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New York Giants Rookie Mini-Camp: Day 1 Tweets

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 7:26 am


Friday, May 11

11:30 a.m. Pat Shurmur Available

11:45 a.m. -12:30 p.m. Player Interviews

3:35 p.m. Practice
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RE: Is it significant that most of the tryout players are in the last half  
arcarsenal : 5/11/2018 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13961089 Ivan15 said:
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of the alphabet?

Maybe they went through their phone book and all the guys in the first half of the list were trying out somewhere else.😂


More proof of how clueless Gettleman is if we're being honest.
RE: ...  
Beer Man : 5/11/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13961043 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
‏Verified account @DDuggan21
38s39 seconds ago

Shurmur said Perkins was going to miss significant time with the pec injury and they wanted the roster spot.
Pectoral surgery has about a six month recovery window. He wouldn't be back until October/November at the earliest.
RE: RE: Is it significant that most of the tryout players are in the last half  
mfsd : 5/11/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13961159 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 13961089 Ivan15 said:


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of the alphabet?

Maybe they went through their phone book and all the guys in the first half of the list were trying out somewhere else.😂



More proof of how clueless Gettleman is if we're being honest.


I remain an admirer of your work arc, well done
RE: RE: RE: Is it significant that most of the tryout players are in the last half  
arcarsenal : 5/11/2018 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13961178 mfsd said:
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In comment 13961159 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 13961089 Ivan15 said:


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of the alphabet?

Maybe they went through their phone book and all the guys in the first half of the list were trying out somewhere else.😂



More proof of how clueless Gettleman is if we're being honest.



I remain an admirer of your work arc, well done


Forgot we had WR Amba Etta-Tawo  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/11/2018 2:39 pm : link
He could be sleeper to make the team. Guy has talent and we need another WR.
RE: RE: RE: Is it significant that most of the tryout players are in the last half  
Klaatu : 5/11/2018 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13961178 mfsd said:
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In comment 13961159 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 13961089 Ivan15 said:


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of the alphabet?

Maybe they went through their phone book and all the guys in the first half of the list were trying out somewhere else.😂



More proof of how clueless Gettleman is if we're being honest.



I remain an admirer of your work arc, well done


You need to subscribe to his newsletter.
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robbieballs2003 : 5/11/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 13961123 Anakim said:
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Matt Lombardo
‏Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
1m1 minute ago

Saquon Barkley on the biggest difference from #PennState and the #Giants: Its the playbook. But, I learn things like this really quick. In college, we ran out of the shotgun all the time, here we run out of the I, but its similar.



Which I hated. Fuck the RPO



Huh?



I hate the run pass option


I got that. I'm not sure whether you meant Penn St. or the Giants. I ask because I have seen people incorrectly use RPO for other things that aren't RPOs. I am not criticizing. I just wanted clarification.

Plus, why do you hate RPOs? The Eagles rode that shit to a Super Bowl.
RE: 11 personnel doesn't tend itself to a lot of lead blocker situations  
SHO'NUFF : 5/11/2018 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13961093 giants#1 said:
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But if you want some actual stats:

2017
Shotgun: 460 passing atts
Under Center: 110 passing atts
Darkwa Shotgun: 37 atts
Darkwa Under Center: 134 atts
Gallman Shotgun: 36 atts
Gallman Under Center: 75 atts
Vereen Shotgun: 37 atts
Vereen Under Center: 36 atts
Perkins Shotgun: 9 atts
Perkins Under Center: 26 atts
Total: 30.5% atts from shotgun (119 atts shotgun; 271 under center)

2016
Shotgun: 526 passing atts
Under Center: 73 passing atts
Darkwa Shotgun: 16 atts
Darkwa Under Center: 14 atts
Jennings Shotgun: 84 atts
Jennings Under Center: 96 atts
Vereen Shotgun: 20 atts
Vereen Under Center: 13 atts
Perkins Shotgun: 48 atts
Perkins Under Center: 64 atts
Total: 47.3% atts from shotgun (168 atts shotgun; 187 under center)

84% of Eli's passes the last 2 seasons have been from shotgun.

So yes, the Giants ran it quite a bit from shotgun under McAdoo, especially in 2016. For a quick comparison, the Pats ran it out of shotgun just 56 times in 2017 or 13.3% of their total runs (randomly picked the Pats).


(numbers per pro-football-reference)


I bet you the 2017 numbers were affected by the 4 games Spagnuolo coached and tried to call a more balanced attack.
First team O-line at the first mandatory mini camp practice:  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/11/2018 3:04 pm : link


LT-Solder LG- Hernandez C- Jones RG- Omameh RT- Wheeler/Flowers.

RE: First team O-line at the first mandatory mini camp practice:  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13961220 Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx said:
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LT-Solder LG- Hernandez C- Jones RG- Omameh RT- Wheeler/Flowers.


