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NFT: Would you buy a Huawei phone?

ImThatGuy : 5/8/2018 5:48 pm
I'm an Android guy and need to buy a phone for someone. I don't want to break the bank but want the person to have a solid smart phone.

A bunch of govt agencies have warned against buying phones from Huawei for fear of Chinese govt spying. AT& T and Verizon have dropped their phones too, so the only place to buy them is on Amazon

All reviews indicate that the phones are solid all around especially at their price point. I'm not trying to get political or tin-foily hat, but is there truth to any of this? If you were in my boat would you buy the phone?

(Trying to keep it in the $2-300 range and for the record I have a OnePlus 5 and it's great)
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ImThatGuy : 5/8/2018 5:51 pm : link
Here is one of the many links on this topic
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No, but I would buy a Hooli phone.  
Boy Cord : 5/8/2018 6:07 pm : link
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Yes, they make an incredible phone  
jlukes : 5/8/2018 6:55 pm : link
they made the Nexus 6P for google 2 years ago and it was an awesome device
I had the Honor 8, which was a good phone.  
Deacon : 5/8/2018 8:15 pm : link
I currently have the Oneplus 5T which did not break the bank.

That said, if I were looking for a 'budget' phone today I would use the Moto G5 Plus. See link:
Best Cheap Android Phones - ( New Window )
I wouldn't buy from them, not because of their  
jcn56 : 5/8/2018 8:23 pm : link
manufacturing capabilities, but because of the surveillance concerns. They're not made up.
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section125 : 5/8/2018 8:26 pm : link
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manufacturing capabilities, but because of the surveillance concerns. They're not made up.


I don't trust the Chinese, either. They have been cheating and stealing for decades.
Newegg has the G5 Plus on sale for $170  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/8/2018 8:48 pm : link
With coupon code EMCSPUPX2

G5 Plus - ( New Window )
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Deacon : 5/8/2018 8:50 pm : link
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manufacturing capabilities, but because of the surveillance concerns. They're not made up.



I don't trust the Chinese, either. They have been cheating and stealing for decades.


Let's not fool ourselves; Apple, Google, Instaface, Snapchat, and on and on and on...all have more on each of us than we're aware. If you carry a smartphone your just out there. Chinese, Taiwan, Korean, US it really doesn't matter too much as your information is out there.

There is a reason drug dealers try to find all the Nokia 3310's they can. And pay big dollars for them.
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jcn56 : 5/8/2018 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13958541 Deacon said:
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manufacturing capabilities, but because of the surveillance concerns. They're not made up.



I don't trust the Chinese, either. They have been cheating and stealing for decades.



Let's not fool ourselves; Apple, Google, Instaface, Snapchat, and on and on and on...all have more on each of us than we're aware. If you carry a smartphone your just out there. Chinese, Taiwan, Korean, US it really doesn't matter too much as your information is out there.

There is a reason drug dealers try to find all the Nokia 3310's they can. And pay big dollars for them.


Actually you're wrong - we are certainly aware what these companies have access to, there are very long user agreements that go into great detail explaining exactly what you've given up in terms of privacy.

They're all about the money. They'll sell out where you're going, what you're searching, what you're buying, etc. like nobody's business.

What they won't be doing is harvesting your logon credentials for later use. Or mining your e-mail for potential corporate espionage.
no way in hell  
John in Loudoun : 5/9/2018 8:15 am : link
do I use any Huawei products. Ever.
what jcn said  
giants#1 : 5/9/2018 9:07 am : link
if you're ok with the Chinese spying on this individual, go ahead.

The concerns around Huawei did not start with the current administration.
My Nexus 6P has been the best phone I have ever owned  
AnnapolisMike : 5/9/2018 9:30 am : link
It is still my daily driver after 3 years. I am running the latest version of Android 8.1 Oreo. It has a 6" screen without significant scratches even without a cover. Dropped too many times to count with no ill effects. Dual front facing speakers that sound better than the speaker on any other phone I have owned. It is just a rock solid device. Changed the battery out about 4 months ago and the performance is still excellent.

That said...we bought a Honor 7x...and it was underpowered. Quickly sold it and replaced it with an Essential Phone which has been great.

If I did secretive work then I would probably think twice, but some of their new phones are excellent and well worth a look. I generally will not shell out more than $500 for a device that is one bad drop away from the trash can or could easily be lost.
I have MotoG5+. It's great.  
NoPeanutz : 5/9/2018 9:55 am : link
They have it at Costco for around 200 or less, but I got mine at Amazon for about the same price.
Why get Huawei when there are enough great unlocked options running "stock" android at the $200 price point already on the market?
Understand that this has less to do with the confidentiality  
jcn56 : 5/9/2018 9:57 am : link
of what you do or what you have access to, and more a matter of national security.

Cybersecurity is increasingly becoming a military focal point. Nation states have been poking at us, whether at our industrial controls or our financial systems, in an attempt to cause us harm in ways that they could never accomplish using conventional military tactics. Just take a look at the Russians and their sock puppet campaign in the last election.

These threats are growing by the day. One way for the Chinese and Russians to beat us is to have a diverse, firmly entrenched set of compromised clients on our infrastructure. This makes it easier for them to pursue advanced persistent threats because it's more difficult to track if the surface area of the attack is spread out.

We've seen it in IoT devices like webcams, and we've seen compromised network equipment. It only stands to reason they'll go after the clients.

Before anyone says it - obviously, all countries are guilty of this. France used to steal industry secrets for their companies from any engineer that walked across their border holding a company issued laptop (no, Alcatel wasn't that adept at predicting the future). The US has certainly done their fair share. Do I think the US doesn't embed backdoors left and right into software and hardware, with participation from the tech companies? I have no proof, but I don't doubt it.
RE: I had the Honor 8, which was a good phone.  
Alan in Toledo : 5/9/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13958497 Deacon said:
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I currently have the Oneplus 5T which did not break the bank.

That said, if I were looking for a 'budget' phone today I would use the Moto G5 Plus. See link: Best Cheap Android Phones - ( New Window )


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RE: I had the Honor 8, which was a good phone.  
Scott in Montreal : 5/9/2018 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13958497 Deacon said:
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I currently have the Oneplus 5T which did not break the bank.


I was looking at the OnePlus 5T before getting my current G6. I was set on the OnePlus until I read on a couple of different forums that while the phones are fantastic, the company tends to stop all support on the older models once the new model is released.

What is your experience? I really like their phones and would get one for my next purchase but if the support rumor is true. That would be a deal breaker for me.
I'm really enjoying the Oneplus 5T  
Deacon : 5/9/2018 9:48 pm : link
My 12 y/o is using my old Oneplus 3. We're on the same OS and security patch. The OP5T is very fast and smooth. The only thing that it doesn't have going for it is no IP rating.

At this time the only place to find a new 5T is on Swappa, e-bay, or Amazon. They only make a given number of devices for a region, once they're gone, they're gone.

The Oneplus 6 is being announced on 5/16. There will be pop up store/event:


Monday, May 21 at 7 PM - 11 PM

The Flat NYC
23 West 24th, New York, New York 10036

It looks like an amazing device!



^^^ Continued  
Deacon : 5/9/2018 9:56 pm : link
Apologies for the NY stuff, I didn't realize you were in Montreal.

Please read through the forum I linked. You'll find a ton of info. on the 5T
OP5T @ Android Central - ( New Window )
Great. Thank you Deacon  
Scott in Montreal : 5/10/2018 4:15 pm : link
I would be looking at going to the next model.
Thank you again.
No worries...  
Deacon : 5/10/2018 7:53 pm : link
Just let us know if you like it :)
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