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Jonathon Hankins...does it surprise anyone

Thatís Gold, Jerry : 5/10/2018 1:58 pm
he is still unsigned? Apparently, he had a pretty good year last season but Indy is moving to a 3-4, like us, so they cut him.

No question he could help a lot of teams. Why is he unsigned?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/10/2018 2:01 pm : link
I didn't realize he was still out there. Very strange.
He signed late last year IIRC.  
MOOPS : 5/10/2018 2:06 pm : link
His asking price this year is $8M +/-.
At that price he has to find the exact fit for what he brings to the table.
He's a space eater really and there's probably limited bucks out there for that.
Asking price?  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/10/2018 2:06 pm : link
Perhaps a few guys are waiting for mini camps to finish for teams to better get an impression on need.
I have no particular expertise on this, but here goes:  
81_Great_Dane : 5/10/2018 2:07 pm : link
Not much of a pass rusher. Very good at some things, not elite at anything. Not a core building block, more of a complementary player. Not a scarce commodity, but probably wants to be paid like one.

He's probably underrated.

Teams are cautious about eating up a lot of cap space on a guy who doesn't seem to be a difference-maker.

I think he'll get a job once teams have a clearer idea what their needs are. He may have to take less money than he expected to get. At that point, I wouldn't be surprised to see him take off in a Linval Joseph-type arc and become a force. If the Pats signed him I bet he'd thrive under Little Bill.
No, it is not surprising. He did not have a good year last year.  
NYGmen58 : 5/10/2018 2:09 pm : link
In fact, he under-performed and did not live up to the 3-year $30 million contract he was given.

He had one good season (2014) and has otherwise been a mediocre DT.
He is unsigned because of the comp formula  
robbieballs2003 : 5/10/2018 2:10 pm : link
imo.
NFL has spoken  
JonC : 5/10/2018 2:11 pm : link
and it appears he'll be a late in the game addition for a dirt cheap contract.
I would love him back at the right price  
Jay on the Island : 5/10/2018 2:11 pm : link
He could compete to start at DE opposite Tomlinson. If he won the starting job the Giants would have the benefit of a healthy DL rotation with Hill, McIntosh, Mauro, and Wynn.
RE: He is unsigned because of the comp formula  
robbieballs2003 : 5/10/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13960391 robbieballs2003 said:
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Oh, my bad. I thought the date was later.
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Redskins wanted him, but he was aking for too much  
ZogZerg : 5/10/2018 2:22 pm : link
Not sure if they would still want him after the draft.
RE: RE: He is unsigned because of the comp formula  
Pete in MD : 5/10/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13960398 robbieballs2003 said:
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Oh, my bad. I thought the date was later. Link - ( New Window )

I thought it didn't matter since he was cut? I could be getting that wrong.
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christian : 5/10/2018 2:30 pm : link
Kevin Poston, despite being a major league turd got Hankins 10M last year in what amounted to a show-me deal.

Hankins is not a 10M a year player, and the Giants were aware of that. He's not a dirt cheap player either, and when Poston calms down, can probably get him a 2 year 12M type deal.
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robbieballs2003 : 5/10/2018 2:55 pm : link
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Oh, my bad. I thought the date was later. Link - ( New Window )


I thought it didn't matter since he was cut? I could be getting that wrong.


Fuck, you are correct. I hate that my brain sucks lately. Thanks. I feel like I need a slap upside my head.
Strange ...  
Beer Man : 5/10/2018 3:19 pm : link
But he is a big young run stopper. He will be picked up somewhere once the dust from the draft has settled.
I agree,  
Doomster : 5/10/2018 4:41 pm : link
he will be picked up.....

But he was way overpaid last season for what he brings to the table.....the reason he was released, was because they were going from a 3-4 to a 4-3?

They signed him after he played a 4-3 with the Giants! Duh!
maybe he just doesn't want to participate in summer camp...  
sober297 : 5/10/2018 4:45 pm : link
he's a big guy.
He has probably seen other guys coast through the summer.
He's a good big run stopper.  
FStubbs : 5/10/2018 4:49 pm : link
It is surprising he's not signed but maybe he's asking for too much.

