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pjcas18 : 5/8/2018 1:03 pm
or maybe WWYHD (what would you have done, instead of what would you do) if you were any of the three neighbors involved.

this is a true story, names have been changed to protect all parties. All the below are male.

Neighbor A: Hardworking, friendly, knows everyone in the neighborhood

Neighbor B: friends with Neighbor A, lives directly across the street, socializes with him, kids play, wives get along, etc.

Neighbor C: sort of isolated, lives on the fringes of the neighborhood, towards the main road, neighbor B does not know neighbor C, but Neighbor A knows Neighbor C casually.

Neighbor C's fence fell down, he owns a large German Shepherd that he used to let out in his backyard now needs to walk it while fence is being repaired.

Neighbor B works from home and his office faces the street.

Neighbor C is walking his dog and Neighbor B observes Neighbor C's dog take a dump on Neighbor A's lawn. Neighbor C has headphones on, but stops and looks at his phone while the dog relieves himself on Neighbor A's lawn. Neighbor B tried to get Neighbor C's attention to tell him about the lawn defecation but due to headphones Neighbor C doesn't hear.

Neighbor A gets home and Neighbor B goes across the street and tells Neighbor A, that Neighbor C's dog dumped on his lawn and Neighbor C left it there.

Neighbor A is pissed gets a shovel, scoops up the poop, walks through the neighborhood with the crap filled shovel and flings the poop onto Neighbor C's driveway.

Neighbor C sees or learns about it, comes out of his house with some kind of paddle or bat and walks over to Neighbor A's house and confronts Neighbor A.

An altercation ensues, law enforcement is called.

So needless to say the neighborhood is abuzz with talk of Poop-gate, not to be confused with the superintendent who crapped on the school track.

If you were neighbor B would you just have kept it to yourself?

If you were neighbor A would you have just picked up the poop and disposed of it? Or maybe considered talking to neighbor C?

And neighbor C? Is the the most to be blamed?

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A and C overreacted  
spike : 5/8/2018 2:37 pm : link
Considering they are casual friends
Was it  
mattyblue : 5/8/2018 2:41 pm : link
a paddle or a bat? Without knowing the supposed weapon how could I possibly determine guilt? Sounds like trashy fucking people though. I concur with those who suggested moving.
I've been Neighbor A with my neighbor  
Bramton1 : 5/8/2018 2:43 pm : link
He's let his dog shit on my lawn plenty of times, and on a few of those instances, I ended up stepping in it. So I got a paper towel, picked up the shit, and left it on my neighbor's front step. After the second time doing that, my neighbor doesn't let his dog shit on my yard anymore.

A welcome byproduct is that the dog doesn't piss on my lan anymore either. Because I don't know what the hell is in that urine, but everywhere the dog pisses, the grass dies.
RE: Neighbor C is an asshole  
Elisthebest : 5/8/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13958106 Model4001 said:
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Years ago some lady kept crapping her dog in my folks' front yard, all over the ivy and sometimes near the flowers, and never picked it up. My mom saw her one day and said "can you please not do that here?" (my mom's too nice) and the lady made a face and walked away, but it was still going on the next week.

I was stopping by one day that summer when she happened to be there with the dog and I let her have it - "get your fucking dog the fuck off my yard, how about I follow you home and take a shit in your yard," that sort of thing. A bit of an overreaction on my part, but she never came back!

People who think the world is their stupid dog's toilet bowl are garbage and should be treated accordingly.

Gee, I don't know why she never came back, Whatever works.
LMAO  
BleedBlue : 5/8/2018 2:50 pm : link
are you neighbor D?
You pick up after your dog.  
allstarjim : 5/8/2018 3:00 pm : link
I kind of think Neighbor B should've just addressed the issue right away with Neighbor C...given him a plastic bag and told him that you need to clean up after your dog.

And Neighbor C knew that his dog was taking a dump. He may have acted oblivious, but as a dog owner, you know when your dog is dropping logs.

