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NFT: Yankees vs Athletics . Saturday, Domingo German killing it

DennyInDenville : 5/12/2018 1:24 pm
Didn't see a thread

German off to a great stArt. Sevy lite? Legit 2/3 starter? Wow .

Let's see.

Now you see, we might have a great pitcher in German
El Gary and Hicks go back to back  
DennyInDenville : 5/12/2018 1:29 pm : link
Hicks making me eat my words last night a little
SANCHEZ AND HICKS!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 1:29 pm : link
BACK TO BACK!!
Any more word on Sheffield's stiff shoulder?  
Dave in Buffalo : 5/12/2018 1:45 pm : link
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RE: Any more word on Sheffield's stiff shoulder?  
DennyInDenville : 5/12/2018 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13961803 Dave in Buffalo said:
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Other then being added to the 7 day DL not that I've heard
Heard it was mild  
RAIN : 5/12/2018 1:55 pm : link
Stiffness and precautionary.
And it's 3-2 OAK  
NYerInMA : 5/12/2018 2:06 pm : link
not a fun series thus far.
I hope somewhere in the minors we have better pitchers  
xman : 5/12/2018 2:09 pm : link
then Sheffield
Fuck this ump  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:12 pm : link
in his ump ass
Heavy imploding  
cokeduplt : 5/12/2018 2:12 pm : link
Now
That was definitely strike 3  
NYerInMA : 5/12/2018 2:16 pm : link
But the first base ump fucked it up. So of course the next pitch brings in two more runs.
We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 2:18 pm : link
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RE: I hope somewhere in the minors we have better pitchers  
Ryan in Albany : 5/12/2018 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13961818 xman said:
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then Sheffield


Someone knows nothing about Yankees top pitching prospect.

Grammar could use some help too.
Could the A's be any luckier  
Dave in Buffalo : 5/12/2018 2:21 pm : link
wtf
RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
bluesince56 : 5/12/2018 2:22 pm : link
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel
RE: RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:24 pm : link
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel



i said it last night and people crucified me on the game thread...

after sevy we have all question marks. i think CC will be okay in playoffs but he gives you 5 innings.

tanaka is hot and cold

gray sucks

german is a big question mark, has control issues big time.

we BADLY need a SP for top end of rotation.

on the opposite end the yankees ABs have been horrible this series. austin up 2-0 bases juiced and swings at 2 consecutive balls.

sanchez and andujar have ZERO plate discipline

didi is great but looks lost as hell
RE: RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13961831 bluesince56 said:
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel

No it isn't. We pitched fantastic recently and in the post season last year. There was a stretch where our starters had an ERA of 2...
Shocking a rookie would have a rough outing on his second go  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:26 pm : link
after doing well his first time out. What a season ending tragedy we're witness to today...
Not to mention this shitty fucking homeplate umpire  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:26 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:27 pm : link
nobody is panicking or saying its a tragedy but the yanks have struggled to get to pitchers early...even during the sick run we went on.

this yankees the last two games looks like the team that went 9-9
RE: Not to mention this shitty fucking homeplate umpire  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:28 pm : link
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omg the ump is TERRIBLE.

last night the plate guy was horrible too
RE: RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 2:28 pm : link
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel


Yep.
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Ryan in Albany : 5/12/2018 2:29 pm : link
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel




i said it last night and people crucified me on the game thread...

after sevy we have all question marks. i think CC will be okay in playoffs but he gives you 5 innings.

tanaka is hot and cold

gray sucks

german is a big question mark, has control issues big time.

we BADLY need a SP for top end of rotation.

on the opposite end the yankees ABs have been horrible this series. austin up 2-0 bases juiced and swings at 2 consecutive balls.

sanchez and andujar have ZERO plate discipline

didi is great but looks lost as hell


Now do the Red Sox.

You can the exact same thing about their rotation. They've got Sale and a bunch of questions.
RE: RE: RE: RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:32 pm : link
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel




i said it last night and people crucified me on the game thread...

after sevy we have all question marks. i think CC will be okay in playoffs but he gives you 5 innings.

tanaka is hot and cold

gray sucks

german is a big question mark, has control issues big time.

we BADLY need a SP for top end of rotation.

on the opposite end the yankees ABs have been horrible this series. austin up 2-0 bases juiced and swings at 2 consecutive balls.

sanchez and andujar have ZERO plate discipline

didi is great but looks lost as hell



Now do the Red Sox.

You can the exact same thing about their rotation. They've got Sale and a bunch of questions.



i agree sox do too, but im taking their rotation over ours at it currently stands.

gray is really bad. german is a much bigger question than pomeranz


sevy=sale
porcello>tanaka
price>gray
We just need Gray and Tanaka  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:33 pm : link
to get back to form. As long as they do that as the season wears on, there's nothing to complain about on this team.
Balls are too fast and too much movement for home plate umps  
xman : 5/12/2018 2:34 pm : link
to consistently make the correct call.
RE: We just need Gray and Tanaka  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13961851 adamg said:
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to get back to form. As long as they do that as the season wears on, there's nothing to complain about on this team.


yea i agree.

truth is im not too worried about tanaka, he is hot and cold but wen on he is good. gray imo is shit.
ok boys  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:35 pm : link
lets chip away!!!
Gray's been around long enough and done well enough  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:38 pm : link
to have earned some credit. Verlander wasn't lights out early last year either. Gray seems like he's getting better. Two 6 IP 2 R outings before his last one.

And don't sleep on Monty.

