This is not the game thread.
Out of the last 18 games we have 1 loss to the Astros. Now that is awesome. Not to stir up an old argument but... NYC is a Yankee town again!!!
Even if we lose tonight we will still be tied with the Sux for best record in Baseball. Still have a long season ahead.
What I’ll this t3am do when Drury comes back? Will Andujar still start? I have all but given up on Bird. I think that Austin goes back down with Walker taking 1b full time.
Looking to the future I have to wear two pairs of shades. Ecuase its sooo bright! I would like to add a SP to this team you the deadline. I would love to get DeGrom if the Mets were willing to part but I doubt they would. Fulmer from Det s a name I like.
They have to get back in shape after those stretches and then gain confidence. Plus Montgomery and German have legit atretching out boundaries.
And as much as we are fans...its one in three minor league pitchers who reach their ceiling...maybe lower.
Add Tanaka and CC age and or vulnerability into our thinking.
We need another SP. We have $13m in cap room. At the half way mark we can afford a $20m pitcher.
We have more minor league RhP than we have slots. We can get this done. All of us will fret that we gave up prospect potential. Like we did when we traded Jesus Montero
When Drury comes back I think we send Andujar back down so he can keep playing on a daily basis and showcase Drury for possible trade bait. I would love to see us get another Starter and maybe more bullpen help. You never have enough pitching!!
When Bird gets back we can ease him back into the lineup. If anything we send Austin back down so he too can keep fresh.
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What was Judge saying as he rounded each base on the hr. Seemed the sox first baseman said something and Judge said something back and after each base???
Good question, would love to know. Hanley did preen like a peacock around the bases after his bomb, I had a feeling Judge was hollering something back at him. Didn’t seem nasty, but looked like he let out a loud whoop in Hanley’s direction
Whatever it was, great seeing so much fire from our guys like that
Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.
The job by Holder last night was so important. 2nd and 3rd with one out and he got us out of it. Put the offense in a position to rally and take the lead.
Sonny Gray, Frazier, Florial, Drury (assuming headaches go away) - you're telling me Mets hang up? No way. 3 immediate starters and a potential lottery ticket. Obviously could mix and match with Abreu, Tate, Freicer Perez, Medina, etc
Yes the Mets would 100% hang up on that offer.
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Sonny Gray, Frazier, Florial, Drury (assuming headaches go away) - you're telling me Mets hang up? No way. 3 immediate starters and a potential lottery ticket. Obviously could mix and match with Abreu, Tate, Freicer Perez, Medina, etc
Yes the Mets would 100% hang up on that offer.
Do they hang up? No. Do they take it? Also no. Three years of Sale was worth perhaps the best prospect in baseball and a Top 25 pitching prospect in Kopech, plus a couple tertiary pieces, and that was without emotional attachment or rivalry from an org that was 100% committed to a tear-down. Four and a half years of Syndergaard is worth at least that much, probably more, even with the injury considerations, and with the paucity of true aces around baseball they can get it. So yeah, Gleyber/Sheffield is the starting point value-wise, plus considerable tertiary pieces, and that's assuming the Wilpons entertain the idea of trading him at all. Throw in a premium the Yankees would have to pay because they're cross-town, and it becomes more or less a thought exercise.
I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
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Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.
Agreed, but that is the most emotion I've seen from Judge with respect to one of his accomplishments, perhaps ever. There was actually a bit of a smile.
This is true. Those two and Gary can flick their wrists toward right and hit it out. Judge should do this because they attack him up and down and away. Slapping a few to right would help. A few doubles in the corner would drop the Ks.
When Drury comes back I think we send Andujar back down so he can keep playing on a daily basis and showcase Drury for possible trade bait. I would love to see us get another Starter and maybe more bullpen help. You never have enough pitching!!
When Bird gets back we can ease him back into the lineup. If anything we send Austin back down so he too can keep fresh.
Playoffs is a different ballgame. Pitching is king. We saw it last year. We are still likely an SP short unless one of German or Sheff rises up or a pre deadline trade. Verlander at the deadline won it for the Stros and missing out on Cole was huge.
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Just to clarify, I'm less worried about the cost in prospects than the cost in dollars of a FA signing or an extension. We do have the ammo to get it done, I'm just not sure the potential targets are going to be worth the cost.
I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
Precisely. The amount of money they have is pretty much irrelevant, the amount they're willing to spend is fixed and giving 1/7th or more of it to a single starting pitcher is a problem when ultimately Judge, Sanchez and Severino will all need to be paid.
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Cmon guys, you know Judge. He would never bark at the other guys like that. He was just pumped up and saying something to himself and probably the first base coach.
Agreed, but that is the most emotion I've seen from Judge with respect to one of his accomplishments, perhaps ever. There was actually a bit of a smile.
Yeah I don’t think he was talking shit to anyone on the Sox, just hooting a bit as he rounded the bases. Wasn’t showing anyone up, just showing emotion, which was pretty cool bc he’s usually so guarded
I understand that based on his last few games this is "heresy", but trades only happen when a team sees value in it for them - - which is exactly why we haven't been able to get rid of "Bust"bury. What other options do they have?
