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Snacks not happy with Jordan Raanan

EddieNYG : 5/12/2018 4:10 pm
Jordan tweets:
@JordanRaanan

Found it interesting that D-lineman B.J. Hill (third-round pick) hadn't heard or spoken to any defensive veterans yet. Leadership was a problem last year on that defense. #Giants
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Snacks responds:
@snacks

Youíre reaching Jordan. Keep it up though...just stay away from me


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why would he welcome two guys  
msh : 5/13/2018 3:26 pm : link
in particular at his position to the team? easy done when its the first round guy like barkley or engram or guys who play different positions say a CB or WR or something but those 2 guys could potentially push him off the starter or even the team altogether ,and that happened to him with the jets when they kept drafting DL making him expendable,wilkerson too (except people are worried too much about his off field rep)

from all accounts the DL was a pretty tight group but with jpp gone and hankins gone and 2 new DT's drafted they havent exactly made it easy for him to welcome these guys either

Jordan should stick to tweeting about  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/13/2018 5:02 pm : link
hair care products
RE: You are basically drawing conclusions  
Milton : 5/13/2018 5:05 pm : link
In comment 13962261 UConn4523 said:
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just like Ranaan. And by the way, chickenshit tactic #1 is to pose what you really think as a question so you can get away with not putting your opinion behind it. Thatís exactly what he did.

In sum, Ranaan is a coward. Should have just posted it as a statement like a man. No one is asking for cheerleader, this was just a very weak attempt at getting a story.
I don't think this is a case of posing a statement as a question. It's just as unfair to make assumptions on Raanan as it is to make assumptions on Harrison.

I don't know what's going on with Harrison, but it's fair to ask questions, because these aren't just isolated facts that are accumulating. What it all adds up to remains unknown, but it's worthy of discussion.
RE: OH for cryin out loud  
Milton : 5/13/2018 5:06 pm : link
In comment 13962391 Dave on the UWS said:
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I bet you see Snacks and B.J. together a lot during camp.
No shit, Sherlock, they play on the same line!!!
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I would think the defensive leader would contact new teammates  
Milton : 5/13/2018 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13962264 T-Bone said:
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I guess that depends on if you think Eli doing that is a show of leadership or something nice being done by someone who happens to be one of the established leaders on the team?
It's both a show a leadership and something nice to do.

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If Gallman sent Barkley a text, does that make him a leader as well? If Ogletree called Carter to welcome him to the team (because of the Georgia connection), that automatically make him a leader even though he just got here?
It doesn't make them leaders, but it shows that they are doing the kinds of things that leaders do.

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These are examples of why itís kind of silly, in my opinion, to equate something as... trivial (for lack of a better term)... as calling someone to welcome them to the organization as any real, tangible sign of leadership.
I guess we'll have to disagree on this, because I believe it is a tangible sign of leadership.

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Anyone can do it
Anyone can be a leader!

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Shit... Tim Scott can do that just like Eli can.
Tim Scott can be a leader just like Eli can. It's just carries a helluva lot more weight coming from the starting QB.
Milton  
T-Bone : 5/13/2018 5:50 pm : link
Youíre psychoanalyzing this to the same degree that Raanan is attempting to do. Which is why youíre continuing to try to debate something that in the grand scheme of things is a very trivial matter. Matter of fact, itís so trivial that Iím honestly not that interested in continuing it. Snacks has made it clear that he believes that Ranaan is reaching... Tuck, who I think we both agree has proven to be a pretty good leader during his time with the team, agrees with Snacks. A majority of the people on this thread also agree with Snacks.

If you and Ranaan want to continue to question whether a single player not receiving a welcome message somehow points to a continued lack of leadership then please continue waving that flag and keeping an eye out for any other subtle moves (or non-moves) made over the course of the summer. Who knows... you guys may be right and the defense may be on the verge of a mutiny because McIntish also never received such a call/text.
Guys  
Milton : 5/13/2018 6:00 pm : link
We're all playing connect the dots in a picture that contains enough dots to ask questions, but not enough to draw any conclusions. Should the beat reporters not report on who is completing passes in minicamp and who is intercepting them? These are also dots that carry very little weight, but if you keep hearing about a certain guy making a lot of catches or breaking up a lot of passes it starts to add up. And eventually you have enough dots to start seeing an image. It doesn't mean the image is in focus, but at least you can start making educated guesses about what it is. Eventually the image becomes clear. Sometimes it's the image you had a hunch it would turn out to be, other times you have to laugh at yourself at how wrong you were.