Neighbor A, I feel, should have picked up the poop, tied it off in a nice plastic bag, went over to Neighbor C's house, rang the doorbell, and given him the bag when he opened the door, and said, "I think this belongs to you. In the future, please pick up your dog's shit, my lawn is not his toilet."

If you say it politely enough, everyone probably walks away, although neighbor C might be pissed, neighbor A has the moral high ground. He kind of lost that when he flung it at Neighbor C's driveway.

Neighbor C is clearly the most in the wrong, and is a jerk for not cleaning up after his dog.
There's a street in our hood  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/8/2018 3:02 pm : link
supposedly every couple is a swinger.
All three parties  
Metnut : 5/8/2018 3:03 pm : link
deserve some blame here, but IMO, neighbor A gets by far the most blame. Neighbor C the second most, and neighbor B the least.

If a dog is constantly shitting on someone's lawn, the owner of course has a right to be annoyed, and should confront if they find out who is responsible. Here, unless I'm missing something, it looks like this is a one-time incident. Neighbor C should've kept better watch on his dog, but neighbor A acted like a psychopath and escalated way out of proportion. What's wrong with just going to Neighbor C's house (since he already apparently knows neighbor C), letting him know what happened. Most likely result would've been an apology and it wouldn't have happened again.

Seems like neighbor A would rather act like a tough psychopath rather than just resolve the issue.
RE: There's a street in our hood  
ron mexico : 5/8/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13958192 DC Gmen Fan said:
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supposedly every couple is a swinger.


are there white rocks out front?
RE: RE: There's a street in our hood  
madgiantscow009 : 5/8/2018 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13958198 ron mexico said:
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In comment 13958192 DC Gmen Fan said:


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supposedly every couple is a swinger.



are there white rocks out front?


I thought it was purple rocks.

anyway, our dog doesn't go anywhere but the back yard. He won't even pee on a hike so I have to keep them short.
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arcarsenal : 5/8/2018 3:19 pm : link
Simple.

The guy who's dog shit on the lawn is the one who is most at fault. The neighbor whose lawn was shit on is also at fault for handling it like a child.

The middle guy didn't really do much wrong.

There's really no good that is going to come out of turning it into a poop flinging contest.

There's a spot around the corner from me where a lot of the dogs go - and unfortunately, every now and then, someone doesn't pick up after theirs.

One of the neighbors that lives over there thought it was my dog and decided to bag some of it and put it on my front porch, so I confronted him about it when he made some sort of remark about me making sure I picked up after my dog a couple of days later.

I held up the poop bag and said "listen, I know you threw the crap on my property - I've lived here for a while and always clean up after mine, so please don't do that again"

I could have just stormed over there and threw it at his house or at him but what's the point? He felt like a dick and apologized.
RE: RE: RE: There's a street in our hood  
Elisthebest : 5/8/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13958201 madgiantscow009 said:
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In comment 13958192 DC Gmen Fan said:


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supposedly every couple is a swinger.



are there white rocks out front?



I thought it was purple rocks.

anyway, our dog doesn't go anywhere but the back yard. He won't even pee on a hike so I have to keep them short.

Alright, what's the rocks thing mean?
any pics  
spike : 5/8/2018 3:44 pm : link
of the wives?
The bus stops with Neighbor C  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/8/2018 3:53 pm : link
How the hell do you not see your dog take a shit. He more then likely had his dog leashless. It's just asking for trouble.
How on earth is neighbor B an asshole????  
djm : 5/8/2018 4:06 pm : link
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A lot of people are overlooking the fact  
Mike from SI : 5/8/2018 4:11 pm : link
that Neighbor C brought a weapon to confront Neighbor A? Not cool. Everyone looks bad here, but don't bring a weapon to confront somebody.
RE: RE: RE: Wow. All 3 are horrible  
MOOPS : 5/8/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13958116 DennyInDenville said:
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But sounds like neighbor B is the worst.

