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YANKEE28 : 5/10/2018 2:34 pm
Surprising
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Surprised a little  
Beer Man : 5/10/2018 3:21 pm : link
But even if he is to rebound from his 2017 performance, he was never going to start in front of Barkley
tough year for him, though with that scheme runners had no prayer.  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 3:24 pm : link
but Gallman is basically the same type of player but bigger, better, faster, stronger.
All these shots at Reese  
Jay in Toronto : 5/10/2018 3:33 pm : link
I recall the pick was generally liked at the time and based on his early performance some of us thought we got a bit of a steal.

I did.

As a fan, of course, I'm sorry it didn't work out.
Taken a pick ahead of Jordan Howard  
Anakim : 5/10/2018 3:37 pm : link
What could have been....
RE: All these shots at Reese  
arcarsenal : 5/10/2018 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13960489 Jay in Toronto said:
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I recall the pick was generally liked at the time and based on his early performance some of us thought we got a bit of a steal.

I did.

As a fan, of course, I'm sorry it didn't work out.


The benefit of being a fan.... hindsight.

Easy to criticize everything when we already know how it turned out or how it has gone after a couple of years.
He'll probably clear waivers  
David B. : 5/10/2018 3:50 pm : link
Unless some team is trying to stick it to them.
RE: He'll probably clear waivers  
Anakim : 5/10/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13960507 David B. said:
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Unless some team is trying to stick it to them.


Highly doubtful. This isn't like the Jake Ballard situation where Ballard actually produced.
RE: ...  
njm : 5/10/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13960447 Eric from BBI said:
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We're real thin at RB in terms of camp bodies. Door just opened for some guys this weekend.


That might get Robert Martin an invite to fall camp. When you average 5 ypc behind Rutgers OL you've at least got a shot at the practice squad.
RE: tough year for him, though with that scheme runners had no prayer.  
HomerJones45 : 5/10/2018 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13960484 Victor in CT said:
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but Gallman is basically the same type of player but bigger, better, faster, stronger.
True enough.
Just switching up that 16' draft a bit  
crackerjack465 : 5/10/2018 3:53 pm : link
We draft MT over Shep, Howard over Perkins and instead of Apple we end up with Tunsil... This offense would be in a lot better shape.

1. Tunsil
2. Michael Thomas
3. Darian Thompson
4. B.J. Goodson
5. Jordan Howard
6. Jerrell Adams
RE: Donnel Pumphrey  
allstarjim : 5/10/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13960470 SHO'NUFF said:
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come on down!


That would be interesting!

Obviously, Saquon Barkley isn't going to run the ball 500 times next year. Gallman is primarily a between-the-tackles runner, as is J-Stew. Having that speedy running back with receiving skills that can make plays outside and in space seems to be an open position on this roster. It's certainly not Jalen Simmons, nor is it Darkwa, who, despite the recent surgery (which was just to remove a plate) would be ready to go for training camp.

If Perkins would be healthy early, it would seem he would sort of fit the mold. While he doesn't have elite speed, he has pretty good quickness, agility, and the requisite receiving ability to be in that role. But Pumphrey would likely be a stronger option because of his speed and short-area quickness.
RE: Just switching up that 16' draft a bit  
Victor in CT : 5/10/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 13960512 crackerjack465 said:
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We draft MT over Shep, Howard over Perkins and instead of Apple we end up with Tunsil... This offense would be in a lot better shape.

1. Tunsil
2. Michael Thomas
3. Darian Thompson
4. B.J. Goodson
5. Jordan Howard
6. Jerrell Adams


Their offense still would have sucked. THe scheme is unworkable unless you have Aaron Rodgers
Surprising  
Motley Two : 5/10/2018 4:01 pm : link
Is it though?
RE: How many guys had jobs lined up last season  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/10/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13960448 Chris684 said:
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and then went out and pissed them away, at least for the moment, if not for good.

Perkins
Apple
Flowers
Thompson
Wing

Depressing.

Aren't Apple and Thompson still (at least nominally) considered starters?
Ranaan says it's a 6 month injury  
bluepepper : 5/10/2018 4:09 pm : link
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@JordanRaanan
The way this may work out: Perkins tore his pec. Thatís generally a 6-month injury. Unlikely he gets claimed given this. Chance he ends up on reserve/NFI with #Giants and his season will be over.


I guess this makes sense if he wouldn't be back until November.
Opens of a spot for Orleans?  
giantsFC : 5/10/2018 4:13 pm : link
pec tear surgery. no chance he makes an impact until maybe end of year. Plus he wasn't that good last year.
Orleans Darkwa maybe?
Good he blows  
BigBlue4You09 : 5/10/2018 4:13 pm : link
And is injured. Surprised people are surprised
RE: Does  
Boy Cord : 5/10/2018 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13960432 Eric from BBI said:
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he go to IR with a non-football injury? I'm not sure about that.


