What we learned:
• Elsie’s back with her foul mouthed self. It was like she never left.
• The woman who escaped from the Raj turns out to be MiB’s daughter. That was the big reveal at the end but I thought the show had been tipping their hand on this during the episode.
• At least part of the alternate plan for the hosts was extending the lives of humans by transferring their consciousness into a host body but the project was never fully successful. The repeating Jim Delos host scenes were very good.
• Bernard is trying to suppress the evil/killer Bernard side that we saw when Ford activated it last season to kill Theresa. But is his failing memory revealing his true self?
• Thought the scenes in the Mexican town with the Confederale tormenting the town’s people dragged on too long. Not sure where they are going with MiB’s apparent temporary act of remorse/compassion.
Overall, I thought Epi 4 was much better than last week’s episode. Maybe that’s because there was no Deloris this week. Good to have Elsie back on the show.
I'm guessing Ford got it to work.
I'm guessing Ford got it to work.
My question is: Was the immortality project "the secret" of the what WestWorld really is or are they also duplicating guests?
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I'm guessing Ford got it to work.
My question is: Was the immortality project "the secret" of the what WestWorld really is or are they also duplicating guests?
I have a feeling Ford didn't want anything to do with immortality plan.
A) Ford figured out how to do what Delos wanted, but kept stalling it himself every chance he got
B) In order to get over the reoccurring glitch, the hosts needed to become sentient.
I also find it interesting that the Hosts are also having the same glitch that Delos appears to have. They get stuck in all of their memories, and don't know what reality is.
So is Bernard truly in control of himself now, or is he still operating according to Ford's coding? Is he still the killer he remembered in his flashbacks? Why did Clementine drag him to the cave where he stashed Elsie?
At the time of Arnold's death, Delo's was able to capture his consciousness. I'm sure ford would have been able to do the same.
Another thing I am thinking about, is that maybe William has figured out what's causing the plateau. They use the park to record exactly how everyone acts, and behaves even when no one is looking, but they do not fear death in the park, because they can't be killed, so they aren't getting a complete picture of the human.
William probably thinks, that making the hosts a real challenge, will actually record his entire thought process. How he reacts to being nearly killed, and when he is actually afraid, etc. Making a complete map of the brain, instead of having that one piece lost.
Maybe Arnold was all about the Delo's project and Ford wasn't. Seems they disagreed on a few things.
He is more than a hybrid. He was a human and he was reincarnated in Bernard's body.
There was a point in one of the episodes where Bernard had to be tested for his DNA in order to gain entry into a secure area.
I found it suspicious that he had no problem in passing this test.
It also appears as previously noted that Bernard's breakdown was similar to Jim Deleos's meltdown.
I'm guessing Ford got it to work.
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But unless he knew Arnold was about to commit suicide by host, why would he have done that? And I would think he would have had to have Arnold's cooperation to capture his mind in a control unit.
Maybe Arnold was all about the Delo's project and Ford wasn't. Seems they disagreed on a few things.
Wasn't Arnold dead before Delos invested in the park? Didn't they say something about them being in financial trouble and one of the partners recently committed suicide?
Westworld updated timeline - ( New Window )
Very interesting, thanks for posting
The secret lab was what MiB was doing, perhaps so that he could figure out how to transfer his mind to a host body. And Ford had Bernard destroy the secret lab.
I’m still not sure Elsie was there and not in Bernard’s head.
As to why Clementine dragged Bernard there— Ford’s latent programming.
He’s not. He is 100% Ford’s creation. And Ford didn’t want the human/hybrid combo, which is why he had Bernard destroy the MiB’s project.
Abernathy is the one who has the human/hybrid code, which is why 1. Delos is trying to get him out of the park and 2. The code Bernard sees is the same type of code used for Abernathy.
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But is he a host hybrid is the question.
He’s not. He is 100% Ford’s creation. And Ford didn’t want the human/hybrid combo, which is why he had Bernard destroy the MiB’s project.
Abernathy is the one who has the human/hybrid code, which is why 1. Delos is trying to get him out of the park and 2. The code Bernard sees is the same type of code used for Abernathy.
I don't know how you could say that for sure. I agree its probably the most probable scenario, but until we pull his robot brain out, we won't know for sure.
Where is this story going?
Where is this story going?
He said: "You live only as long as the last person who remembers you,"
We already see Ford appearing in code/cyberspace and speaking through other host to MiB. How far of a step would it be to just print him up a body?
I think the loss of Anthony Hopkins hurts the series and my guess is that with the direction they have shown away from the S1 WW the show will not have the same popularity at the end of this season as it did at the end of last season.
Shows like GoT can survive killing off their veteran cast members since they have so many and they have established strong, once secondary characters into stars, but I don't think WW can. And with respect to the work of Jeffrey Wright and Thandie Newton, Sam Harris can't really carry this all by himself.
IMO, shifting timelines to form tricky plot twists can only last so long. You need strong characters and acting.
Dolores going bad like this seems too soon for me, but then again you have to establish some type of villain because everyone else is neither hero nor villain
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But is he a host hybrid is the question.
He’s not. He is 100% Ford’s creation. And Ford didn’t want the human/hybrid combo, which is why he had Bernard destroy the MiB’s project.
Abernathy is the one who has the human/hybrid code, which is why 1. Delos is trying to get him out of the park and 2. The code Bernard sees is the same type of code used for Abernathy.
I don't know how you could say that for sure. I agree its probably the most probable scenario, but until we pull his robot brain out, we won't know for sure.
Because Bernard being a host/hybrid is totally inconsistent with everything that we've seen from Ford.
As to hopes of an Anthony Hopkins return -- I think that's extremely unlikely.