As far as Snacks is concerned, we have a bunch of dots to work with that we didn't have six or so months ago. One of those dots is that he just had a baby, another is that he just got his degree. These are dots that may or may not be meaningful in terms of his recent behavior/state of mind with the Giants. The fact that the Giants spent two of their six picks at the DT position when they already have Snacks and Tomlinson is another dot which may or may not be meaningful (i.e., are the Giants preparing for this being Snacks last year with the team? and I get that Tomlinson and McIntosh can play DE in a 3-4, but they are run-stuffers like Snacks, not pass-rushers). And there are several other dots as well that have been pointed out with Harrison, all of which may or may not be meaningful.

It's the beat writers job to give us as many dots as possible, it's up to us to draw the picture. Right now it's an incomplete picture, but there are more dots to come and at this point there is no reason to ignore any of the dots we've so far accumulated. Each of them may or may not be relevant.
SMH  
T-Bone : 5/13/2018 6:04 pm : link
And sometimes... theyíre just dots Milton. Nothing more, nothing less.

Good luck on your search for Ďthe truthí Milton.
RE: Milton  
Milton : 5/13/2018 6:11 pm : link
In comment 13962536 T-Bone said:
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Youíre psychoanalyzing this to the same degree that Raanan is attempting to do. Which is why youíre continuing to try to debate something that in the grand scheme of things is a very trivial matter.
What I'm continuing to debate isn't so much the degree to which the factoid is meaningful, but Raanan's justification for reporting it. With BBI everything has to be black or white. It's either "In Reese we trust" or Reese is the anti-Christ. When Raanan first arrived on the scene, he was getting rave reviews as a breath of fresh air compared to Ralph V (another who takes far too much undeserved abuse for doing his job). Garafalo was fortunate to leave at a time when he was popular, so now he is always remembered fondly, even though he was really not much different than any of the others. Timing is everything. And confirmation bias rules the day: if you believe Eli is a leader, texting the draft pick is another sign of it; if you believe Snacks is a leader, not texting a draft pick is completely irrelevant.
RE: SMH  
Eman11 : 5/13/2018 6:13 pm : link
In comment 13962549 T-Bone said:
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And sometimes... theyíre just dots Milton. Nothing more, nothing less.

Good luck on your search for Ďthe truthí Milton.


Totally agree.

They're just friggin dots, and no, we're not all connecting them like Milton suggests.

It seems to me the writer is trying to get people to connect them, but like Snacks said, he's reaching. He's trying to sell something that most of us aren't buying.
RE: SMH  
Milton : 5/13/2018 6:18 pm : link
In comment 13962549 T-Bone said:
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And sometimes... theyíre just dots Milton. Nothing more, nothing less.
Exactly!!! But we wont know if it's nothing more than a dot until all the dots have been collected and properly placed in context.

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Good luck on your search for Ďthe truthí Milton.
The truth is always a worthwhile search.

p.s.--I'll leave you with a quote from Dostoevsky when he was just 18-years old...
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ďMan is a mystery: if you spend your entire life trying to puzzle it out, then do not say that you have wasted your time. I occupy myself with this mystery, because I want to be a man.Ē
RE: RE: Milton  
T-Bone : 5/13/2018 6:19 pm : link
In comment 13962554 Milton said:
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Youíre psychoanalyzing this to the same degree that Raanan is attempting to do. Which is why youíre continuing to try to debate something that in the grand scheme of things is a very trivial matter.

What I'm continuing to debate isn't so much the degree to which the factoid is meaningful, but Raanan's justification for reporting it. With BBI everything has to be black or white. It's either "In Reese we trust" or Reese is the anti-Christ. When Raanan first arrived on the scene, he was getting rave reviews as a breath of fresh air compared to Ralph V (another who takes far too much undeserved abuse for doing his job). Garafalo was fortunate to leave at a time when he was popular, so now he is always remembered fondly, even though he was really not much different than any of the others. Timing is everything. And confirmation bias rules the day: if you believe Eli is a leader, texting the draft pick is another sign of it; if you believe Snacks is a leader, not texting a draft pick is completely irrelevant.