Followed by neighbor A

Neighbor C sounds innocent, however has a bad temper



Neighbor C is innocent? If he followed basic etiquette and picked up after his dog (no way you can walk a dog and not know its shitting) the whole thing is avoided.



You have to provide benefit of the doubt to him 1.) Narc passive neighbor B to scared to shoulder tap him about the poop 2.) Maybe he really didn't know or see

Neighbor A should have then either cleaned it up one time and confronted the Neigbor C about it in the future , or instead of cleaning the poo and throwing it on the driveway, putting it into a paper bag, ringing the door bell, and saying hey I know this was your dogs poo, please don't have him Poo in my yard again bro, okay? Like a true Alpha male would do ..

Instead everyone became an emotional wreck and called the cops

Sad


Good lord. When you're walking a German Shepard, you know when it shits.
RE: RE: RE: RE: There's a street in our hood  
ron mexico : 5/8/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13958215 Elisthebest said:
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In comment 13958198 ron mexico said:


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In comment 13958192 DC Gmen Fan said:


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supposedly every couple is a swinger.



are there white rocks out front?



I thought it was purple rocks.

anyway, our dog doesn't go anywhere but the back yard. He won't even pee on a hike so I have to keep them short.


Alright, what's the rocks thing mean?

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C is number #1 scum bag  
xman : 5/8/2018 4:27 pm : link
hands down. Certified piece of shite that should be sent to North Korea or have his dog taken away.

A is ridiculous loving his lawn to the degree that he does and then being a low class dung slinger. Its a lawn.


I have a cashmere zoysia lawn requires tremendous maintenance with herbicide, fungicides, a little weed control etc. I put way too much energy and time into this part of nature. At the end of the day I know its only a lawn and if my neighbors kids play ball or have a party and someone parks on my lawn BFD. It grows back. It's life

PS I feel sorry for the dog. Send C to North Korea
RE: any pics  
Sec 103 : 5/8/2018 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13958245 spike said:
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of the wives?

This.... LOL, somebody had to do it
PJ  
BigBlue in Keys : 5/8/2018 6:30 pm : link
you should hang up some block party flyers in the next few days with A and C's phone numbers on the bottom. Be the first to call and RSVP with some wings.

The person I would least want as a neighbor is B. The guy watching out his window all day and then tattling. If he really had a problem he could of gone up to the kid and taken off his head phones and fixed the situation. Or just pick it up. Be the change you want to see in the world, right? He wanted to stir shit but did it like a sissy.

Neighbor C, while justified to be angry, over reacted. Probably made worse because neighbor B was nagging him like woman the minute he got home from work about some other guys shit. Bag it and go knock on the guys door if you have to vent. He was least to blame but most likely has some anger issues he needs to work through.

Neighbor A is an ass, but maybe it was one of those times the dog poops twice and you have only 1 bag. As far as the bat he is definitely in the wrong. But he is also the type of crazy neighbor I'd rather stay on his good side and have him watching over my house.

They need to all shake hands, have a beer and be thankful it's just poop.

Dammit I confused A and C.  
BigBlue in Keys : 5/8/2018 6:33 pm : link
Lot of ins, lot of outs.
RE: Neighbor D should move as he's surrounded by assholes  
micky : 5/8/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 13958037 Go Terps said:
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lmao!!
ABC  
bradshaw44 : 5/8/2018 8:22 pm : link
Are all dicks in their own right. B for snitching, C for being an ass and not cleaning up after his dog, and A for handling it the way he did.

