
13.6 yards per reception
Player X is former Giant Kevin Boss.
Not sure what the tryout is supposed to demonstrate. Are we testing to see whether he can at least run without foot pounding reverberations causing additional concussions?
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At a position notoriously tough on the body. He was a high 2nd round pick, that's hardly a bust resume.
It's not a good resume either. Here's something to put this into perspective.
Coby Fleener
34th pick of his draft.
87 NFL games, 422 targets, 255 receptions, 3,080 yards, 22TD
12.1 yards per reception
Player X
153rd pick of his draft.
74 NFL games, 251 targets, 150 receptions 2033 yards, 22TD.
13.6 yards per reception
Player X is former Giant Kevin Boss.
I get that, but keep in mind some of the alternatives never even reached that rarified air. David Wilson is of course out of the league. AJ Jenkins is out of the league, as is Stephen Hill and Brian Quick might as well be. Alshon Jeffrey is great, Cordy Glenn is too, Janoris Jenkins has certainly recouped value, but Courtney Upshaw is a rotational player, Johnathan Martin has retired. A respectable career, which is what Fleener has had, is a decent return for a second rounder in this day and age.
I much fear serious trouble in the fuselage.... Frederick
LOL! Me too. Every time.
Sounds and looks Ruben randlish to me. I was never a big fan of fleener. Never made any wow plays but he put up some ok numbers in good offenses. He was ok at best. Not embarrasingly bad or anything but not good either.