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NFT: Yanks talk 5-10: 17 out of 18 BABY!!!!

superspynyg : 5/10/2018 8:06 am
This is not the game thread.

Out of the last 18 games we have 1 loss to the Astros. Now that is awesome. Not to stir up an old argument but... NYC is a Yankee town again!!!

Even if we lose tonight we will still be tied with the Sux for best record in Baseball. Still have a long season ahead.

What Iíll this t3am do when Drury comes back? Will Andujar still start? I have all but given up on Bird. I think that Austin goes back down with Walker taking 1b full time.

Looking to the future I have to wear two pairs of shades. Ecuase its sooo bright! I would like to add a SP to this team you the deadline. I would love to get DeGrom if the Mets were willing to part but I doubt they would. Fulmer from Det s a name I like.


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Scherzer is the glaring exception...  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 10:48 am : link
and Lester got the Cubbies a championship, even if he looked very human last year (albeit after throwing 235+ IP between regular and postseason in 2016). But for the most part these long-term deals for starting pitchers into their mid-30's have very rarely paid off. CC post-opt out was a bad deal, though he has rejuvenated himself. Bumgardner had a phenomenal track record of durability and success until last year, and his injuries have been somewhat flukey. But how much do you want them to gamble on his getting back to sub-3 ERA form and sustaining it for 200+ innings a year?
RE: Giving up on Bird?  
Beer Man : 5/10/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 13960043 Ryan in Albany said:
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He'll be back by the end of this month.
+1. He hit a HR in extended Spring training yesterday and is starting his first rehab game with the Tampa Tarpons tonight. By next week he should be at AAA-SWB preparing to rejoin the Yanks before months-end
Imo  
Bill2 : 5/10/2018 10:56 am : link
They would be lucky based on an average baseball season NOT to have a pitcher with a severe slump at some point and one more 10 day DL and one more 30 day DL.

They have to get back in shape after those stretches and then gain confidence. Plus Montgomery and German have legit atretching out boundaries.

And as much as we are fans...its one in three minor league pitchers who reach their ceiling...maybe lower.

Add Tanaka and CC age and or vulnerability into our thinking.

We need another SP. We have $13m in cap room. At the half way mark we can afford a $20m pitcher.

We have more minor league RhP than we have slots. We can get this done. All of us will fret that we gave up prospect potential. Like we did when we traded Jesus Montero
The past two days,  
NorwoodWideRight : 5/10/2018 10:59 am : link
and last night especially, have felt more like October baseball rather than May. The stadium was absolutely rocking.
What's got to scare the rest of the league  
Jeever : 5/10/2018 11:00 am : link
is the Yanks just blew thru all the first place teams in the league and the lineup isn't hitting on all cylinders yet. Last nite Gardy rakes. It seems each night it's someone else stepping up which bodes well going forward.

When Drury comes back I think we send Andujar back down so he can keep playing on a daily basis and showcase Drury for possible trade bait. I would love to see us get another Starter and maybe more bullpen help. You never have enough pitching!!

When Bird gets back we can ease him back into the lineup. If anything we send Austin back down so he too can keep fresh.
Bill  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 11:12 am : link
Just to clarify, I'm less worried about the cost in prospects than the cost in dollars of a FA signing or an extension. We do have the ammo to get it done, I'm just not sure the potential targets are going to be worth the cost.
What's  
mitch300 : 5/10/2018 11:14 am : link
crazy is if the Yanks would play 500 ball the rest of the season( of course we all expect more) they would have 89 wins! BTW didn't the Yanks offer more for Duda or maybe Bruce than what the Met's got from Tampa/Cleveland gave them. No way the Met's trade with the Yanks.
They're palying at 116 win pace. Over the last 20, .900 ball!  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 11:20 am : link
And against the best of the AL, not the weak sisters. Amazing.
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Keith : 5/10/2018 11:22 am : link
In comment 13960047 mfsd said:
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What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???



Good question, would love to know. Hanley did preen like a peacock around the bases after his bomb, I had a feeling Judge was hollering something back at him. Didnít seem nasty, but looked like he let out a loud whoop in Hanleyís direction

Whatever it was, great seeing so much fire from our guys like that


Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.
It's weird that for as much as Stanton has struggled, he's really the  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/10/2018 11:25 am : link
only guy killing LHP for the Yanks so far... 400/441/1.133
Good teams find ways to win.  
Keith : 5/10/2018 11:41 am : link
When the pitching isn't great, we score a lot of runs. When the bats are quiet, the pitching is stepped up. When it's late and we need a clutch hit or a clutch out, we get it. This is a really good team.