Had B told me what happened and I was on speaking terms with C I would have said “hey bud, can you keep Kujo from dumping out on my yard if you don’t have bags for clean up?” I feel like his reaction was rooted in some other strong feelings he was harboring for the guy.
How is B a dick?  
Matt M. : 5/8/2018 8:24 pm : link
He was looking out for his friend. Neighbor A should have gone over to C's house and told him, "Your dog took a dump on my lawn. You must have forgotten to clean it up. Please do so now."
PJ you’re C aren’t you?  
Giant John : 5/8/2018 8:36 pm : link
Cmon you can admit it.
RE: How is B a dick?  
bradshaw44 : 5/8/2018 8:56 pm : link
In comment 13958508 Matt M. said:
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He was looking out for his friend. Neighbor A should have gone over to C's house and told him, "Your dog took a dump on my lawn. You must have forgotten to clean it up. Please do so now."


Because he ran to A and sparked the whole thing. Had B gone to C and said “hey I saw your dog shit on As lawn you might want to pick that up” it could have kept things from popping off. Instead he ran to A and said “Cs dog shit on your lawn and he just left it.” B was the escalator.
This thread makes me dread moving out of the city  
Oscar : 5/8/2018 9:12 pm : link
Feels like suburban life will be never ending scenarios like this.
And really  
djm : 5/8/2018 9:33 pm : link
How the hell do you not know your gigantic dog just took a dump on someone’s lawn?! That’s a load of shit, no pun intended. And even if he did truly miss it, unacceptable! There’s no talking your way out of that one. The dude fucked up. I’d rat him out too lol. Fuck him.
Although honestly now that I really think it over  
djm : 5/8/2018 9:38 pm : link
I wouldn’t say a word unless it happened more than once. One time deal I’d probably let it go especially since I’m not that close with any of my neighbors to the point where I’d be talking to them every day.

But regardless the line that the guy didn’t know his dog was dumping is total bullshit.
Just some background  
pjcas18 : 5/8/2018 10:31 pm : link
on A, B, and C, from my perspective. New stuff I learned that maybe helps explain the motivation for B.

A is an awesome guy, well connected in the town, the kind of guy everyone knows and he's not an asshole at all in my experience. I belong to a gun club with him and he's a solid citizen in my experience. I think this was out of character. he does drink mich ultra's which is sort of feminine, but I can usually get past that.

B also a nice guy, and he's the neighbor who gives me all his old tools. He bought a chainsaw, without a tree on his property to remove a shrub. I said dude, just get some bypass loppers and a shovel, you don't need to buy a 22 inch stihl chain saw to remove a shrub. anyway, I now have his chain saw and weed whacker (he couldn't figure out how to change the trimmer line so he gave it to me) and had no use for the chain saw. He's very generous and always brings us vegetables from his garden, brings in our mail if we're away. He's generally a good person to have in the neighborhood from my perspective. My youngest is close with one of his kids.

B, I didn't realize had a history with A where his kids were walking their dog and B's dog crapped on A's lawn and his kids left it. Neighbor A didn't make a big deal about it, but he saw the kids just leave the dump there and in that case did the right thing because it was kids and he likes B.

So I think Neighbor B was trying to just trying to stay in neighbor A's good graces and didn't tell him to tattle (at least I don't think) I think he told him to say, see I got your back, I'm looking out for you. Apparently he tried to stop neighbor C, but he gave up after a short time b/c of the headphones.

Neighbor C I had only been nod neighbors with (when he drives by or I drive by or we pass otherwise we nod to each other), but he's got kids my older kids age and they said they see him at the gym sometimes and he's a monster at the gym. he doesn't seem obviously big or strong to me, but I guess I could see it. They think he would have kicked neighbor A's ass.

And that's the worst thing about this, while it didn't come to blows, it became public and it sets an awful example for the kids.

Anyway, thanks for the constructive responses. I was trying to figure out who was wrong, who was right, or just thought it was an interesting story to share.

None of these people have ever caused any issues with me, and the neighborhood is really quiet and a good community. In 5 plus years this is the only incident I ever know about happening and in the big picture it's pretty minor.