Nope.
He said...  
Dodge : 5/11/2018 3:29 pm : link
mandatory mini camp, not rookie mini camp.
Brett Toth has a two-year military commitment to fulfill first.  
Red Dog : 5/11/2018 3:40 pm : link
You won't likely see him in any camp until he has his required military service out of the way.
RE: He said...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13961263 Dodge said:
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mandatory mini camp, not rookie mini camp.


Why would he post that in this thread? Dumb.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 3:43 pm : link

Dan Duggan
‏Verified account @DDuggan21
56s57 seconds ago

Fifth-round pick RJ McIntosh isnt particiating in rookie minicamp. Hes watching from the sideline.
Some  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 3:53 pm : link
videos are in the feed of the DL's hitting the sled.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 3:55 pm : link

Ryan Dunleavy
‏Verified account @rydunleavy
1m1 minute ago

True to form, Dave Gettleman is out at practice hovering over hog mollies on OL. #giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 3:58 pm : link

Tom Rock
‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday
1m1 minute ago

UDFA Jawill Davis makes a one-handed grab. Wearing no. 80 just like the patron saint of udfa wrs.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 4:10 pm : link

Dan Duggan
‏Verified account @DDuggan21
18s18 seconds ago

Kyle Lauletta air-mailed a few deep throws in 1-on-1s. Maybe just trying to put those arm strength questions to rest.
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kelsto811 : 5/11/2018 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13961294 Eric from BBI said:
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Tom Rock
‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday
1m1 minute ago

UDFA Jawill Davis makes a one-handed grab. Wearing no. 80 just like the patron saint of udfa wrs.


I think this guy has a real shot with the lack of depth at WR. He was really impressive at the college all star practices I saw and teams were all over him in regards to interviews. Here's hoping...
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 4:20 pm : link

Art Stapleton

@art_stapleton

CB Grant Haley already making an impression. Very smooth in coverage, nifty PBU on Kyle Lauletta pass on in-cut to WR Alonzo Russell#NYG
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 4:22 pm : link

Matt Lombardo
‏Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
27s27 seconds ago

Nasty cutback by Saquon Barkley in the backfield, before reversing course behind the line of scrimmage and gaining 10 in 11-on-11. #Giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 4:26 pm : link

New York Giants
‏Verified account @Giants
21s22 seconds ago

🚨🚨🚨Undrafted safety (and NJ native) Sean Chandler with an INT at rookie minicamp! 🚨🚨🚨
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 4:31 pm : link

Patricia Traina

@Patricia_Traina

Lauletta has thrown a couple deep balls with good velocity. He did just have a receiver let it go through his hands.
Chandler  
Phil in LA : 5/11/2018 4:32 pm : link
intercepted Sirk.
Holy crap, there's football going on.  
Brown Recluse : 5/11/2018 4:33 pm : link
.
The reports on Lauletta's velocity  
Jay on the Island : 5/11/2018 4:37 pm : link
is very encouraging.
...  
BleedBlue : 5/11/2018 4:37 pm : link
Barkley has pretty like Calves lol...
can see why he is so strong
ok  
BleedBlue : 5/11/2018 4:41 pm : link
i am not horny for his calves

meant to say pretty BIG calves
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 4:42 pm : link

Matt Lombardo
‏Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
20s21 seconds ago

Lauletta intercepted by Orion Stewart. #Giants
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 4:46 pm : link

New York Giants
‏Verified account @Giants
37s37 seconds ago

Undrafted WR Jawill Davis getting in on the action with a pair of big catches! 🎯🎯
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Amtoft : 5/11/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13961335 Eric from BBI said:
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Matt Lombardo
‏Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
20s21 seconds ago

Lauletta intercepted by Orion Stewart. #Giants


This looks to be off a tip form rookie OLB Zo Carter
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:01 pm : link

Matt Lombardo
‏Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
42s43 seconds ago

Grant Haley breaks up a deep pass from Kyle Lauletta on the final play of todays practice. #Giants
Haley off to a great start  
Jay on the Island : 5/11/2018 5:02 pm : link
Hopefully he can keep this up versus the veterans.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:13 pm : link

Dan Duggan
‏Verified account @DDuggan21
5m5 minutes ago

True to his word, Barkley is the last player on the field after practice (with tryout QB John OKorn catching passes).
Barkley doing his Hal Moore impersonation...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:16 pm : link

Tom Rock
‏Verified account @TomRock_Newsday
38s39 seconds ago

After about 10 minutes working after practice, Saquon Barkley and QB John O'Korn were the last two to jog off the field. As they approached the steps to the building, Saquon slowed down and let O'Korn get a few paces ahead of him. Saquon was literally the last one off the field.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:27 pm : link

Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
2m2 minutes ago

1. Saquon Barkley looks the part. Watching the way he cuts, spins, runs and catches the ball is impressive. #Giants #RookieMinicamp
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:28 pm : link

Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
39s40 seconds ago

2. Kyle Lauletta isn't especially imposing (size + build). He also doesn't have a strong arm. More like a Drew Brees type with the way he throws and operates. (Note: Not saying he's Drew Brees) #Giants #RookieMinicamp
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:30 pm : link

Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
29s29 seconds ago

3. It was very windy out. Made for a difficulty day of throwing. Punters Jacob DeMaio and Taylor Morton were booming the ball with the wind. #Giants #RookieMinicamp
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:33 pm : link

Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
47s47 seconds ago

4. Will Hernandez moves pretty well for a 327-pound guard. He doesn't look huge though because as 6-2 he's on the short side for an OL. #Giants #RookieMinicamp
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 5:35 pm : link

Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
25s25 seconds ago

5. Undrafted free agent safety Sean Chandler (Temple) and cornerback Aaron Davis (Georgia) look like they can play a little bit. #Giants #RookieMinicamp
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Klaatu : 5/11/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13961362 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
25s25 seconds ago

5. Undrafted free agent safety Sean Chandler (Temple) and cornerback Aaron Davis (Georgia) look like they can play a little bit. #Giants #RookieMinicamp


Well, God knows we need the help back there.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 5/11/2018 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13961361 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
47s47 seconds ago

4. Will Hernandez moves pretty well for a 327-pound guard.


The kind of hard-hitting and new information you can expect on the Giants beat.
RE: ok  
Klaatu : 5/11/2018 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13961334 BleedBlue said:
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i am not horny for his calves

meant to say pretty BIG calves


It's okay. We won't judge you here.
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Klaatu : 5/11/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13961281 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
‏Verified account @DDuggan21
56s57 seconds ago

Fifth-round pick RJ McIntosh isnt particiating in rookie minicamp. Hes watching from the sideline.


Doomed already.
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est1986 : 5/11/2018 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13961364 Klaatu said:
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Jordan Raanan
‏Verified account @JordanRaanan
25s25 seconds ago

5. Undrafted free agent safety Sean Chandler (Temple) and cornerback Aaron Davis (Georgia) look like they can play a little bit. #Giants #RookieMinicamp



Well, God knows we need the help back there.


Well, God knows Raanan cant evaluate well no matter how close he gets.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 6:54 pm : link

Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
1h1 hour ago

DT R.J. Mcintosh, the fifth-round pick from Miami, has what the Giants are calling a "mild medical condition'' and did not practice today. He should be able to resume activities soon.
some  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/11/2018 7:03 pm : link
notes from Schmeelk...
http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Practice-report-from-Giants-rookie-minicamp-511/8235ed2c-482a-4ae9-a22f-07494914a89d - ( New Window )
RE: some  
Del Shofner : 5/11/2018 7:10 pm : link
In comment 13961387 Eric from BBI said:
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notes from Schmeelk... http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Practice-report-from-Giants-rookie-minicamp-511/8235ed2c-482a-4ae9-a22f-07494914a89d - ( New Window )


"Six-four punter Jacob DeMaio from Weber State is the tallest punter I have ever seen here with the Giants."

I guess Schmeelk is too young to have seen Dave Jennings, who was 6'4".
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Anakim : 5/11/2018 9:28 pm : link
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Matt Lombardo
‏Verified account @MattLombardoNFL
1m1 minute ago

Saquon Barkley on the biggest difference from #PennState and the #Giants: Its the playbook. But, I learn things like this really quick. In college, we ran out of the shotgun all the time, here we run out of the I, but its similar.



Which I hated. Fuck the RPO



Huh?



I hate the run pass option



I got that. I'm not sure whether you meant Penn St. or the Giants. I ask because I have seen people incorrectly use RPO for other things that aren't RPOs. I am not criticizing. I just wanted clarification.

Plus, why do you hate RPOs? The Eagles rode that shit to a Super Bowl.


Penn State's RPO, which they used often. It was horrible. First off, Penn State's O-Line couldn't block a grandma and to have that much time elapse while McSorley decides to keep it or not meant that there was at least defensive player in the backfield every single snap. Second, whenever McSorley did decide to give the ball to Saquon, Saquon didn't have a ton of room to run.


And yes, the Eagles did use the RPO effectively, but I think we would all benefit from under center, Power-I football. Much easier on the eyes (and the players) and it would allow Saquon to know in advance that he's going to run with it and plan and foresee accordingly.
Flowers go out play your best football  
Bluesbreaker : 5/12/2018 2:18 pm : link
and Win a spot on the line !
Holy crap that photo of Barkley his legs look like tree trunks chiseled from granite can't wait to see him play !
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