The job by Holder last night was so important. 2nd and 3rd with one out and he got us out of it. Put the offense in a position to rally and take the lead.
They have to take some chances...  
GiantJake : 5/10/2018 11:41 am : link
and try to get guys like Betances, Holder and Shreve in a groove. They can't keep going to Green, Robertson and Chapman every night. That's not sustainable. It's early May and it's a long season. Hopefully Kahnle and Warren can get back soon and get in the mix.
RE: RE: Syndergaard is likely untouchable  
Jay on the Island : 5/10/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13960181 Justlurking said:
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Sonny Gray, Frazier, Florial, Drury (assuming headaches go away) - you're telling me Mets hang up? No way. 3 immediate starters and a potential lottery ticket. Obviously could mix and match with Abreu, Tate, Freicer Perez, Medina, etc

Yes the Mets would 100% hang up on that offer.
RE: RE: RE: Syndergaard is likely untouchable  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 12:14 pm : link
In comment 13960265 Jay on the Island said:
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Sonny Gray, Frazier, Florial, Drury (assuming headaches go away) - you're telling me Mets hang up? No way. 3 immediate starters and a potential lottery ticket. Obviously could mix and match with Abreu, Tate, Freicer Perez, Medina, etc


Yes the Mets would 100% hang up on that offer.


Do they hang up? No. Do they take it? Also no. Three years of Sale was worth perhaps the best prospect in baseball and a Top 25 pitching prospect in Kopech, plus a couple tertiary pieces, and that was without emotional attachment or rivalry from an org that was 100% committed to a tear-down. Four and a half years of Syndergaard is worth at least that much, probably more, even with the injury considerations, and with the paucity of true aces around baseball they can get it. So yeah, Gleyber/Sheffield is the starting point value-wise, plus considerable tertiary pieces, and that's assuming the Wilpons entertain the idea of trading him at all. Throw in a premium the Yankees would have to pay because they're cross-town, and it becomes more or less a thought exercise.
RE: Bill  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13960233 Dunedin81 said:
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Just to clarify, I'm less worried about the cost in prospects than the cost in dollars of a FA signing or an extension. We do have the ammo to get it done, I'm just not sure the potential targets are going to be worth the cost.


I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
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Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 12:36 pm : link
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Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.


Agreed, but that is the most emotion I've seen from Judge with respect to one of his accomplishments, perhaps ever. There was actually a bit of a smile.
Stanton and Judge  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 12:39 pm : link
good things seem to happen when they go with the pitch to right field (including setting themselves and pitchers up to cream pitches elsewhere).
RE: Stanton and Judge  
section125 : 5/10/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 13960302 Jay in Toronto said:
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good things seem to happen when they go with the pitch to right field (including setting themselves and pitchers up to cream pitches elsewhere).


This is true. Those two and Gary can flick their wrists toward right and hit it out. Judge should do this because they attack him up and down and away. Slapping a few to right would help. A few doubles in the corner would drop the Ks.
Stanton  
mitch300 : 5/10/2018 1:02 pm : link
is batting like 565 against Boston. Ya gotta love that.
RE: What's got to scare the rest of the league  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/10/2018 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13960224 Jeever said:
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is the Yanks just blew thru all the first place teams in the league and the lineup isn't hitting on all cylinders yet. Last nite Gardy rakes. It seems each night it's someone else stepping up which bodes well going forward.

When Drury comes back I think we send Andujar back down so he can keep playing on a daily basis and showcase Drury for possible trade bait. I would love to see us get another Starter and maybe more bullpen help. You never have enough pitching!!

When Bird gets back we can ease him back into the lineup. If anything we send Austin back down so he too can keep fresh.


Playoffs is a different ballgame. Pitching is king. We saw it last year. We are still likely an SP short unless one of German or Sheff rises up or a pre deadline trade. Verlander at the deadline won it for the Stros and missing out on Cole was huge.
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Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13960290 Jay in Toronto said:
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Just to clarify, I'm less worried about the cost in prospects than the cost in dollars of a FA signing or an extension. We do have the ammo to get it done, I'm just not sure the potential targets are going to be worth the cost.



I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.


Precisely. The amount of money they have is pretty much irrelevant, the amount they're willing to spend is fixed and giving 1/7th or more of it to a single starting pitcher is a problem when ultimately Judge, Sanchez and Severino will all need to be paid.
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mfsd : 5/10/2018 1:24 pm : link
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Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.



