UDFA Question?

Making a roster eventually?
Making a roster in the first year?
Being on a roster for 2 years, 4 years?

It varies of course, but it's usually around 2 per team each year, give or take.

And being a key contributor if not solid starter.

In comment 13960890 Ivan15 said:

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Making a roster eventually? Making a roster in the first year? Being on a roster for 2 years, 4 years?

Then Mark Herzlich is a smashing success 1st ballot HOF'er ffs.

Ugh Maras.

Every once in a while, someone delites.

Usually, more fanfare beforehand....then it turns out.

For that matter, similar with the drafted players. They are all great addition before, during and right after draft....on game day, not as much.

have a few make the team each year. Hope one of these Oline guys pan out

In comment 13960905 George from PA said:

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Every once in a while, someone delites. Usually, more fanfare beforehand....then it turns out. For that matter, similar with the drafted players. They are all great addition before, during and right after draft....on game day, not as much.

Yes it is usually the well known UDFA's that almost never pan out but unknown players like Seubert, Cruz, etc surprise.

Back in the day when the NFL Draft went more than 7 rounds.

Granted in those years there were fewer teams (sometimes a lot fewer) but here are some Giants' finds after RD 7:

8th Round
Jesse Armstead LB
Willie Williams DB
Billy Ard G
Andy Headen LB
Myron Guyton DB
Lee Rouson RB
Kent Graham QB

9th Round
Byron Hunt LB
Pat Hughes LB
Ali Haji Sheikh K

10th Round
Rich Baldinger OT

11th Round
George Martin DE
Ernie Koy RB

12th Round
Herb Welch S
Tom Blanchard P
Matt Stover K*
Mike Landsford K*

13th Round
Spider Lockhart S

14th Round
Brian Kelley LB

19th Round
Buck Buchanan DE*

20th Round
Homer Jones WR

* Never played for the Giants

Again, there were fewer teams so some of those players would have been drafted in the first 7 rounds if there were 32 teams and comp picks when they were coming out. However, many of them still would have been UDFA in a 7 round draft.

Also a few notes about the 1963 draft (even though it was before my time).

The Giants had no 1st RD pick and their 3rd RD pick never played pro ball.

Eight of their twenty picks signed with the AFL and none of the top 19 picks was on the team after 3 seasons.

But at the end of that crappy draft the Giants drafted Buck Buchanan in the 19th RD and Homer Jones in the 20th.

If just one of our FA signings comes close to those two or any of the players listed above, I'll be happy.

All Giants Drafts - ( New Window )

My best guess is that it's interior OL, RBs, WRs, and safeties who are most likely to stick as UDFA.

In comment 13961148 Milton said:

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My best guess is that it's interior OL, RBs, WRs, and safeties who are most likely to stick as UDFA.

Also FB is an obvious one.

Who were undrafted free agents that contributed. I'll start...
Rich Seubert
Percy Ellsworth
Victor Cruz
Chad Wheeler
Brett Jones
Greg Comella

before the 1st game of the 2016 season, I heard a stat that there were 480 first or second draftees among them, and 481 undrafted.

...before coming the Giants as a free agent.
p.s.--my goal is for us to put together a list of these guys for the last 25-30 years and then let's see how it breaks down by position.

In comment 13961155 Milton said:

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Who were undrafted free agents that contributed. I'll start... Rich Seubert Percy Ellsworth Victor Cruz Chad Wheeler Brett Jones Greg Comella

I think Brett Jones was more like a standard UFA. IIRC, he was signed before the draft, but I could be mistaken.

S James Butler
LB Chase Blackburn

Some pretty big names on it.
Link - ( New Window )

G Jason Whittle
TE Jake Ballard
FB Henry Hynoski

LB Spencer Paysinger
S Will Hill
TE Larry Donnell
CB Kevin Dockery

Cameron Wake

In comment 13961155 Milton said:

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Who were undrafted free agents that contributed. I'll start... Rich Seubert Percy Ellsworth Victor Cruz Chad Wheeler Brett Jones Greg Comella

Actually MIlton - Jim in Tampa started. ; )

In comment 13962211 short lease said:

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In comment 13961155 Milton said: Quote: Who were undrafted free agents that contributed. I'll start... Rich Seubert Percy Ellsworth Victor Cruz Chad Wheeler Brett Jones Greg Comella Actually MIlton - Jim in Tampa started. ; )

Actually Milton - I am wrong - you did start. Jim had another criteria.

In comment 13962211 short lease said:

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In comment 13961155 Milton said: Quote: Who were undrafted free agents that contributed. I'll start... Rich Seubert Percy Ellsworth Victor Cruz Chad Wheeler Brett Jones Greg Comella Actually Milton - Jim in Tampa started. ; )

No offense to Jim in Tampa, but he went back way too far and didn't list any players from the period of time that is much more relevant to the question at hand. This isn't about the guys who were 12th round picks in 1975, it's about the guys who went undrafted in 2005 (and what positions did they play?).

Derek Engler