And ALL RISE!
...  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:38 pm : link
man he is special

first off, that high school stat line?!? holy shit, he ran the school.

kid is a star
RE: RE: RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
BigBlueShock : 5/12/2018 2:39 pm : link
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel




i said it last night and people crucified me on the game thread...

after sevy we have all question marks. i think CC will be okay in playoffs but he gives you 5 innings.

tanaka is hot and cold

gray sucks

german is a big question mark, has control issues big time.

we BADLY need a SP for top end of rotation.

on the opposite end the yankees ABs have been horrible this series. austin up 2-0 bases juiced and swings at 2 consecutive balls.

sanchez and andujar have ZERO plate discipline

didi is great but looks lost as hell

Stop freaking lying. You weren’t getting killed because you said we need a SP and you know it. You got killed because you want to make 100 changes to the team after they had lost one freaking game. Trade guys, bench guys, change the order, etc. You’re overreacting to a game that is constantly going through ups and downs. It’s a long season, it is a roller coaster. You don’t run out and make trades, change the batting order, etc every time the team goes through a time where it isn’t perfect.

But the biggest reason you got killed is because you think the Yanks can go out and get and ace SP for “a pair of prospects”, lol. You are clueless as to how expensive a top of the rotation arm would be. It’s fine to want to run out and add a pitcher but you’d better be willing to pay a severe price for it because a pair of minor leaguers isn’t getting it done.
Didi!  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:41 pm : link
Get hot please!
Whoa.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 2:42 pm : link
Didi snapped his 0-for streak!
RE: RE: RE: RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:42 pm : link
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Agree. This is the Yanks Achilles heel




i said it last night and people crucified me on the game thread...

after sevy we have all question marks. i think CC will be okay in playoffs but he gives you 5 innings.

tanaka is hot and cold

gray sucks

german is a big question mark, has control issues big time.

we BADLY need a SP for top end of rotation.

on the opposite end the yankees ABs have been horrible this series. austin up 2-0 bases juiced and swings at 2 consecutive balls.

sanchez and andujar have ZERO plate discipline

didi is great but looks lost as hell


Stop freaking lying. You weren’t getting killed because you said we need a SP and you know it. You got killed because you want to make 100 changes to the team after they had lost one freaking game. Trade guys, bench guys, change the order, etc. You’re overreacting to a game that is constantly going through ups and downs. It’s a long season, it is a roller coaster. You don’t run out and make trades, change the batting order, etc every time the team goes through a time where it isn’t perfect.

But the biggest reason you got killed is because you think the Yanks can go out and get and ace SP for “a pair of prospects”, lol. You are clueless as to how expensive a top of the rotation arm would be. It’s fine to want to run out and add a pitcher but you’d better be willing to pay a severe price for it because a pair of minor leaguers isn’t getting it done.


100 changes?!?

i want to add a SP.

move torres up some in lineup

drop didi some in lineup

how is that 100 changes?
how is any of that insane?
RE: RE: RE: RE: We need some pitchers in the worst way.  
Jay on the Island : 5/12/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13961865 BigBlueShock said:
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But the biggest reason you got killed is because you think the Yanks can go out and get and ace SP for “a pair of prospects”, lol. You are clueless as to how expensive a top of the rotation arm would be. It’s fine to want to run out and add a pitcher but you’d better be willing to pay a severe price for it because a pair of minor leaguers isn’t getting it done.


That seems to be common around here. Just take a look at what it cost Boston to get Sale or the amount the Cubs gave up for Quintana who isn't even a #1 SP.
Didi with the timely steal  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:43 pm : link
Come on Gian
RE: ...  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13961840 BleedBlue said:
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nobody is panicking or saying its a tragedy but the yanks have struggled to get to pitchers early...even during the sick run we went on.

this yankees the last two games looks like the team that went 9-9


Dude you are such a fucking moron. Top to bottom, one of the dumbest posters Ive read briefly. From your lack caps, to your shitty comparisons, to your lack of logic, you fucking suck as a poster you meatball.

TWO GAMES?! Would you just fucking listen to yourself?
RE: Didi with the timely steal  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:44 pm : link
In comment 13961870 adamg said:
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Come on Gian



kid made a great play on GS.

didi would have prob been on third if that ball didnt bounce right back to catcher lol. knocking him in would be nice
And for the 100th time  
BigBlueShock : 5/12/2018 2:44 pm : link
David Price is one of the very worst pitchers in baseball. And he’s a gutless coward. Please stop using him as some example of how much better the Red Sox rotation is than the Yanks. It’s completely ruining any chance for people to take you seriously
RE: And for the 100th time  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13961873 BigBlueShock said:
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David Price is one of the very worst pitchers in baseball. And he’s a gutless coward. Please stop using him as some example of how much better the Red Sox rotation is than the Yanks. It’s completely ruining any chance for people to take you seriously



never said he was so good and i agree he is a pussy but doesnt change the fact that he matches up against gray who i cannot stand and i think is horrible....
Dude just stop posting  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:46 pm : link
you're fuckign spamming the board.
...  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:48 pm : link
feels good to be getting a bunch of runs before the 7th lol
We've been giving up too many runs to the fucking A's.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 2:49 pm : link
6 runs in the 5th inning to this lineup? Come on.
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chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 2:50 pm : link
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David Price is one of the very worst pitchers in baseball. And he’s a gutless coward. Please stop using him as some example of how much better the Red Sox rotation is than the Yanks. It’s completely ruining any chance for people to take you seriously




never said he was so good and i agree he is a pussy but doesnt change the fact that he matches up against gray who i cannot stand and i think is horrible....


