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CMicks3110 : 5/10/2018 10:36 pm
I think the Giants are in reasonably good shape for developing a strong and long term (3-4 year) core. The two major free agents we have over the next few years are Beckham and Collins, both of whom I expect to be re-signed to long-term contracts. Therefore I view a core of Barkley, Beckham, Engram, Shepard, Solder, Hernandez, Tomlinson, Harrison, Hill, Vernon, Carter, Ogletree, Collins, Jenkins. All players are 30 or younger, and are (or will be) signed for at least the next three years. We will be able to add to this core via free agency and the draft. So say by 2020, we will have these 14 players (5 proven pro bowlers, 1 potential superstar, 2 near pro bowl vets, and several high potential starters). So in 2020, we will have this core plus 2 new draft classes, and 2 free agency classes and the entire core will still have an average age in the 27 range. We have a window developing here. BUTTTTTT, QB is the big ?, if Webb/Lauletta can develop into a good starter, I think we can really have something going. The thing that's very exciting is that the core has some really really high end game changing talent.
Big difference when you get 4/5 contributors in a draft  
George from PA : 5/11/2018 5:03 am : link
Vs. 1/2.....4 controlled years means a ton to the cap which allows you to sign an extra player!

Even if you lose them, you get comp. picks....

Having good drafts is only way to maintain a competitive roster.
George  
joeinpa : 5/11/2018 7:09 am : link
And as we learned, bad drafts can deplete a roster very quickly

It's a lot  
RollBlue : 5/11/2018 9:19 am : link
easier to get good players in the draft when drafting 2nd in each round. IMO, good coaching and maintaining a reasonably healthy roster is more important. Most drafts only yield 2-3 players - if i'm wrong, point me to the team that gets 4-5 every year.
RE: It's a lot  
WillVAB : 5/11/2018 9:52 am : link
In comment 13960920 RollBlue said:
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easier to get good players in the draft when drafting 2nd in each round. IMO, good coaching and maintaining a reasonably healthy roster is more important. Most drafts only yield 2-3 players - if i'm wrong, point me to the team that gets 4-5 every year.


The top teams around the league right now are the teams who have drafted the best in recent years (exception Pats). Go look at the drafts of the Eagles, Jags, Vikings, Chiefs, Saints, Steelers, etc for the last 4-5 years.

It’s not about hitting on every pick, it’s about out performing the competition, ie hitting on more players/getting more elite talent than the other teams in a given draft.
Giants were getting,  
Doomster : 5/11/2018 10:04 am : link
one or two players per draft, and not resigning any of them. until maybe this year or the next....

We need the drafts to be strong for the next several seasons...

And yes, we will need a successor or Eli......is he on this roster? I doubt it.....
Just check out the offense alone  
est1986 : 5/11/2018 10:52 am : link
Eli - under contract this year and next year
Solder- just arrived, signed a big four year deal
Hernandez - just arrived, rookie contract
Beckham - will get big long term deal
Shepard - has two years left in rookie contract
Engram - has three years left on rookie contract
Saquon - just arrived, rookie contract

Not bad at all if you ask me... now the defense is another story, the defensive side of the ball is where I expect more of a “rebuild” over the next two years or so...

Collins - will get big long term deal
Harrison - 3 years left on deal, unless he falls off a cliff he’s a Giant
Vernon - 3 years left but can be cut without the crazy hit after this year
Jenkins - 3 years left and I believe has been paid most if not all his guaranteed
Ogletree - 4 years left but can be cut fairly easily after this year
Tomlinson - 3 years left on rookie contract
Carter - just arrived, rookie contract
Hill - just arrived, rookie contract
Apple - two years left on rookie deal, can be 5th year option’d too

If the defense plays well I imagine they will stay together and if they don’t well then this thing can be fairly easily blown up, putting it back together after that will be the hard part...


Eli not part of the Giants core?  
Jimmy Googs : 5/11/2018 12:21 pm : link
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RE: Giants were getting,  
lax counsel : 5/11/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13960959 Doomster said:
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one or two players per draft, and not resigning any of them. until maybe this year or the next....

We need the drafts to be strong for the next several seasons...

And yes, we will need a successor or Eli......is he on this roster? I doubt it.....


I agree. I think though for this core to really make a meaningful impact, it's going to be predicated on the qb position. If the Giants can successfully replace Eli and one of Webb or Lauletta evolve into a top 12ish NFL qb, this core has a real chance to sustain success. If not, and these two are below average starters or worse, the Giants will be stuck in the worst place in the NFL, consistent mediocrity.
I know this past drafts looks promising  
Bramton1 : 5/11/2018 12:50 pm : link
And we wtalk abut how much better Gettleman was than Reese, but let's remember Reese's forst draft. Ross, Smith, Alford, Deossie, Boss, Koets, Johnson, and Bradshaw. That was a pretty good draft too.

Even if a bunch of these kids work out, the name of the game is consistency. And that's where Reese failed.
Bramton1, it was a very good draft......  
Doomster : 5/11/2018 4:37 pm : link
10 years ago......but what have you done for me lately?
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