If he ends up being cheap enough, I wouldn't mind having him back in the DL rotation.
He could be receiving offers, but rejecting them  
Milton : 5/10/2018 5:38 pm : link
Last year he was in no hurry to sign until he got an offer he liked, so the same could be happening this year. I wonder if Jacksonville has interest. Coughlin knows him well and the Jags play a 4-3.
Jets had him in,desperately need a DT  
TheMick7 : 5/10/2018 5:48 pm : link
I was very surprised hoe didn't sign w/them They still have mucho cap $$$$!
RE: He could be receiving offers, but rejecting them  
HomerJones45 : 5/10/2018 5:56 pm : link
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Last year he was in no hurry to sign until he got an offer he liked, so the same could be happening this year. I wonder if Jacksonville has interest. Coughlin knows him well and the Jags play a 4-3.
Yes, the flood of ex-Giants pouring into Jacksonville is a painful and obvious commentary of what the feelings in Jax are about our roster.
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Milton : 5/10/2018 6:10 pm : link
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Last year he was in no hurry to sign until he got an offer he liked, so the same could be happening this year. I wonder if Jacksonville has interest. Coughlin knows him well and the Jags play a 4-3.

Yes, the flood of ex-Giants pouring into Jacksonville is a painful and obvious commentary of what the feelings in Jax are about our roster.
When we kick their ass in Week 1 it'll be a more obvious commentary on our roster.
Not that happy with the way we've handled ourLinval Joseph was better.  
mack809f : 5/10/2018 6:46 pm : link
Probably Cofield as well. Never understood why we didn't give any of these guys a second contract. I guess they weren't worth the money, but if we had signed Lin Joseph we could have saved two 2nd round picks. Makes me miss Leonard Marshal and Keith Hamilton. We took William Joesoph over Ed Reid! Will Tomlinson get resigned?? Still a few years away from an answer.
Not that happy with the way we've handled our DTs  
mack809f : 5/10/2018 6:50 pm : link
Linval Joseph was better than Hankins. Cofield was a better pass rusher. Never understood why we didn't give any of these guys a second contract. I guess they weren't worth the money, but if we had signed Lin Joseph we could have saved two 2nd round picks. Makes me miss Leonard Marshal and Keith Hamilton. We took William Joseph over Ed Reid! One of our worst ever picks. Will Tomlinson get resigned?? Still a few years away from an answer.
RE: Not that happy with the way we've handled our DTs  
McNally's_Nuts : 5/10/2018 7:26 pm : link
In comment 13960626 mack809f said:
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Linval Joseph was better than Hankins. Cofield was a better pass rusher. Never understood why we didn't give any of these guys a second contract. I guess they weren't worth the money, but if we had signed Lin Joseph we could have saved two 2nd round picks. Makes me miss Leonard Marshal and Keith Hamilton. We took William Joseph over Ed Reid! One of our worst ever picks. Will Tomlinson get resigned?? Still a few years away from an answer.


Ed Reed was drafted in 2002.

William Joseph was picked in 2003.
RE: RE: Not that happy with the way we've handled our DTs  
madgiantscow009 : 5/11/2018 2:16 am : link
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Linval Joseph was better than Hankins. Cofield was a better pass rusher. Never understood why we didn't give any of these guys a second contract. I guess they weren't worth the money, but if we had signed Lin Joseph we could have saved two 2nd round picks. Makes me miss Leonard Marshal and Keith Hamilton. We took William Joseph over Ed Reid! One of our worst ever picks. Will Tomlinson get resigned?? Still a few years away from an answer.



Ed Reed was drafted in 2002.

William Joseph was picked in 2003.


exactly, giants should have traded our 2003 1st and 3rd for the Ravens 2002 1st round pick and selected Ed Reed. No foresight though.
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