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BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:52 pm : link
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David Price is one of the very worst pitchers in baseball. And he’s a gutless coward. Please stop using him as some example of how much better the Red Sox rotation is than the Yanks. It’s completely ruining any chance for people to take you seriously




never said he was so good and i agree he is a pussy but doesnt change the fact that he matches up against gray who i cannot stand and i think is horrible....





who told you to post a pic of your boyfriend?

walker gonna have a shot to tie the game here, he always seems to come up big in big spots
Oh  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 2:54 pm : link
My God.....
RE: Oh  
adamg : 5/12/2018 2:55 pm : link
In comment 13961884 chopperhatch said:
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My God.....
relentless.... fucking eh
ahh  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 2:55 pm : link
just missed
ok walker!  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 3:00 pm : link
pretty damn good AB.

lets see if andujar can come up here and tie this.
be selective!
Walker's clutchness is a nice variable  
adamg : 5/12/2018 3:01 pm : link
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Haha  
BigBlueShock : 5/12/2018 3:02 pm : link
Did they give Didi the ball from his base hit when he got back to the dugout? Nice
Andujar baby!  
adamg : 5/12/2018 3:04 pm : link
Tied it up
RE: Andujar baby!  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 3:06 pm : link
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Tied it up


if he improves his plate discipline he will be a very good hitter
TIED UP!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 3:06 pm : link
Andjuar the man.
RE: Haha  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 3:09 pm : link
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Did they give Didi the ball from his base hit when he got back to the dugout? Nice


Wow, did they really? Thats hilarious.
Missing out on Cole  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/12/2018 3:10 pm : link
Is looming large right now. Even with a bit of an over pay this is a significantly better team with him at the top of the rotation.
RE: Missing out on Cole  
Ryan in Albany : 5/12/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13961901 Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx said:
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Is looming large right now. Even with a bit of an over pay this is a significantly better team with him at the top of the rotation.


If we had Cole right now, we wouldn't have Gleyber.
RE: Missing out on Cole  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 3:27 pm : link
In comment 13961901 Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx said:
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Is looming large right now. Even with a bit of an over pay this is a significantly better team with him at the top of the rotation.


We didnt miss out....they wanted the moon and stars.


Oh and by the way....IT'S STILL MAY
Huge missed opportunity there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 3:38 pm : link
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RE: Huge missed opportunity there.  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 3:42 pm : link
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To me that is the main difference between the way we were playing during the 17 and one streak and the way that we have played the last couple games. During the streak, we would have gotten at least one run in that situation. The streak was a combination of us playing well and being fortunate. We do have to capitalize on those situations if we are going to be serious about winning the World Series this year.
.  
theking : 5/12/2018 3:44 pm : link
Is it me or does Aaron Boone have absolutely no fire to him ? I feel like someone forces him to argue balls and strikes instead of him genuinely wanting to.
Happy that Chad Green  
dune69 : 5/12/2018 3:45 pm : link
is a Yankee
Yeah he's really  
Mr. Nickels : 5/12/2018 3:48 pm : link
Killing it... My fantasy team
RE: RE: Missing out on Cole  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/12/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13961904 Ryan in Albany said:
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Is looming large right now. Even with a bit of an over pay this is a significantly better team with him at the top of the rotation.



If we had Cole right now, we wouldn't have Gleyber.


They came off of Gleyber supposedly but wanted an augmented package. Lets say it was Gray, Frazier and Andujar. Are we a better team with a shut down Cole instead of those 3? Of course we are. We have an embarrassment of riches at hitting and Bird ,Drury arent even back yet.
RE: RE: RE: Missing out on Cole  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 4:03 pm : link
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Is looming large right now. Even with a bit of an over pay this is a significantly better team with him at the top of the rotation.



If we had Cole right now, we wouldn't have Gleyber.



They came off of Gleyber supposedly but wanted an augmented package. Lets say it was Gray, Frazier and Andujar. Are we a better team with a shut down Cole instead of those 3? Of course we are. We have an embarrassment of riches at hitting and Bird ,Drury arent even back yet.


We cant say that because thats absolutely not what it was either. It was probably some vombo of Andujar, Frazier, Sheffield/Adams, plus a couple others. No way would they have given us Cole for Andujar, Frazier and Gray.
Yanks were carried by their starting pitching  
Bgaff : 5/12/2018 4:05 pm : link
during the playoff run last year and for most of this season. Everyone is susceptible to poor outings at times, and Tanaka for example, has shown an ability to dial things up when he needs to. The incessant bitching around here that the Yankees MUST add a top of the line starter is unbearable. As others have said, it will cost the moon. Furthermore, this team is positioned beautifully to contend for years, yet some want to cash in our chips as if the window is closing any time soon. This team can win multiple titles.

Finally, look around the league - Aces do not grow on trees. There was a record number of home runs last year. Other teams would love to have our rotation, depth and minor league talent.
I think Didi could play in the NBA  
xman : 5/12/2018 4:06 pm : link
he is a natural flopper in the field
Stanton REALLY pisses me off.  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 4:10 pm : link
He just swung at the exact same pitch out of the strike zone 3 fucking times in a row. How many times do you have to see a low slider before you say to yourself, "I cant hit that pitch....nobody can hit that pitch?" Just infuriating. Reminds me of Soriano in the '03 playoffs.
Never like bringing Chapman in with  
xman : 5/12/2018 4:12 pm : link
a tie game
What's with this 95-96mph BS?  
guitarguybs12 : 5/12/2018 4:18 pm : link
Chapman doesn't look right.
wow  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:18 pm : link
well we are in deep shit here...
chapman has been really the only major bright spot in bullpen and he shitting the bed here.


also whoever is arguing for cole, dont. aparrently yankee fans on this board HATE the idea of giving up prospects to fill a major hole.

that being said, we had some missed ops this game and could have countered the poor pitching today. gonna have to try and get out of this!

Sanchez  
Somnambulist : 5/12/2018 4:19 pm : link
The catcher who can't catch, strikes again.
is anyone  
MookGiants : 5/12/2018 4:20 pm : link
in the dugout paying attention to the radar readings for Chapman?