Or if you donít think texting a rookie has anything to do with actual leadership, then it matters little to you whether Eli texts someone or Snacks doesnít. THAT, my friend, is the point. Youíre talking about BBI being so Ďblack and whiteí and yet thatís precisely what youíre doing here. If a guy texts a guy, thatís showing leadership... but if he doesnít, itís not.

Again, you (and Ranaan) are making a mountain out of a molehill.
RE: RE: SMH  
T-Bone : 5/13/2018 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13962555 Eman11 said:
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And sometimes... theyíre just dots Milton. Nothing more, nothing less.

Good luck on your search for Ďthe truthí Milton.



Totally agree.

They're just friggin dots, and no, we're not all connecting them like Milton suggests.

It seems to me the writer is trying to get people to connect them, but like Snacks said, he's reaching. He's trying to sell something that most of us aren't buying.


Exactly! Except... Milton!
Ok Milt...  
T-Bone : 5/13/2018 6:22 pm : link
I yield.

Have a good one buddy.
RE: Ok Milt...  
Milton : 5/13/2018 6:24 pm : link
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I yield.

Have a good one buddy.
You, too, big guy!
I wonder how many non-HR, non-management guys  
Bill L : 5/13/2018 7:10 pm : link
called Jordan after he agreed to join but before his first day at his new job here. Heck, I wonder how if anyone called him at all before he showed up.


Milton  
UConn4523 : 5/13/2018 7:28 pm : link
not all of us are playing connect the dots. In fact, Iím emphatically against doing that which Iíve said many times now. Just because you are doing it doesnít mean the rest of us are.

Ranaan has grasped at stories before and he seems to be doing it again. Heís going to get himself blackballed by the locker room if he isnít careful. His problem, not mine.
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christian : 5/13/2018 7:39 pm : link
Just so we're clear, which rookies are the vets supposed to text? Only draft picks, only on their side of the ball? Is there a time limit? This way Raanan can get this hard-hitting news over to the team. I'd hate for Snacks to not to text Tyrell Chavis and fail on this whole leadership thing.
Raanan..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/14/2018 8:06 am : link
has spent most of his time trying to create stories where none exist. Last year, he had two columns about how the giants were "unfair" because they signed a few UDFA only to release them a few days later, even though that practice is common for every team.

He's more about drumming up click bait than actually reporting things of substance.
Snacks himself declared he's not a leader  
JonC : 5/14/2018 8:29 am : link
It's not really a good look to come out and say it, it unfortunately invites scrutiny and vultures to create clickbait.
RE: Leadership on defense  
TGATE GRLMST : 5/14/2018 11:40 am : link
In comment 13962030 MookGiants said:
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absolutely was a problem last year. Multiple guys quit, and that is a reflection of leadership on the team and more specifically the defense, and it certainly wasnt all McAdoo. I didnt see many guys on offense quit, but there were more than a few on defense who should be embarrassed that they collected a paycheck for their effort some weeks


And that's why some more of them aren't here anymore!
RE: Iím still not sure how anyone on D  
Hades07 : 5/14/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13962084 T-Bone said:
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not sending a player a ĎWelcomeí text is a show of lack of leadership?


I agree that this is a silly reason to question the leadership on D.

Would you say that questioning the overall leadership on D is off base though based on what we saw last season? Though I am of the opinion that it was a result of the coaching staff last season.
Snacks is supposed to be a professional. He's acting like a kid.  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 6:20 pm : link
The press often look to create a story. That's the way it is. Being a pro involves more than just what you do on the field. It's how you handle yourself in all aspects of your career. That includes dealing with the press in a manner in which Mara would approve. And I would suggest that Mara would not approve of Snacks "response" - and would have told Snacks he should have kept his mouth shut, his head down, and continued being a man on the field and in the locker room.
RE: Snacks is supposed to be a professional. He's acting like a kid.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/14/2018 7:08 pm : link
In comment 13963602 baadbill said:
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The press often look to create a story. That's the way it is. Being a pro involves more than just what you do on the field. It's how you handle yourself in all aspects of your career. That includes dealing with the press in a manner in which Mara would approve. And I would suggest that Mara would not approve of Snacks "response" - and would have told Snacks he should have kept his mouth shut, his head down, and continued being a man on the field and in the locker room.