I have a backyard hockey rink and the whole street is there all winter. I don't even know some of the kids, they'll knock on the door (if it's a reasonable time) and ask me if they can skate if no one's out there and I always say yes and turn the light on, give them the nets, pucks, etc.

one of the neighbors hosts a halloween party, some of the parents congregate there the kids trick or treat and they have a bonfire and parents drink by the fire.

just a typical suburban neighborhood IMO.
RE: Although honestly now that I really think it over  
bradshaw44 : 5/8/2018 11:01 pm : link
In comment 13958642 djm said:
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I wouldn’t say a word unless it happened more than once. One time deal I’d probably let it go especially since I’m not that close with any of my neighbors to the point where I’d be talking to them every day.

But regardless the line that the guy didn’t know his dog was dumping is total bullshit.


Exactly. If it was a common occurrence then you rat. Otherwise that just seems petty.
what the hell  
spike : 5/8/2018 11:19 pm : link
is a backyard hockey rink?
RE: what the hell  
pjcas18 : 5/8/2018 11:24 pm : link
In comment 13958792 spike said:
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is a backyard hockey rink?


very popular in new england.

rink in a box and nice rink sell them.

I made my own mostly (someone on here has an incredible one, maybe I am ninja, mine is basic).

I bought the brackets from rink in a box off a teammate from my men's league hockey team who moved and didn't have a good yard for it anymore. I made plywood boards (stripped plywood into three pieces), put up the brackets behind them, and every year I buy a new liner then flood it when it gets cold enough for water to freeze.

mine is 24 x 40 which is decent size, but not huge, you don't use real nets, they're like pond hockey nets and the kids are out there from time they get home until I kick them off. I have an outdoor flood light and I even have LED lights under the ice for the blue lines and red line.

it's a lot of fun.
Here is a picture  
pjcas18 : 5/8/2018 11:32 pm : link
it was in the front yard initially. most level place on my property. All I did after this was put the liner in and flood it. I had a fire pit and a couple benches to put your skates on.

pcjas18  
bc4life : 5/9/2018 7:45 am : link
All this just so you could brag about your homemade hockey rink? Shameful.
Neighborhood Drama "The Sequel"  
bc4life : 5/9/2018 7:49 am : link
Neighbor C buys silverback gorilla, trains it to walk down to Neighbor A's lawn and take a dump while wearing a T-shirt that reads "F*** your lawn".
I would appreciate B if I was A  
widmerseyebrow : 5/9/2018 7:59 am : link
And I agree with Tbone's way of handling it.

I've had a phantom shitter for a few months on and off and I finally came home to see who is probably doing it. Some woman with her terrier taking a piss in the same spot. Only dog that I've seen get walked on my street. I startled the two of them with my opening garage and they were forced to flee before the phantom could strike again.
RE: Here is a picture  
Elisthebest : 5/9/2018 8:11 am : link
In comment 13958803 pjcas18 said:
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it was in the front yard initially. most level place on my property. All I did after this was put the liner in and flood it. I had a fire pit and a couple benches to put your skates on.


I only read the Headline at first and feared someone had taken a picture of the offending excrement
RE: pcjas18  
pjcas18 : 5/9/2018 9:32 am : link
In comment 13958851 bc4life said:
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All this just so you could brag about your homemade hockey rink? Shameful.


Not that I'd say I'm beyond doing that, but I did start a bragging thread about my home rink right after I built it a couple years ago. And then someone (I thought it was I am ninja) posted theirs and it made mine look like garbage.
RE: Neighbor a is right I would of done much worse  
Jay in Toronto : 5/9/2018 9:47 am : link
In comment 13958036 eli4life said:
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Also neighbor b needs to mind his own business


This is contradictory. If B took your advice you would not be able to act.

I haven't read all comments, I as B would go to C under the assumption that he wasn't aware of the defecation cause he was busy with phone or music etc (even if not true lets him save face) and have a discussion (hopefully he disposes of the poop).

If he tells me to mind my own business etc I would probably dispose of the poop and probably discuss with A and thus increase C's isolation as a poor neighbour.
pcjas18  
bc4life : 5/9/2018 10:14 am : link
Garbage? - Nonsense! hockey is hockey.