Also, who goes to IR in May with a torn pec?
RE: RE: Does  
Boy Cord : 5/10/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13960529 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 13960432 Eric from BBI said:


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he go to IR with a non-football injury? I'm not sure about that.





Also, who goes to IR in May with a torn pec?


Disregard my post. I wasn't taking into consideration the severity of the tear.
very devastating to how the giants were up til now  
micky : 5/10/2018 4:22 pm : link
with all the failure of draft picks in recent years..with exception to a few. But the majority
RE: Also,  
GeofromNJ : 5/10/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 13960453 crackerjack465 said:
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just want to remind everyone that the very next pick was bears RB Jordan Howard, who a lot on here (including myself) wanted.
I, too, wanted Howard. And this was based on nothing more than YouTube videos of college performance. You gotta wonder what Reese was looking at.
RE: I think the bigger concern than Reese's picks  
DonQuixote : 5/10/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13960467 Go Terps said:
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is how many of them haven't become better football players once they become Giants.


This is the thing Terps. I do not get the sense that we have been developing players...meaning they do not rise up after getting here. That's coaching, 100%, and I hope we can do better.
They might not let Jerry draft ever again  
ghost718 : 5/10/2018 4:47 pm : link
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He  
AcidTest : 5/10/2018 4:52 pm : link
tore his pec. This has nothing to do with his talent. He was poor last year, but the offense was dreadful. We had no OL. And he had a good rookie season. I'd be stunned if anyone claims him off waivers.
RE: I think the bigger concern than Reese's picks  
santacruzom : 5/10/2018 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13960467 Go Terps said:
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is how many of them haven't become better football players once they become Giants.


Definitely. Guys like Beckham who show early promise and manage to build upon -- or even simply maintain -- their early performance are relatively rare here. I'm hoping they figure that shit out.
He tore his pec  
ZogZerg : 5/10/2018 5:02 pm : link
he wasn't going to help the team this year.
If he was healthy he would still be on the team.
RE: RE: Why the surprise?  
FStubbs : 5/10/2018 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13960450 Tesla said:
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Reese 5th round pick which means he probably should have been an UDFA. 90 yards in 41 carries last season. I don't think he'll be missed.



Funny, cause most of BBI was raving about the pick when it was made. But, derp, Reese made the pick so it must have been awful.


Remember, anything positive that happened through the Reese era was really Accorsi or Gettleman. Reese never did anything positive for the team, and all the things that went wrong on the Accorsi era wasn't really Accorsi, it was Reese. Eli's rookie year being on a 6-10 team and Roethlisberger being on a 15-1 team was Reese's fault. So was Tim Carter, Joe Montgomery, and Ron Dayne.
RE: All these shots at Reese  
kinard : 5/10/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13960489 Jay in Toronto said:
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I recall the pick was generally liked at the time and based on his early performance some of us thought we got a bit of a steal.

I did.

As a fan, of course, I'm sorry it didn't work out.


Count me as a guy who liked the pick at the time. By game 6 last year, I had seen enough...
Think this braintrust has a handle on a lot  
TMS : 5/10/2018 5:35 pm : link
of things we lost over the years. Till they fail I will go with their decisions. DG, Abrams are proven, think Shurmur fits that mold as well. We will see. Go Giants.
RE: can the giant injury woes  
BigBlue4You09 : 5/10/2018 5:42 pm : link
In comment 13960440 sundayatone said:
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be starting already?


Can you suck a fart out my ass after I 💩?
You can't play running back afraid  
WillieYoung : 5/10/2018 5:45 pm : link
he ran looking for a place to land softly last year. New staff making a statement--
men only this year.
I assume that if he goes on IR that he remains our property.  
yatqb : 5/10/2018 5:57 pm : link
So, not so terrible for us or him.
Not surprised by the cut or the see the Reese nut huggers  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/10/2018 6:44 pm : link
Back either. Marvin Austin agrees with you guys, he was great. Nobody find late four talent better. For one year.
Seems weird to call people out when you can't even form sentences.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/10/2018 6:46 pm : link
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He did well for half a year behind an awful line  
jcn56 : 5/10/2018 6:54 pm : link
and then did awful behind a lousy line.

Would have at least been good to have him through camp for a tryout. Wonder if there's something administrative here like the IR situation above, or whether the Giants weren't happy that he suffered a NFI or the timing of it.
I really liked Perkins  
Boatie Warrant : 5/10/2018 7:33 pm : link
I was hoping we would have him for this season in Shurmers offense. I think he would have been a great back up.