If they are he should be out of the game immediately. He's topping out at 97, something is not right with him today and no reason to make him pitch through it.
GET HIM OUT OF THE FUCKING GAME  
MookGiants : 5/12/2018 4:21 pm : link
YOU MORONS. IT'S MAY 12TH. He is throwing 4-5 mph lower on every pitch. Get him out, now
Surprised we won that.  
Mad Mike : 5/12/2018 4:26 pm : link
Looked like it wasn't crystal clear enough to overturn. What an escape.
WOW  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:26 pm : link
great fucking play!!!


now go win it in the 9th!!!
got very lucky to get out of that  
micky : 5/12/2018 4:26 pm : link
that was too close to call
Wow!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 4:27 pm : link
Now score a run.
Phew, lucky! Concerned about Chapman though...  
guitarguybs12 : 5/12/2018 4:27 pm : link
Chapman's Average FB Today: 96.62mph

Looking at the Pitch F/X data he hasn't had an inning with a sub 97mph velocity since Spring 2012.
Brooks Baseball Pitch F/X - ( New Window )
Great throw  
Jay in Toronto : 5/12/2018 4:29 pm : link
but good tag by Sanchez
RE: Phew, lucky! Concerned about Chapman though...  
MookGiants : 5/12/2018 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13961962 guitarguybs12 said:
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Chapman's Average FB Today: 96.62mph

Looking at the Pitch F/X data he hasn't had an inning with a sub 97mph velocity since Spring 2012. Brooks Baseball Pitch F/X - ( New Window )


I still have no idea why they had him pitch through it. Maybe he's not actually hurt, but something was clearly wrong with him today and no reason to make him push through that on may 12th
AJ Cole coming in for 10th  
micky : 5/12/2018 4:32 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Missing out on Cole  
Big_Blue_in_the_Bronx : 5/12/2018 4:34 pm : link
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Is looming large right now. Even with a bit of an over pay this is a significantly better team with him at the top of the rotation.



If we had Cole right now, we wouldn't have Gleyber.



They came off of Gleyber supposedly but wanted an augmented package. Lets say it was Gray, Frazier and Andujar. Are we a better team with a shut down Cole instead of those 3? Of course we are. We have an embarrassment of riches at hitting and Bird ,Drury arent even back yet.



We cant say that because thats absolutely not what it was either. It was probably some vombo of Andujar, Frazier, Sheffield/Adams, plus a couple others. No way would they have given us Cole for Andujar, Frazier and Gray.


Thats not better than what they got from Hou?
leadership  
MookGiants : 5/12/2018 4:35 pm : link
was absolutely a big problem on the defense last year, and blaming it on just McAdoo is absolute nonsense.

They had MANY players on defense who flat out quit. That's a leadership problem and not just from the head coach
RE: leadership  
micky : 5/12/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13961973 MookGiants said:
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was absolutely a big problem on the defense last year, and blaming it on just McAdoo is absolute nonsense.

They had MANY players on defense who flat out quit. That's a leadership problem and not just from the head coach




OOOPSIE!! LOL
,,,  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:40 pm : link
geez...gotta throw a strike bum
BP cannot throw  
section125 : 5/12/2018 4:40 pm : link
strikes. Cole throws a 94 mph FB for strike yet keeps throwing breaking balls for balls...
AJ Cole is a failuRE as  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 4:40 pm : link
A big league pitcher. Sorry, but he just isnt any good.
,....  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:41 pm : link
lowrie will bunt
wow  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:42 pm : link
surprised. would love a Double play here
Maybe doesn't practice bunting  
xman : 5/12/2018 4:43 pm : link
but you take the best bat out of their hands
RE: Maybe doesn't practice bunting  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13961988 xman said:
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but you take the best bat out of their hands


yea i suppose.

davis been killing us though. i dunno, ground ball is a doublke play here
Lol,  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 4:44 pm : link
Watch, now he goes on a tear as our best reliever making me look bad. Hahaha, Id be ok with it tho.
WOW  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:45 pm : link
got off to a horrible start then 6 straight pitches, two Ks.

nice bounce back. please finish it and please finish it in bottom of 10.
Jesus  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 4:46 pm : link
As bad as he looked with the first two batters, he has looked just as good with the last two batters.

Come on one more!
wowo  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 4:48 pm : link
nice recovery
Hell of a job, Cole.  
Ryan in Albany : 5/12/2018 4:51 pm : link
End this MF now.
Unlucky  
dune69 : 5/12/2018 4:54 pm : link
Gleyber
judge is going to end this  
micky : 5/12/2018 4:57 pm : link
.
Strike two to Gardner.  
section125 : 5/12/2018 4:58 pm : link
Singleton says it has plenty of plate. Overhead view confirms it did not have the corner despite what Kenny said.
Two strike outs in one  
xman : 5/12/2018 5:03 pm : link
AB for Judge
RE: Strike two to Gardner.  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 13962011 section125 said:
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Singleton says it has plenty of plate. Overhead view confirms it did not have the corner despite what Kenny said.


I agree that "plenty" is a stretch, but I was ok with it. Pitcher made a great pitch. Def borderline.
RE: RE: Strike two to Gardner.  
section125 : 5/12/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13962020 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13962011 section125 said:


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Singleton says it has plenty of plate. Overhead view confirms it did not have the corner despite what Kenny said.



I agree that "plenty" is a stretch, but I was ok with it. Pitcher made a great pitch. Def borderline.


Great pitch if you are the pitcher. If he is calling that all day, it is forgivable.

Just like strike one on Sanchez there. 1st pitch was a ball, next was same place and a strike. Next pitch was a ball a touch lower.
Alright!  
Mad Mike : 5/12/2018 5:24 pm : link
Neil Walker, en fuego!.
mmm  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 5:24 pm : link
as i mentioned earlier! Walker comes up in big spots!
We needed that  
dune69 : 5/12/2018 5:25 pm : link
Mr Walker!!
Nee Dubs  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 5:25 pm : link
Does it again. Wow. Didnt see that coming a few weeks ago.
Good job by Hicks to  
section125 : 5/12/2018 5:25 pm : link
walk and then by Walker to smoke that 1st pitch.
RE: mmm  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 5:25 pm : link
In comment 13962042 BleedBlue said:
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as i mentioned earlier! Walker comes up in big spots!