At what point did John Mara become Damon Harrison's father? A 30 year old man with kids does not have to "keep his head down and his mouth shut" if he wants to object to having his character damaged by the media.
RE: RE: Snacks is supposed to be a professional. He's acting like a kid.  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 7:28 pm : link
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The press often look to create a story. That's the way it is. Being a pro involves more than just what you do on the field. It's how you handle yourself in all aspects of your career. That includes dealing with the press in a manner in which Mara would approve. And I would suggest that Mara would not approve of Snacks "response" - and would have told Snacks he should have kept his mouth shut, his head down, and continued being a man on the field and in the locker room.



At what point did John Mara become Damon Harrison's father? A 30 year old man with kids does not have to "keep his head down and his mouth shut" if he wants to object to having his character damaged by the media.


If I'm paying him several million dollars, I'm paying him for every way he conducts himself, including interacting with the media. And believe it that Mara talks to players when they act in ways he doesn't appreciate (ala Beckham)... I doubt Mara gets involved in this ... too petty ... but it is Snacks job to be a complete professional ... and imo he's demonstrating he is just a school yard kid who can't control himself because some other kid stuck his tongue out at him
RE: RE: Snacks is supposed to be a professional. He's acting like a kid.  
BigBlue4You09 : 5/14/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13963633 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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The press often look to create a story. That's the way it is. Being a pro involves more than just what you do on the field. It's how you handle yourself in all aspects of your career. That includes dealing with the press in a manner in which Mara would approve. And I would suggest that Mara would not approve of Snacks "response" - and would have told Snacks he should have kept his mouth shut, his head down, and continued being a man on the field and in the locker room.



At what point did John Mara become Damon Harrison's father? A 30 year old man with kids does not have to "keep his head down and his mouth shut" if he wants to object to having his character damaged by the media.


Exactly, he has every right to respond to a hack like Raanan
RE: RE: RE: Snacks is supposed to be a professional. He's acting like a kid.  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13963646 BigBlue4You09 said:
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The press often look to create a story. That's the way it is. Being a pro involves more than just what you do on the field. It's how you handle yourself in all aspects of your career. That includes dealing with the press in a manner in which Mara would approve. And I would suggest that Mara would not approve of Snacks "response" - and would have told Snacks he should have kept his mouth shut, his head down, and continued being a man on the field and in the locker room.



At what point did John Mara become Damon Harrison's father? A 30 year old man with kids does not have to "keep his head down and his mouth shut" if he wants to object to having his character damaged by the media.



Exactly, he has every right to respond to a hack like Raanan


Well, if so, then what is his response? Did he call? Does he feel the kid doesn't deserve a call? Does he think it was some other defenseman's job to call?

Snacks is the one who comes across like a hack as far as I'm concerned. If Snacks feels the question was inappropriate, then he can tell me why. But right now, all he did was basically give the guy the finger, leaving me to believe the story was right on target and Snacks had no good answer.
RE: Snacks is supposed to be a professional. He's acting like a kid.  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13963602 baadbill said:
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The press often look to create a story. That's the way it is. Being a pro involves more than just what you do on the field. It's how you handle yourself in all aspects of your career. That includes dealing with the press in a manner in which Mara would approve. And I would suggest that Mara would not approve of Snacks "response" - and would have told Snacks he should have kept his mouth shut, his head down, and continued being a man on the field and in the locker room.


Hats bullshit. You are basically saying Mara should be allowed to censor his employees. Snacks didnít call him a racial slur or threaten to beat the shit out of him. He asked him to stay away if heís going to make shit up. Mara may prefer he take the Eli Manning approach but thatís about it.