Agreed, but that is the most emotion I've seen from Judge with respect to one of his accomplishments, perhaps ever. There was actually a bit of a smile.


Yeah I donít think he was talking shit to anyone on the Sox, just hooting a bit as he rounded the bases. Wasnít showing anyone up, just showing emotion, which was pretty cool bc heís usually so guarded
Not to speak heresy hear but . . . .  
gmenrule-va : 5/10/2018 1:27 pm : link
"Bust"bury (Jacoby) is still owed $68 million and I can't see a straight DFA. So, how do you make room? Is trading a guy like Gardner something they will consider?

I understand that based on his last few games this is "heresy", but trades only happen when a team sees value in it for them - - which is exactly why we haven't been able to get rid of "Bust"bury. What other options do they have?

I think Austin goes down to add Bird, and Andujar could go down to add Drury. I think they platoon Bird/Walker in a L/R combo to see if Bird can get his swing back.
As the Ellsbury contract winds down it'll be "movable"...  
Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 1:35 pm : link
in the sense that they can eat 80% of it and find a team to take him, if he's healthy and they throw in a prospect. Alternatively, they could swap him for someone else's bad deal (Jordan Zimmerman maybe) if the money is close enough.
RE: RE: Bill  
Greg from LI : 5/10/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13960290 Jay in Toronto said:
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.


Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13960364 Greg from LI said:
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.


Hank's last hurrah was the 10 year deal they gave A-Rod after he opted out. He's been given the task of watching over the horses. Lol
Under the radar in Yankee minor league pitching  
xman : 5/10/2018 2:26 pm : link
is the guy I think is one of the guys we got from Texas for Beltran. Erik Swanson good physical size too.
RE: Under the radar in Yankee minor league pitching  
chopperhatch : 5/10/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 13960407 xman said:
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is the guy I think is one of the guys we got from Texas for Beltran. Erik Swanson good physical size too.


You mean Dillon Tate?
RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13960364 Greg from LI said:
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.



Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.


Thankfully. Hank-en-Stein a true embarassment.
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Dunedin81 : 5/10/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13960430 chopperhatch said:
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is the guy I think is one of the guys we got from Texas for Beltran. Erik Swanson good physical size too.



You mean Dillon Tate?


Tate is who is he, enigmatic but great stuff but a lot of inconsistency. Swanson was also a part of the deal (as was Nick Green, who has been pitching well too) and he has been dominating AA, albeit without the stuff that Tate has. Could be a fringey MLB guy ala Dietrich Enns, could end up something more.
For those who care  
davek3698 : 5/10/2018 3:13 pm : link
Tampa Bay cut Ty Hensley recently. Hadn't thrown in a game since 2014. Very unfortunate, extensive injury history
really hoping Bird can come back  
RasputinPrime : 5/10/2018 3:13 pm : link
and stay in as part of the core. We need a strong presence in the lineup from the left-side to balance out Judge-Stanton-Sanchez.

Andujar is going to be tough to send down. He could use seasoning but unless he really falls off the table I'd rather he get it with the big club. Drury, Ellsbury and Frazier are all in a holding patterns with no where to play even if they were ready.
RE: For those who care  
RasputinPrime : 5/10/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13960472 davek3698 said:
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Tampa Bay cut Ty Hensley recently. Hadn't thrown in a game since 2014. Very unfortunate, extensive injury history


Hensley and Brackman. Schmidt better not be next on that list.
Alan Horne  
davek3698 : 5/10/2018 3:37 pm : link
might have been the best of them in the 2000s, if not for his injuries.
RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 3:41 pm : link
In comment 13960364 Greg from LI said:
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.


Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!
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Ace718 : 5/10/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 13960475 RasputinPrime said:
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Tampa Bay cut Ty Hensley recently. Hadn't thrown in a game since 2014. Very unfortunate, extensive injury history



Hensley and Brackman. Schmidt better not be next on that list.


There was also a closer who was dominating in the minors and was supposed to take over after Rivera. But he also fell off the table. His last name was also Montgomery
RE: RE: RE: RE: Bill  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 3:58 pm : link
In comment 13960501 Jay in Toronto said:
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
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Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.



Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!