Yea, youre the only one who pointed that out.

You are really the worst.
Neil Walker walks off  
dpinzow : 5/12/2018 5:26 pm : link
Another comeback win for the yanks
Thank you Walker!!!!!!  
Ryan in Albany : 5/12/2018 5:26 pm : link
Now I can go to dinner happy!
Walker is awesome  
adamg : 5/12/2018 5:27 pm : link
late in games.
WALKOFFFFFF!!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 5:27 pm : link
.
RE: RE: mmm  
BleedBlue : 5/12/2018 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13962048 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13962042 BleedBlue said:


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as i mentioned earlier! Walker comes up in big spots!



Yea, youre the only one who pointed that out.

You are really the worst.


dude i wasnt looking for credit, i was simply stating i said it earlier. thought it was funny that my comment come true.

jesus, do you have to be a douchebag all the time? you must be real popular at home
I thought Walker would be gone by the All Star break  
arniefez : 5/12/2018 5:29 pm : link
but after reading the reports about Drury he might be an important player all year.
Chopperhatch  
Jay in Toronto : 5/12/2018 5:36 pm : link
Please do us a favor.

Diss each of our pitchers.

(Don't forget Kahnle and Warren and Montgomery.

;)

Drury hit a GS last night  
xman : 5/12/2018 5:39 pm : link
and I think a double too
Shout out to AJ Cole  
dune69 : 5/12/2018 5:51 pm : link
I was ready to DFA after the first two batters.

Also, Sanchez made an incredible catch on a ball bounced in the dirt by Chapman with the bases loaded. Not sure how he did it saved the game. That pitch was screaming and Sanchez reaction was unbelievable.
Chapman only reaching  
section125 : 5/12/2018 5:55 pm : link
96/97 is still cause for concern.
Boone said in the postgame  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/12/2018 6:05 pm : link
that Chapman had a fingernail issue.
RE: Chopperhatch  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 6:12 pm : link
In comment 13962062 Jay in Toronto said:
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Please do us a favor.

Diss each of our pitchers.

(Don't forget Kahnle and Warren and Montgomery.

;)


Hahahahahaha....right? Weird how a switch just seemed to turn on for him. Was throwing tailing fastballs and shitty spinners. Then all of a sudden hes dotting 94 and snapping off 84 mph sliders located perfectly. I was fairly impressed.

To be fair I corrected myself immediately when he started turning it on. But when they flashed his 11 ERA and then threw what? 6 straight balls? Combined with his previous outing I was like 'fuck this guy.'
Aaron John Bah Boone  
xman : 5/12/2018 6:15 pm : link
pulled a rabbit out of the hat today
xman  
arniefez : 5/12/2018 6:33 pm : link
no double but yes a GS. He's 3 for his last 14 with 9 K's after the GS. He tried yellow tinted glasses last night to help him in night games and said they did help. He's still got trouble with blurring especially under the lights. He played the field in both games yesterday so thats a good sign I guess. Doesn't sound good that he still has blurred vision at this point though. His rehab ends Tuesday. My guess is that they'll shut him down for a week and start the 20 day rehab clock again after that.
Anyone who tries to make a case that baseball managers  
arniefez : 5/12/2018 6:35 pm : link
matter should be shown Aaron Boone as exhibit A that anyone who the players don't hate can do it.
RE: Anyone who tries to make a case that baseball managers  
BigBlueShock : 5/12/2018 6:38 pm : link
In comment 13962096 arniefez said:
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matter should be shown Aaron Boone as exhibit A that anyone who the players don't hate can do it.

Wtf? Will you go away? Unbelievable...
I love it  
BigBlueShock : 5/12/2018 6:46 pm : link
Boone has been absolutely hammered by mouthbreaters like arniefez that don’t actually watch the games all year. Every single time something isn’t going good, Boone is an idiot! But when they win (I don’t have to tell you that they have the best record in all of baseball) “ah, anybody can do that job!”. Fucking assclowns. And yes, I realize that arniefez is one of the very worst posters on BBI, so probably just best to ignore him. But I like reminding people of how stupid they are anyways
There is an audience that might prefer a 'poor poster'  
xman : 5/12/2018 7:04 pm : link
who denigrates a player or manager rather then a poster that bullies or insults a fellow poster. I appreciate comments 'right or wrong'. But I find it troubling when insults are thrown at fellow posters. But hey that is only my prejudice. Carry on
RE: Aaron John Bah Boone  
mfsd : 5/12/2018 7:07 pm : link
In comment 13962081 xman said:
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pulled a rabbit out of the hat today


Many others have said this before, but managers are a lot smarter or a lot dumber depending on how well their pitchers pitch. Boone looked good today, in no small way bc Green and Betances were sharp, Chapman pulled off his magic escape with Gardy’s help, and some new guy pitched 2 scoreless in extras
RE: There is an audience that might prefer a 'poor poster'  
BigBlueShock : 5/12/2018 7:13 pm : link
In comment 13962115 xman said:
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who denigrates a player or manager rather then a poster that bullies or insults a fellow poster. I appreciate comments 'right or wrong'. But I find it troubling when insults are thrown at fellow posters. But hey that is only my prejudice. Carry on

Well yeah, of course, because you fall in the “poor poster” category. It’s no surprise you’d like that side better.
RE: RE: There is an audience that might prefer a 'poor poster'  
chopperhatch : 5/12/2018 7:19 pm : link
In comment 13962122 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13962115 xman said:


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who denigrates a player or manager rather then a poster that bullies or insults a fellow poster. I appreciate comments 'right or wrong'. But I find it troubling when insults are thrown at fellow posters. But hey that is only my prejudice. Carry on


Well yeah, of course, because you fall in the “poor poster” category. It’s no surprise you’d like that side better.