You are talking about muting an employee which if is what Mara wants, than Iím not sure I want to root for the team he owns.
And Snacks doesnít need to tell you anything  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 7:45 pm : link
he owes you nothing, Baadbill. If you think he comes across like an ass, thatís fine, itís your opinion. But if you think he somehow owes this franchise more than giving 100% on the field and being a law abiding citizen off of it, than you are a delusion fan.
How the hell did the media become a protected species?  
BigBlueShock : 5/14/2018 7:49 pm : link
Guys like Jordan continue to poke, poke, poke and if a player responds, he gets killed. Why? Itís about damn time these players start responding. At what point do we hold Jordan accountable for being a professional? This isnít an isolated incident. Jordanís been stirring the pot for awhile now and I think itís naive to just say ďeh, you canít win against the mediaĒ, or ďhe sounds like a childĒ if he responds. These guys are human.

At what point is the supposed professional in the media supposed to act like a professional? You guys chalking shit like this up to, oh well, heís just doing his job, are a huge part of the problem
RE: RE: Snacks is supposed to be a professional. He's acting like a kid.  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 7:50 pm : link
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The press often look to create a story. That's the way it is. Being a pro involves more than just what you do on the field. It's how you handle yourself in all aspects of your career. That includes dealing with the press in a manner in which Mara would approve. And I would suggest that Mara would not approve of Snacks "response" - and would have told Snacks he should have kept his mouth shut, his head down, and continued being a man on the field and in the locker room.



Hats bullshit. You are basically saying Mara should be allowed to censor his employees. Snacks didnít call him a racial slur or threaten to beat the shit out of him. He asked him to stay away if heís going to make shit up. Mara may prefer he take the Eli Manning approach but thatís about it.

You are talking about muting an employee which if is what Mara wants, than Iím not sure I want to root for the team he owns.


I guess you don't work for a large company. Virtually every major company "mutes" their employees when it comes to talking publicly about business that relates to the company. I guess you haven't heard about employees being fired because of stupid shit they've said on facebook even though it wasn't negative about the company, but made the company look "unprofessional"

But - the bottom line is this. Snacks should act like his employer is paying him to act. Like an adult. Stop getting involved in "nah nah na na na" shit. He's not in 6th grade any more. He should grow the fuck up. And - if he is going to respond - then he could at least answer the fucking question. His failure to address the question itself tells me that's likely because he doesn't have a good answer.
RE: And Snacks doesnít need to tell you anything  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13963662 UConn4523 said:
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he owes you nothing, Baadbill. If you think he comes across like an ass, thatís fine, itís your opinion. But if you think he somehow owes this franchise more than giving 100% on the field and being a law abiding citizen off of it, than you are a delusion fan.


I guarantee you his contract has clauses that dictate his behavior well beyond the football field.
So wait  
BigBlueShock : 5/14/2018 7:54 pm : link
I must have missed the interview with Jordan sitting down and asking Snacks face to face ďhey, why didnít you cal the rookie draft pick?Ē. Did this happen? Was he man enough to do this?
Iíve worked for 2 major corporations  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 7:56 pm : link
thanks for looking into my credentials. And what you are referencing isnít close to something thatís ďfireableĒ. Asking a reporter to leave you alone for making up stories is literally what you are up in arms over. Let that sink in for a second.

Ereck Flowers hits a reporter and nothing happens but Snacks asks a guy to leave him alone and he gets this kind of backlash?

Good lord some of you people suck.
RE: How the hell did the media become a protected species?  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 7:56 pm : link
In comment 13963666 BigBlueShock said:
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Guys like Jordan continue to poke, poke, poke and if a player responds, he gets killed. Why? Itís about damn time these players start responding. At what point do we hold Jordan accountable for being a professional? This isnít an isolated incident. Jordanís been stirring the pot for awhile now and I think itís naive to just say ďeh, you canít win against the mediaĒ, or ďhe sounds like a childĒ if he responds. These guys are human.

At what point is the supposed professional in the media supposed to act like a professional? You guys chalking shit like this up to, oh well, heís just doing his job, are a huge part of the problem


The media will respond when we - the fans - let the writer's employer know we won't read him any more because of the nature of this reporting. That's going to carry a hell of a lot more weight than anything a player says.