On a related note - Did you hang a heavy bag so they can train for the inevitable hockey fights?
RE: pcjas18  
pjcas18 : 5/9/2018 10:21 am : link
In comment 13959009 bc4life said:
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Garbage? - Nonsense! hockey is hockey.

On a related note - Did you hang a heavy bag so they can train for the inevitable hockey fights?


LOL, no heavy bag, but a lot of the fights happen when my daughter and her teammates beat the neighborhood boys. the boys fight with each other. I do play ref a lot.
RE: Since I'm not an asshole...  
fbdad : 5/9/2018 11:19 am : link
In comment 13958071 Mike in Prescott said:
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...Unlike most of the alphabet, If the dog went on my lawn without the owner knowing about it, I would a: clean it up, disposing of it properly. Then b: go to neighbor C's house and have a polite discussion and ask if he could please be mindful of the dog. Perhaps make a joke of it. Ask how the back-yard fence repair is going, and possibly turn an annoying, but not really tragic situation into a new neighbor relationship.

^^^^^^^^^ This
When did we become a society that assumes the worst intent from everyone's actions? Clean the poop out of your yard and ask your neighbor politely to please clean up after his dog in the future. This shouldn't be an issue until at least the second time Neighbor C leaves his dog's poop hanging around.

WTF has happened to the idea of manners and looking out for each other as neighbors? Seriously, what a bunch of selfish dick-wads.
Another reason Neighbor C is an asshole  
Ron from Ninerland : 5/9/2018 12:37 pm : link
The OP said that the only reason Neighbor C was walking the dog is because his fence is being repaired. Lazy MF'ers like this should not be allowed to own dogs. A German Shepard is a large social dog that needs a lot of exercise and preferably some contact with other dogs and humans. Take him for walks, take him to the park. Just letting him out in that tiny yard isn't enough.
rat? snitch?  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/9/2018 1:04 pm : link
that's ridiculous. Neighbor B is friendly with Neighbor A and saw douchebag Neighbor C let his dog take a shit in Neighbor A's lawn without cleaning it up. Why shouldn't Neighbor A be entitled to know who the asshole was that did that?

Did Neighbor A need to escalate the situation? No. Could he have handled it better? Of course. But this is starts and stops with Neighbor C who decided he didn't want to clean up after his dog and doesn't care about his neighbors' things.

I love dogs, but I hate people who don't clean up after their own or curb their dog in a city. It's so damn discourteous. On a related note, I can't stand when people just litter cigarette butts wherever they want. Such lack of respect or consideration for the neighborhood and community.
Is that little black and white dog  
mikeygiants : 5/9/2018 6:15 pm : link
taking a shit in that picture?

I’m shocked that you’re the only one who brought up the kids (the younger ones, not the adults acting like kids).

Nice rink. I’m super jealous.
Wait til  
spike : 5/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
That dog poop on your rink
RE: Dammit I confused A and C.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/9/2018 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13958376 BigBlue in Keys said:
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Lot of ins, lot of outs.


Lotta what-have-yous
I agree with those that said they are all wrong  
steve in ky : 5/9/2018 8:48 pm : link
B should mind his own business and never should have gotten involved in something so trivial. It's one thing if it had become a reoccurring issue that A was trying to figure out the source of but by this description it was one time and he felt the need to inject himself in other peoples lives.

A's inability to control his emotions and actions makes him sound unstable. He greatly over reacted to something that, lets face it while annoying is far from something that any homeowner has not also experienced. There are grown up ways of dealing with it without acting like a lunatic.

C sounds like a typical selfish person who isn't even aware of how his behavior might negatively impact or anger those around him. His boorish behaviour put this entire ordeal in motion. But in reality there are countless people like him and both A and B handled the encounter horribly and as a result escalated the situation far beyond where it should have ever gone.

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