I think Austin goes down to add Bird, and Andujar could go down to add Drury. I think they platoon Bird/Walker in a L/R combo to see if Bird can get his swing back.
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
Hank's last hurrah was the 10 year deal they gave A-Rod after he opted out. He's been given the task of watching over the horses. Lol
You mean Dillon Tate?
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
Thankfully. Hank-en-Stein a true embarassment.
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is the guy I think is one of the guys we got from Texas for Beltran. Erik Swanson good physical size too.
You mean Dillon Tate?
Tate is who is he, enigmatic but great stuff but a lot of inconsistency. Swanson was also a part of the deal (as was Nick Green, who has been pitching well too) and he has been dominating AA, albeit without the stuff that Tate has. Could be a fringey MLB guy ala Dietrich Enns, could end up something more.
Andujar is going to be tough to send down. He could use seasoning but unless he really falls off the table I'd rather he get it with the big club. Drury, Ellsbury and Frazier are all in a holding patterns with no where to play even if they were ready.
Hensley and Brackman. Schmidt better not be next on that list.
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!
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Tampa Bay cut Ty Hensley recently. Hadn't thrown in a game since 2014. Very unfortunate, extensive injury history
Hensley and Brackman. Schmidt better not be next on that list.
There was also a closer who was dominating in the minors and was supposed to take over after Rivera. But he also fell off the table. His last name was also Montgomery
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!
Hal is actually Harold and Hank is actually Henry.
This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.
With that in mind, at the trade deadline in July, do the Yanks take a risk and go after a ace level young SP? IMO, they might want to examine what's out there.
I was VERY against the Cole rumors, and was not impressed with any of the other SP rumored to be connected to the Yanks this winter. However, as there are an unusually large group of teams who look to be "tanking" and a smaller but significant group of teams who are fading quickly, perhaps the Yanks SHOULD look for match-ups.
I think that with Severino and Tanaka pretty much locks for the post-season rotation (assuming health) and Gray a decent 3rd/4th SP option in the playoffs- but only under Yankee control for this year and next, perhaps another ace is in order.
While I understand that the teams just don't deal with each other, and the price would be EXTREME, I wonder whether the Yanks should be making Syndergaard their primary trade deadline target.
He turns 26 in August, so he's not really old. He is under team control via arbitration through the 2021 season. He "fits" the Yankee profile of power arm with good secondary stuff. He has also handled the NY media relatively well (certainly better than Harvey did).
The problem, of course, would be that the Mets ownership likely does not want to help the Yanks and would probably make an outlandish ask to the Yanks. On the other hand, the Yanks have depth in the minor league system- and the Mets don't- and the Mets need a rebuild.
IMO, no one on the 25 man ML roster should be available (unless the Mets WANT to take Ellsbury), but every minor leaguer not named Sheffield should be. What do you think it would take?
God......if the Mets did that, fires would be burning outside Citi Field. Alderson would have to hire bodyguards.
This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.
Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.
This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.
Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....
Forgot about him. But he never had the hype coming up from the system like a lot of other names I listed. Banuelos was a can't miss prospect.
They and Melky Cabrera debuted together at Fenway in 2005.
Wang would be great on this team. Pre-injury, he was an innings eating, ground ball machine who worked fast.
Wang was awesome. Had 2 great years under his belt and was working towards the 3rd great season. He tried multiple comebacks with different organizations. But never really worked out.
Loaisiga pitched at 94-96 mph in his five-inning outing, with some downhill plane to it, and even bumped a single 97. His slider was sharp at 85-87, and he threw a more curveball-shaped breaker at 82. He’d been mostly curveball last year, so I think these are two distinct pitches, with the slider either new or just massively improved … His changeup came in at 86-89 and some had splitter-like bottom, while others turned over more like a straight change, but all three pitches were comfortably above-average and flashing plus … There are some reasons to question his ultimate role, including the delivery and his size, but that’s a starter’s arsenal and more than enough feel and control right now to project him there.
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Hughes had some success but not what the Yankees expected. Joba was also never the same after the injury in Texas. The killer Bs never panned out. Banuelos and Blackman had no success. But Betances has made it in the pen. Garcia, Hensley, Horne, Montgomery (closer), all went away.
This is what makes Severino so special. First SP since Pettite we have developed. First ace since Guidry.
Wang doesn't count? Damn interleague....
Forgot about him. But he never had the hype coming up from the system like a lot of other names I listed. Banuelos was a can't miss prospect.
Steve White was another. I saw him in Battle Creek in 2004, and he had the goods. Tore up his shoulder or something, and never was the same.
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I guess that is exacerbated by Hank's
continued desire to stay below the luxury tax.
Hal, not Hank. Hank's been relegated to puttering around Tampa for a decade.
Thanks for the correction. Never could keep it straight. Would have been nice if the old man had more imagination in the naming department!
Hal is actually Harold and Hank is actually Henry.
Oh, that is much more creative.
Is the daughter Hermione?