Hahahaha.
RE: Chapman only reaching  
Matt M. : 5/12/2018 7:22 pm : link
In comment 13962074 section125 said:
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96/97 is still cause for concern.
It's not a concern in one outing. He hit triple digits just the other night.
No surprise on your rebuttal  
xman : 5/12/2018 7:23 pm : link
put I ask you to rethink your behavior and modus operandi when your passion overtakes your etiquette and you cyber bully posters. Its impolite
RE: RE: Chopperhatch  
Jay in Toronto : 5/12/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 13962079 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 13962062 Jay in Toronto said:


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Please do us a favor.

Diss each of our pitchers.

(Don't forget Kahnle and Warren and Montgomery.

;)




Hahahahahaha....right? Weird how a switch just seemed to turn on for him. Was throwing tailing fastballs and shitty spinners. Then all of a sudden hes dotting 94 and snapping off 84 mph sliders located perfectly. I was fairly impressed.

To be fair I corrected myself immediately when he started turning it on. But when they flashed his 11 ERA and then threw what? 6 straight balls? Combined with his previous outing I was like 'fuck this guy.'


Yah I saw that. I hope the announcers' point that he hadn't pitched for almost 2 weeks was responsible for his early pitches.
RE: No surprise on your rebuttal  
BigBlueShock : 5/12/2018 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13962127 xman said:
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put I ask you to rethink your behavior and modus operandi when your passion overtakes your etiquette and you cyber bully posters. Its impolite

Be a better poster and you’ll have no worries. I’ve been around here a long time, I used to try to reason with stupid. It didn’t work.

Now, please, become a better poster for the sake of us all. Pretty please? With a cherry on top?

Polite enough?
was out at the game with the kids for bat day  
Stu11 : 5/12/2018 7:43 pm : link
a couple of things:
-The wind definitely started blowing in from left around the 4th or 5th inning, knocked down 2 balls I thought were out- Andujar and Judge.
-we were not in great seats to see balls and strikes but the HP ump seemed to have a tiny strike zone for much of the game no?
- sick job by the pen besides the streaks of wildness in the 9th and 10th, no hits from the 6th inning on
Since you have been doing this a long time I am curious  
xman : 5/12/2018 8:22 pm : link
if you started with this aggressive behavior as a style or did it slowly morph? Doesn't make for a nice atmosphere and certainly you would never do it in person face to face. Somehow the internet encourages this form of expression. I imagine there is some jury involved with your thinking that manages to differentiate good posts from poor ones.

Certainly there here are different qualities of posts. You make some astute points at times but why wash them away with mean spirited comments ? Aren't we on the same side? Yankee fans Giant fans BBi fans?

I once suggested to Eric that the last Friday each Month we should have a shit fest where we can let anything fly. Total ghetto insanity and pandemonium of insults. That way we can all vent.

In the meantime I'll work on my intelligence
Was Boone or Chapman  
mitch300 : 5/12/2018 8:27 pm : link
Asked about his decreased speed today.
Broken finger nail for Chapman  
arniefez : 5/12/2018 8:36 pm : link
seemed to be the issue today. Hopefully.
As far as Boone goes  
arniefez : 5/12/2018 8:39 pm : link
I'll take him over Girardi and his uptight atmosphere. But if any of you think that it takes some kind of special skill to manage a baseball team Aaron Boone is proof you don't. In MLB you just need good players and to get out of the way.
As manager "Just keep the 5 guys that like you  
xman : 5/12/2018 9:02 pm : link
away from the 5 guys undecided." Billy Martin
In other former Yankee news  
terz22 : 5/12/2018 9:09 pm : link
Chase Headley DFA'd. Yikes. Looks like we got rid of him at the right time.
RE: RE: Chapman only reaching  
section125 : 5/12/2018 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13962125 Matt M. said:
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In comment 13962074 section125 said:


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96/97 is still cause for concern.

It's not a concern in one outing. He hit triple digits just the other night.


What happened the other night is irrelevant. It only takes one pitch to hurt a shoulder, elbow, hip, knee.. a 5 or 6 mph drop is significant - ask Tommy Kahnle.

I suppose the finger nail was the problem. But 101 to 96 is disconcerting. Bad grip or painful.
RE: As far as Boone goes  
section125 : 5/12/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13962159 arniefez said:
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I'll take him over Girardi and his uptight atmosphere. But if any of you think that it takes some kind of special skill to manage a baseball team Aaron Boone is proof you don't. In MLB you just need good players and to get out of the way.


Well if it takes no special skill to be a MLB manager, you'd be hired tomorrow.

Girardi knows a lot more about baseball than Boone will likely ever know, but Boone seems to be learning quickly.
Isn't Boone 3rd generation baseball player?  
xman : 5/12/2018 10:08 pm : link
If so that's a lot of baseball right there. Imagine breakfast lunch and dinner the talk about the nuances to the game. So I don't know if Girardi has forgotten more baseball knowledge then Boone knows is appropriate thinking.

As to Boone being a quick learner I hope so . Is it because he learned not to use Buckle up its Betances for two innings?
RE: Isn't Boone 3rd generation baseball player?  
dpinzow : 5/12/2018 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13962177 xman said:
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If so that's a lot of baseball right there. Imagine breakfast lunch and dinner the talk about the nuances to the game. So I don't know if Girardi has forgotten more baseball knowledge then Boone knows is appropriate thinking.

As to Boone being a quick learner I hope so . Is it because he learned not to use Buckle up its Betances for two innings?


Yes...

Ray Boone (grandfather)
Bob Boone (father)
Bret Boone (brother)

This idea that Aaron Boone is a character from Idiocracy when it comes to his baseball knowledge just isn't true...he's not Girardi but very knowledgable in the game in his own way
I'll take Boone over Girardi any day  
arniefez : 5/12/2018 10:22 pm : link
Of course he's played and been around baseball his whole life. But anyone else from ESPN could manage this Yankee team too. Baseball manager in 2018 is not a difficult job. You either have the players or you don't.
Love the assinine comments evaluating baseball managers  
Stu11 : 5/12/2018 10:28 pm : link
when you have absolutely no idea what is going on behind the scenes which is most of the job...
Managers are like wives  
xman : 5/12/2018 11:06 pm : link
you love them at first and years later its a divorce.