Especially when the player doesn't even address the issue. The story implied some lineman should have called and didn't. If Snacks has a problem with that, then say so. But just giving the finger to the media is acting like a little boy (and, again, tells me that he didn't have a good answer to the story because, if he did, why doesn't he tell us that good answer?)
We are talking about tweets  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 7:57 pm : link
which makes this even more hilarious.
So he gave the finger now?  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 7:57 pm : link
did he upload
RE: Iíve worked for 2 major corporations  
BigBlueShock : 5/14/2018 7:58 pm : link
In comment 13963677 UConn4523 said:
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thanks for looking into my credentials. And what you are referencing isnít close to something thatís ďfireableĒ. Asking a reporter to leave you alone for making up stories is literally what you are up in arms over. Let that sink in for a second.

Ereck Flowers hits a reporter and nothing happens but Snacks asks a guy to leave him alone and he gets this kind of backlash?

Good lord some of you people suck.

The funny thing is, it was the SAME ďreporterĒ, wasnít it? Huh
Did he upload a picture  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 7:58 pm : link
or gif? Or are you just making up your own story like Ranaan?
RE: Iíve worked for 2 major corporations  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 7:58 pm : link
In comment 13963677 UConn4523 said:
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thanks for looking into my credentials. And what you are referencing isnít close to something thatís ďfireableĒ. Asking a reporter to leave you alone for making up stories is literally what you are up in arms over. Let that sink in for a second.

Ereck Flowers hits a reporter and nothing happens but Snacks asks a guy to leave him alone and he gets this kind of backlash?

Good lord some of you people suck.


Where did I say fireable? Geez, you like to make shit up i see.
RE: RE: Iíve worked for 2 major corporations  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 8:00 pm : link
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thanks for looking into my credentials. And what you are referencing isnít close to something thatís ďfireableĒ. Asking a reporter to leave you alone for making up stories is literally what you are up in arms over. Let that sink in for a second.

Ereck Flowers hits a reporter and nothing happens but Snacks asks a guy to leave him alone and he gets this kind of backlash?

Good lord some of you people suck.


The funny thing is, it was the SAME ďreporterĒ, wasnít it? Huh


Haha, yeah thatís correct. Like I said much earlier in this thread, Ranaanís got some thinking to do. Does he really want to be blackballed by the entire Giants locker room? Manish Mehta in waiting.
Good thread  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2018 8:00 pm : link
So how 'bout those Mets?










RE: RE: Iíve worked for 2 major corporations  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 8:01 pm : link
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thanks for looking into my credentials. And what you are referencing isnít close to something thatís ďfireableĒ. Asking a reporter to leave you alone for making up stories is literally what you are up in arms over. Let that sink in for a second.

Ereck Flowers hits a reporter and nothing happens but Snacks asks a guy to leave him alone and he gets this kind of backlash?

Good lord some of you people suck.



Where did I say fireable? Geez, you like to make shit up i see.


You literally posted about companies firing just minutes ago. Canít keep up with your own bullshit, can you?
RE: RE: How the hell did the media become a protected species?  
BigBlueShock : 5/14/2018 8:01 pm : link
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Guys like Jordan continue to poke, poke, poke and if a player responds, he gets killed. Why? Itís about damn time these players start responding. At what point do we hold Jordan accountable for being a professional? This isnít an isolated incident. Jordanís been stirring the pot for awhile now and I think itís naive to just say ďeh, you canít win against the mediaĒ, or ďhe sounds like a childĒ if he responds. These guys are human.

At what point is the supposed professional in the media supposed to act like a professional? You guys chalking shit like this up to, oh well, heís just doing his job, are a huge part of the problem



The media will respond when we - the fans - let the writer's employer know we won't read him any more because of the nature of this reporting. That's going to carry a hell of a lot more weight than anything a player says.

Especially when the player doesn't even address the issue. The story implied some lineman should have called and didn't. If Snacks has a problem with that, then say so. But just giving the finger to the media is acting like a little boy (and, again, tells me that he didn't have a good answer to the story because, if he did, why doesn't he tell us that good answer?)

He didnít address the issue? WHAT issue? Can Jordan provide us the numbers of how many players call mid round picks across the NFL? Does he know? Does every single mid rounder receive a call? If not, whatís the percentage? If heís going to run his mouth he should at least have some data, correct?
RE: RE: RE: Iíve worked for 2 major corporations  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 8:03 pm : link
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thanks for looking into my credentials. And what you are referencing isnít close to something thatís ďfireableĒ. Asking a reporter to leave you alone for making up stories is literally what you are up in arms over. Let that sink in for a second.