I hope he heals and finds a spot on some AFC team.
Pec tears take a long time to heal. No sense waiting. Move on.  
Ivan15 : 5/10/2018 7:51 pm : link
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Perkins, Darkwa, Vereen, Marshall, Harris, Pugh, Richburg  
Jimmy Googs : 5/10/2018 8:42 pm : link
Hart, JPP, Kennard, Casillas, DRC and Wing (Flowers-tbd).

Game 1 players last year in Dallas that seem to have gone with the wind...

He looked like a good 5th round pick......  
Doomster : 5/10/2018 9:48 pm : link
Not great speed, but he did have a wiggle that made guys miss....he ran behind a bad line last year, and was successful....this year the line went from bad to worse....

I thought the line actually blocked better in the running game in the second half of the season, when the personnel was finally changed.....unfortunately, Perkins wasn't around....

But the biggest mistake, was was Mac just handing him the job at the start of the season.....maybe this made Perkins think he was better than he actually was, and maybe he didn't work hard in the off season to earn that spot....

Without the pec injury, he might have competed in camp....but we have 3 strong runners......whoever the 4th back is may spend more time picking splinters out of his butt, than actually playing....

Pec tear  
UESBLUE : 5/10/2018 9:58 pm : link
is a devastating injury for a RB whose job it is to hold into the ball as guys twice his size try to rip it away. Pec and BIceps have a synergistic relationship. Perkins didnt have the body for an NFL RB unfortunately
...  
christian : 5/10/2018 10:31 pm : link
The kid got hurt to a degree he'll miss most of the season. This is the about sucking or Reese. It's about an injury and a pragmatic decision.
RE: ...  
T-Bone : 5/10/2018 10:53 pm : link
In comment 13960785 christian said:
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The kid got hurt to a degree he'll miss most of the season. This is the about sucking or Reese. It's about an injury and a pragmatic decision.


Of course itís about Reese! He shouldíve known heíd suffer a pec injury two years ago!

Seriously... some shit you CAN make up.
couldn't break a tackle to save his life  
jamalduff123 : 5/10/2018 10:57 pm : link
after some flashes his rookie year, I was appalled by his play last year. I know it was a bad team, but I never saw a back get taken down so easily by arm tackles.

Gallman ran much better than him.

I wish the kid well, but not sorry he's off the team.
Drafts  
Dragon : 5/11/2018 1:47 am : link
Are the biggest shots in the dark in all sports,

We draft MT over Shep, Howard over Perkins and instead of Apple we end up with Tunsil... This offense would be in a lot better shape.

1. Tunsil
2. Michael Thomas
3. Darian Thompson
4. B.J. Goodson
5. Jordan Howard
6. Jerrell Adams

Tunsil, has not done anything to this point to warrant his high draft pick.
Thompson came with the limited physical tools thatís been proven true.
Goodson would you really draft him again not sure why?
Adams what has he done that even uninjured he is still on this team?

To me the real issue still seems to be the true lack of any real advancement in our draft picks NFL ability from year to year excluding OBJ. He seems to be the one player they could not limit or tarnish his true ability. Iíve always said the draft is about providing players for the coaches to develope we are Iím not sure if terrible is the right word but we very close to that in this process.
GOOD RIDDANCE!!!  
ArcadeSlumlord : 5/11/2018 9:40 am : link
good thing he finished his degree, he is gonna need it. Did NOT have that dog mentality that is required to make it in the NFL. Reese spent the last half decade drafting mama's boys and goodie tooshoo's instead of hard thug nasties and hog mollies. We need bigger faster stronger thumpers out there, MEN. Not WIMPS like Perkins. GTFO!

I am down with Gettleman.
Perkins had chances and never produced  
PatersonPlank : 5/11/2018 10:18 am : link
He was clearly going to be the 4th back and cutting him was the right move.

Having said that, I have trouble blaming Reese (or any GM) for missing on a 5th round choice. They miss a lot more than hit. Also remember people here, including me, loved this choice. Analysts thought he was a steal.
This guy was really down on Perkins last year..  
fredgbrown : 5/11/2018 10:24 am : link
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Some of the comments on this thread are ridiculous.  
Brown Recluse : 5/11/2018 10:32 am : link
So now Perkins is a wimp? Can't break tackles? Gallman is better? How does one come to these conclusions when he clearly displayed he could absolutely break tackles and play hard in 2016? Are you personally offended that Perkins did not live up to your expectations during his sophmore year?

The guy was injured last year. For those too dense to make logical connections...when a player is injured, they often cannot perform at the same level as when they are healthy.

Make sense?

I think its fair to say that Perkins has plenty of ability to play in the NFL, but he needs to figure out how to stay healthy first and foremost.

Great jump-cut  
CT Charlie : 5/11/2018 1:22 pm : link
but always to his left side.
I said it weeks ago  
Bluesbreaker : 5/12/2018 2:06 pm : link
Be lucky to make the roster .....
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