I'd take a great player aka Willie Mays over a great manager aka Joe McCarthy. But these opinions are always debatable.
RE: Since you have been doing this a long time I am curious  
Ryan in Albany : 5/13/2018 5:49 am : link
In comment 13962154 xman said:
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if you started with this aggressive behavior as a style or did it slowly morph? Doesn't make for a nice atmosphere and certainly you would never do it in person face to face. Somehow the internet encourages this form of expression. I imagine there is some jury involved with your thinking that manages to differentiate good posts from poor ones.

Certainly there here are different qualities of posts. You make some astute points at times but why wash them away with mean spirited comments ? Aren't we on the same side? Yankee fans Giant fans BBi fans?

I once suggested to Eric that the last Friday each Month we should have a shit fest where we can let anything fly. Total ghetto insanity and pandemonium of insults. That way we can all vent.

In the meantime I'll work on my intelligence


When you make uninformed and ignorant comments such as the one you made about Justus Sheffield, you deserve everything you get.
Lots of crap in this thread. How would anyone here know how  
yatqb : 5/13/2018 7:21 am : link
much baseball Boone knows? Third generation pro, and someone the Yankee front office was willing to hire despite his not managing before. This is not something a successful organization with high expectations and deep pockets does unless they are absolutely convinced about the guy's talent/competence.

But some here are sure that Girardi knows so much more than Boone will ever know. Well, how the fuck do YOU know that?

I liked Girardi as a manager, and was shocked that Cash picked Boone to manage this young club. But I don't presume to know at this juncture whether or not it was a wise choice. I do know that the team has lost only 3 games in the last month or so, against the best teams in the AL, so I'm gonna lean toward the proposition that Boone is doing a fine job, as opposed to being a non-factor in this success, as arnie's post seems to suggest.
Ryan if I made ill informed comments on Sheffield  
xman : 5/13/2018 8:33 am : link
isn't it possible to comment that you see it differently rather then calling someone ignorant. You would never do that to a person when talking to them so why is it ok to do it on this group site.

My comments mentioned that Sheffield is on the smallish side. He is 5 11 but stocky so at least he might have some strength behind that arm. He has had more then this present injury in his minor league career. Wasn't he injured in this years fall league ? Hit by a fluke come backer? I believe he also had a minor injury the year befor in the minors. My point was I would prefer a bigger framed pitcher. Who wouldn't a la Randy Johnson. Notice Severino Verlander CC et al.I fear guys that are smaller like Gray have skills that seem to diminish quicker because of the physical demands of the game

More troubling is that posters can't seem to follow the basic rules that Eric set out to not insult fellow posters. Is that such a hard rule to follow? It takes a bit of disipline to hold back when you get frustrated with an opinion but I think it is the better way to go. Instead of calling a poster ignorant for something you perceive to be in error why not respond why you feel his facts or views are incorrect? How does it help by attacking a fellow BBi member ?

I am amazed at the level of ugly over a sports site and the obliviousness to manners. Its likely only a handful of posters but one rotten apple can spoil the barrel and put a vice on the free exchange of idea. Would you prefer to have a clique of 6?
RE: Ryan if I made ill informed comments on Sheffield  
Jim in Tampa : 5/13/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 13962278 xman said:
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isn't it possible to comment that you see it differently rather then calling someone ignorant. You would never do that to a person when talking to them so why is it ok to do it on this group site.

My comments mentioned that Sheffield is on the smallish side. He is 5 11 but stocky so at least he might have some strength behind that arm. He has had more then this present injury in his minor league career. Wasn't he injured in this years fall league ? Hit by a fluke come backer? I believe he also had a minor injury the year befor in the minors. My point was I would prefer a bigger framed pitcher. Who wouldn't a la Randy Johnson. Notice Severino Verlander CC et al.I fear guys that are smaller like Gray have skills that seem to diminish quicker because of the physical demands of the game

More troubling is that posters can't seem to follow the basic rules that Eric set out to not insult fellow posters. Is that such a hard rule to follow? It takes a bit of disipline to hold back when you get frustrated with an opinion but I think it is the better way to go. Instead of calling a poster ignorant for something you perceive to be in error why not respond why you feel his facts or views are incorrect? How does it help by attacking a fellow BBi member ?

I am amazed at the level of ugly over a sports site and the obliviousness to manners. Its likely only a handful of posters but one rotten apple can spoil the barrel and put a vice on the free exchange of idea. Would you prefer to have a clique of 6?


Agree 100%. But you've been here long enough to know that it's not going to change.
yatqb  
arniefez : 5/13/2018 1:08 pm : link
quick question. If Mattingly and Boone swapped teams do you think the teams records would be different? Of course there's no way to tell but obviously my opinion is that they'd the exact same they are now. That's my point. I don't think managers matter at all unless the players hate them like Bobby Valentine in Boston or Matt Williams in Washington then it can be a problem.
I don't agree, arnie. Talent goes a long way, but leadership and  
yatqb : 5/13/2018 1:16 pm : link
decision-making can make a big difference, imo. I've always thought that Joe Maddon was worth about 4-5 games a year when he managed in the AL. That's as much of a difference as many good players.
RE: Ryan if I made ill informed comments on Sheffield  
Ryan in Albany : 5/13/2018 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13962278 xman said:
Quote:
isn't it possible to comment that you see it differently rather then calling someone ignorant. You would never do that to a person when talking to them so why is it ok to do it on this group site.