Ereck Flowers hits a reporter and nothing happens but Snacks asks a guy to leave him alone and he gets this kind of backlash?

Good lord some of you people suck.



Where did I say fireable? Geez, you like to make shit up i see.



You literally posted about companies firing just minutes ago. Canít keep up with your own bullshit, can you?


I didn't say Snacks should be fired. Never even implied it. You are full of bullshit.
RE: Good thread  
BigBlueShock : 5/14/2018 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13963687 Jimmy Googs said:
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So how 'bout those Mets?
Hey Googs!

You spelled Yankees wrong









Haha  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2018 8:06 pm : link
1 person on this thread brought up employers firing employees basked on Facebook posts and it wasnít me.

Iím done here, you arenít worth my time. Enjoy getting pissed at a tweet, I hope you feel vindicated.
Yanks off tonight. Best record in baseball (tied)  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2018 8:10 pm : link
and Stanton seems to be heating up.

Life is good for the bombers...
RE: RE: RE: How the hell did the media become a protected species?  
baadbill : 5/14/2018 8:12 pm : link
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In comment 13963666 BigBlueShock said:


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Guys like Jordan continue to poke, poke, poke and if a player responds, he gets killed. Why? Itís about damn time these players start responding. At what point do we hold Jordan accountable for being a professional? This isnít an isolated incident. Jordanís been stirring the pot for awhile now and I think itís naive to just say ďeh, you canít win against the mediaĒ, or ďhe sounds like a childĒ if he responds. These guys are human.

At what point is the supposed professional in the media supposed to act like a professional? You guys chalking shit like this up to, oh well, heís just doing his job, are a huge part of the problem



The media will respond when we - the fans - let the writer's employer know we won't read him any more because of the nature of this reporting. That's going to carry a hell of a lot more weight than anything a player says.

Especially when the player doesn't even address the issue. The story implied some lineman should have called and didn't. If Snacks has a problem with that, then say so. But just giving the finger to the media is acting like a little boy (and, again, tells me that he didn't have a good answer to the story because, if he did, why doesn't he tell us that good answer?)


He didnít address the issue? WHAT issue? Can Jordan provide us the numbers of how many players call mid round picks across the NFL? Does he know? Does every single mid rounder receive a call? If not, whatís the percentage? If heís going to run his mouth he should at least have some data, correct?


I am not sticking up for the reporter. I am, however, saying that being a professional involves acting like a professional. I think Snacks is the best run stopping DT in the league. I've never read anything about him that I didn't like.

And his response here isn't a big deal. But - he is acting like a little boy. The media get public people riled up all the time. That's what the media do. And public figures usually have enough self control to act like an adult and ignore it.

Snacks didn't. I think it was dumb of him to do. And I suspect Mara would have preferred he not engage in a publc pissing contest with the press. Mara probably won't say anything. But I promise you - if he continues pissing into the wind at the media, Mara will say something to him.

And, for those that think he is allowed to engage in a pissing contest with the media, I got news for you - not if it is about his role on the NY Giants he doesn't. I mean, he legally can say whatever he wants. The constitution guarantees him that. But if Mara tells him to stop - and he didn't listen to Mara - I promise you that his contract almost certainly has multiple clauses regarding "conduct unbecoming" blah blah blah

None of that is going to happen. This is all a big deal about nothing.

Made that way by Snacks - who should have acted like an adult and moved on.

Meanwhile, Snacks, I got a question for ya ... did you happen to call and welcome the newly drafted D lineman to the team and wish him luck? Just wondering...
Back to this silly thread though...  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2018 8:17 pm : link
Raanan tossed a hack comment and Snacks can respond anyway he wants in my view.

And stop mixing up issues that have no relationship. Some may not be happy with some of Snacks moves/comments lately but not sure that should be related to this at all.

Giants may need leadership but to throw it on his doorstep seems disingenuous...I could type several veteran NY Giant names in his place that could step up themselves.
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