Hal is actually Harold and Hank is actually Henry.
Christian Garcia was the goods  
Greg from LI : 5/10/2018 4:11 pm : link
But was never healthy for more than a few weeks at a time.
The list is long.  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 4:16 pm : link
Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.
RE: Just thinking out loud here  
Photoguy : 5/10/2018 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13960112 rich in DC said:
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Right now, the Yanks SP does look strong. However, we should also keep in mind that this is a team designed for the long haul (at least 6 core position guys who are still in their rookie deals, lots of power bullpen arms, Severino and other young SP).

With that in mind, at the trade deadline in July, do the Yanks take a risk and go after a ace level young SP? IMO, they might want to examine what's out there.

I was VERY against the Cole rumors, and was not impressed with any of the other SP rumored to be connected to the Yanks this winter. However, as there are an unusually large group of teams who look to be "tanking" and a smaller but significant group of teams who are fading quickly, perhaps the Yanks SHOULD look for match-ups.

I think that with Severino and Tanaka pretty much locks for the post-season rotation (assuming health) and Gray a decent 3rd/4th SP option in the playoffs- but only under Yankee control for this year and next, perhaps another ace is in order.

While I understand that the teams just don't deal with each other, and the price would be EXTREME, I wonder whether the Yanks should be making Syndergaard their primary trade deadline target.

He turns 26 in August, so he's not really old. He is under team control via arbitration through the 2021 season. He "fits" the Yankee profile of power arm with good secondary stuff. He has also handled the NY media relatively well (certainly better than Harvey did).

The problem, of course, would be that the Mets ownership likely does not want to help the Yanks and would probably make an outlandish ask to the Yanks. On the other hand, the Yanks have depth in the minor league system- and the Mets don't- and the Mets need a rebuild.

IMO, no one on the 25 man ML roster should be available (unless the Mets WANT to take Ellsbury), but every minor leaguer not named Sheffield should be. What do you think it would take?



God......if the Mets did that, fires would be burning outside Citi Field. Alderson would have to hire bodyguards.
RE: The list is long.  
giants#1 : 5/10/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13960527 Ace718 said:
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.


Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....
RE: RE: The list is long.  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 4:33 pm : link
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.



Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....


Forgot about him. But he never had the hype coming up from the system like a lot of other names I listed. Banuelos was a can't miss prospect.
Yup, I remember Wang and Cano  
giants#1 : 5/10/2018 4:36 pm : link
basically coming up together as unheralded prospects and far exceeding all expectations, at least until the foot injury for Wang.
RE: Yup, I remember Wang and Cano  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13960542 giants#1 said:
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basically coming up together as unheralded prospects and far exceeding all expectations, at least until the foot injury for Wang.


They and Melky Cabrera debuted together at Fenway in 2005.

Wang would be great on this team. Pre-injury, he was an innings eating, ground ball machine who worked fast.
RE: Yup, I remember Wang and Cano  
Ace718 : 5/10/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13960542 giants#1 said:
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basically coming up together as unheralded prospects and far exceeding all expectations, at least until the foot injury for Wang.

Wang was awesome. Had 2 great years under his belt and was working towards the 3rd great season. He tried multiple comebacks with different organizations. But never really worked out.
Keith Law on Loaisiga  
Greg from LI : 5/10/2018 4:42 pm : link
Via RAB:

Loaisiga pitched at 94-96 mph in his five-inning outing, with some downhill plane to it, and even bumped a single 97. His slider was sharp at 85-87, and he threw a more curveball-shaped breaker at 82. Heíd been mostly curveball last year, so I think these are two distinct pitches, with the slider either new or just massively improved Ö His changeup came in at 86-89 and some had splitter-like bottom, while others turned over more like a straight change, but all three pitches were comfortably above-average and flashing plus Ö There are some reasons to question his ultimate role, including the delivery and his size, but thatís a starterís arsenal and more than enough feel and control right now to project him there.
RE: RE: RE: The list is long.  
Photoguy : 5/10/2018 4:44 pm : link
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.

This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.



Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....



Forgot about him. But he never had the hype coming up from the system like a lot of other names I listed. Banuelos was a can't miss prospect.



Steve White was another. I saw him in Battle Creek in 2004, and he had the goods. Tore up his shoulder or something, and never was the same.
Braunstein's Met & Yankee Minor League Reporter  
davek3698 : 5/10/2018 4:46 pm : link
Did anyone here subscribe to this? Man, I used to love getting those yellow papers in the mail every so often.
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Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 5:14 pm : link
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.



Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.



Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!



Hal is actually Harold and Hank is actually Henry.


Oh, that is much more creative.

Is the daughter Hermione?
Feels like  
dune69 : 5/10/2018 10:36 pm : link
deja vu
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