My comments mentioned that Sheffield is on the smallish side. He is 5 11 but stocky so at least he might have some strength behind that arm. He has had more then this present injury in his minor league career. Wasn't he injured in this years fall league ? Hit by a fluke come backer? I believe he also had a minor injury the year befor in the minors. My point was I would prefer a bigger framed pitcher. Who wouldn't a la Randy Johnson. Notice Severino Verlander CC et al.I fear guys that are smaller like Gray have skills that seem to diminish quicker because of the physical demands of the game

More troubling is that posters can't seem to follow the basic rules that Eric set out to not insult fellow posters. Is that such a hard rule to follow? It takes a bit of disipline to hold back when you get frustrated with an opinion but I think it is the better way to go. Instead of calling a poster ignorant for something you perceive to be in error why not respond why you feel his facts or views are incorrect? How does it help by attacking a fellow BBi member ?

I am amazed at the level of ugly over a sports site and the obliviousness to manners. Its likely only a handful of posters but one rotten apple can spoil the barrel and put a vice on the free exchange of idea. Would you prefer to have a clique of 6?


He has had no major injuries. Oblique and what is going on with his shoulder now. Hopefully that's all it is.

And yes, I would say what I said to you here to your face as well. If you think that was an insult, well, I don't know what to tell you.
RE: yatqb  
section125 : 5/13/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13962387 arniefez said:
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quick question. If Mattingly and Boone swapped teams do you think the teams records would be different? Of course there's no way to tell but obviously my opinion is that they'd the exact same they are now. That's my point. I don't think managers matter at all unless the players hate them like Bobby Valentine in Boston or Matt Williams in Washington then it can be a problem.


I think if Mattingly was manager, the record would be better. I'm not sure Boone did a good job getting the team ready through Spring Training. Thought he did not play the starters enough. But that is just my observation.

If managers don't matter, why did Girardi get let go? Why did toheCubs go after Joe Maddon? Why was Terry Collins fired. Why did the Indians hire Tito Francona's and why did to Sox tank when he left?

Yes talent makes managers look brilliant or like dolts. I always felt Joe Torre was overrated and actually a detriment later (say 2003 until let go.) And I think to some extent you are right that a loaded team could play themselves. But some teams need to be "managed."

Does Boone know baseball? Yeah, it has been his family's life. But as a catcher and a later as a coach and manager for longer than Boone was a big leaguer, Girardi knows the intricacies of baseball more thoroughly. Catchers have always been field managers and you see an exorbitant number that become managers. Thay handle pitchers and set the defense.

I have to admit Boone has been better than I thought and you can see him picking things up. He makes a mistake and learns. He is very patient (see Gardner, Walker, Stanton) which I'm not sure Girardi would be.
Joe Maddon  
arniefez : 5/13/2018 1:39 pm : link
did everything humanly possible to lose the world series two years. No matter how hard he tried his players still won it. But I agree that Maddon was a difference maker when he took over in Tampa. Buck was a difference maker when he took over in Baltimore. I agree there's something that's hard to define about setting a tone .I'm not sure it lasts long and over the grind of 162 games it's just the players that matter for me. But the word was that Girardi was fired because Cashman convinced Hall that his uptight personality was a negative in the dugout in close games. I grew up on Earl Weaver and Billy Martin and they were certainly difference makers but they were still pretty much useless without really good players.
I get your point about managers but I don't think its 100%  
xman : 5/13/2018 1:41 pm : link
Take Torre. Had a terrible record as manager in the NL but had poor teams . Comes to the Yanks and becomes the second coming of Joe McCarthy when given loads of high priced talent. Maybe great players have a way of making managers look great

We could look at basketball and Phil Jackson. He was like a God in LA. Comes to NY where he had a dearth of talent. Exposed as mortal

Take the miracle on ice; USA hockey Olympics team in the 80's. How did the Americans win that metal? Did our Coaching kill it?

Managers light a fire. In the older days they could light a fire under some asses and get the ball rolling.Billy Martin???

Harder to find a Willie Mays then a manager. Not really sure if there are that many special managers but there are some hideous ones. I suppose you just get one that doesn't rock the boat and focus on acquiring talent. Because talent wins more then managers

Actually in my opinion  
arniefez : 5/13/2018 2:29 pm : link
Torre performed a great service for the Yankees from 1996-2001. He wasn't intimidated by George and he kept him as under control as possible during those times. That was a big deal in a special case. But Torre is the perfect example of mangers being "pretty much" meaningless. He finished first once his first 15 years and then finished first 10 out of 11 years. It's not like a light switch went on. He got to mange a great team that Stick & Buck put together for him.

"Pretty much". There are plenty of relief pitchers who could tell you how he ended their careers 3 or 4 years early by abusing them. Plus he should have been fired for what happened in 2004 a lot of which happened because of the way he abused relief pitchers. Having said all of that it was still the players that really lost those games.
The more time goes on , the more I understand letting Girardi go  
DennyInDenville : 5/13/2018 2:33 pm : link
I was Girardis biggest fan and thought letting him go was a mistake..

But no denying Joe was wound pretty tight, seemed as if he was burning out a bit and just needed some rest

Boone is very relaxed and so far has done a good job.

Only aspects of the game so far Boone < Joe is the bullpen management so far, but not like it's been bad , Joe was just elite at that aspect

The radar shows the rain moving out  
dpinzow : 5/13/2018 2:59 pm : link
I think we play baseball today, around 3:30 or 4 PM
And just as I posted that  
dpinzow : 5/13/2018 3:00 pm : link
they are taking the tarp off the field and expected start time is 3:45
We all agree that no one can with with crap players. And that  
yatqb : 5/13/2018 4:35 pm : link
having a great team sure makes it easier to win. But as others have said, those inside the team's culture know how one manager can inspire and another suck the air out of a team, how one manager's decisions seem to pay off more regularly than is typical, and others are at best puzzling and at worst seem brain-dead. C'mon, just like in any other arena, talent (in this case in a manager) pays off.
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