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How much does Will Hernandez need to work on his fundamental

youtoo2 : 5/10/2018 1:45 pm

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-giants-select-will-hernandez-34th-overall

Pro Football Focus is very high on him, but they said he needs to work on some fundamentals. This is a question for people who watch more gametape than I do.

Is this the kind of stuff he can improve in training camp or should we expect quite a few rookie mistakes? He is coming from a lower tier program. So the talent increase that he is facing is much larger than players from top programs. I know he did well at the Senior Bowl, but that is one game.

I expect them to have Damon Harrison go up against him in one on one drills alot and move Harrison over to face him more in scrimmages to school him as well.

1. He does not get low very often. This is likely do to be sloppy due to facing inferior talent. He will need to get low in the NFL. Even though this sounds easy, I am sure its harder than people think while playing against elite talent. NFL players are much bigger and stronger than what he faced at UTEP.

2. He has issues with not getting his hands out and gets beat. This one I think is trickier because NFL players are much faster, so you have to be in position quicker.

3. I saw references to him getting confused on blitz packages on pass plays. This is DJ Flukers achilles heal. He is a great straight ahead run blocker, but gets easily confused during stunts. I would expect teams to stunt him alot to test him.

Any other fundamentals he needs to work on?

FWIW he had the 2nd highest blocking grade

Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/10/2018 1:47 pm : link

After Wynn during the Senior Bowl practices and game.

He does have a propensity to hug guys and not keep his hands on the inside. I think the feet are there but he must refine technique

Are

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2018 1:49 pm : link

you asking if a rookie coming out of college has a lot to learn about the pro game?

The answer is yes.

I think all the points

Andy in Boston : 5/10/2018 1:52 pm : link

that you bring up are what every olineman coming into the league needs to work on. He's certainly not a perfect player, which is why he was a 2nd round draft pick.

We bored yo

Brown Recluse : 5/10/2018 1:54 pm : link

there

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2018 1:58 pm : link

is a reason why rookies struggle early... we're talking about 22-year old kids playing against 30-year old adults. There are often physical and mental (newness of their new surroundings, no longer big man on campus, advanced techniques, playbook/new scheme, etc.). Bill Walsh wrote a great book with an entire chapter on the problems rookie face.

Good news about Hernandez is the guy is built like a bulldozer and has natural leverage. But he will have a lot to learn. Playing teams like the Eagles will be an eye-opener for him.

BTW

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2018 2:00 pm : link

one of the issues with Davis Webb, for example, is he had to learn how to take snaps from under center. That's stuff that wasn't an issue years ago.

Hernandez will be a day one starter

Jay on the Island : 5/10/2018 2:14 pm : link

just like Snee but that doesn't mean there won't be a learning curve. Snee was very good during his rookie season but there were some mistakes that every rookie experiences. Despite the mistakes Hernandez should be a big upgrade over Jerry.

Really???

HoustonGiant : 5/10/2018 2:45 pm : link

Guy has great feet and instinctive hand placement. He has a lot to learn, but no more than the other top guards in this class.

His technique flaws

WillVAB : 5/10/2018 2:49 pm : link

Are of the nit picky variety. Maybe he could get a little lower but I don�t see it as a major issue. Sometimes he lets his hands get outside which can lead to holding calls. Sometimes he doesn�t move his feet well (but his feet are underrated imo).

He�s not a perfect, perennial all-pro right now but he can be once he gets acclimated with a pro program.

Depends which draft analyst you subscribe to

Beer Man : 5/10/2018 3:24 pm : link

I've read where Sy56 believes he has a lot of work to do, where as some other draft analyst believe he is NFL ready now. Probably somewhere in-between. Regardless, unless he stinks it up really bad in preseason, he will be starting at one of the G positions

RE: BTW

chopperhatch : 5/10/2018 4:16 pm : link

In comment 13960384 Eric from BBI said:

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one of the issues with Davis Webb, for example, is he had to learn how to take snaps from under center. That's stuff that wasn't an issue years ago.

Not being a prick, just looking for info, but how do you know that Eric?

Don't you actually

Doomster : 5/10/2018 4:42 pm : link

have to see him play against NFL competition, to answer that?

He will be a day one upgrade at G

Don in DC : 5/10/2018 4:53 pm : link

and will continue to get better for a few years. Great pick.

As good as he is already

David B. : 5/10/2018 5:05 pm : link

His hands need work. He needs to work on keeping them inside the defender's shoulders and punch, rather than being grabby. He's VERY powerful and that takes him a long way. He'll be a big upgrade regardless, but once he improves his hand technique, he'll be even better.
Film study on Hernandez - ( New Window )

chopperhatch

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2018 8:59 pm : link

Offense in college was shot-gun based.

chopper

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2018 9:01 pm : link

This article gives you an indication...

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2) A difficult transition awaits. In 2016, we witnessed another Cal quarterback -- No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff -- struggle to pick up an NFL offense. In Cal's system, the quarterback isn't asked to do pre-snap reads, call audibles, etc. And Webb has most likely already realized that he'll have a lot on his plate as a potential starter in the NFL someday. After all, Webb took most of his snaps from shotgun at Cal, so learning to play under center will be one of the first tasks to master.

As Eli Manning's backup, rookie Davis Webb should expect ... - ( New Window )

RE: chopper

chopperhatch : 5/10/2018 9:38 pm : link

In comment 13960748 Eric from BBI said:

Quote:

This article gives you an indication...

Quote:

2) A difficult transition awaits. In 2016, we witnessed another Cal quarterback -- No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff -- struggle to pick up an NFL offense. In Cal's system, the quarterback isn't asked to do pre-snap reads, call audibles, etc. And Webb has most likely already realized that he'll have a lot on his plate as a potential starter in the NFL someday. After all, Webb took most of his snaps from shotgun at Cal, so learning to play under center will be one of the first tasks to master.

As Eli Manning's backup, rookie Davis Webb should expect ... - ( New Window )

No no no, I meant how do you know its been fixed?