Giants waive and sign a bunch of guys

Thanks!

In comment 13963217 Beer Man said:

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Wow. DG / PS cleaning house. I thought they would at least let him come to camp and compete.

This is only a mild surprise. He didn't even make the 53 from last year. He was practice squad and then elevated to the 53 later on.

In comment 13963231 eric2425ny said:

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did Reese suck at drafting offensive lineman. I mean I know Bisno was a 6th round pick, but he couldn’t make last years initial roster even though we had crap to choose from and he couldn’t beat out a bunch of UDFA’s this year. I still can’t believe how much cash was laid out by Arizona and SF for Pugh and Richburg. They will regret those contracts soon enough.

Who he traded up to get and who couldn't even make the 53 man roster end of camp.

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but who was in the trenches doing the evaluating? They were terrible judges of O-line talent.

In the rookie mini-camp. I heard they had him playing at RG.

For the Gmen to cut Dixon, several of the new guys we brought in must be looking pretty good....at least the Gmen feel, look to have more upside than Dixon.

In comment 13963589 81_Great_Dane said:

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There was a myth that Reese "ignored" the line. He threw a bunch of draft picks and bushels of free agent dollars at the line. He didn't ignore it; he tried very hard and failed. IMO, failure is worse.

Exactly, it wasn’t that he ignored the line, he just didn’t know who to draft. And his free agent pickups left a lot to be desired as well (eg. Schwartz).

Is the lineman who has that Gettleman diamond in rough feel. He has far. Hoping he he the find.

He is that Gettleman scrapper. I am hoping he is the find

I’m still waiting for the real house cleaning when will it come and when will we stop wasting money on contracts for guys who can’t even make it thru warm ups to real camps? Every year they do the same thing sign way to many guys who don’t even make it thru warm up camp. Are they required to keep a certain number of players or is it the teams option. Why have 90 guys when 20+ of them are easily wasting everyone’s time including the coaches. It’s better to run thirty plays with guys who have a shot to make the team then 60 with mostly guys with no ability.

In comment 13963589 81_Great_Dane said:

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There was a myth that Reese "ignored" the line. He threw a bunch of draft picks and bushels of free agent dollars at the line. He didn't ignore it; he tried very hard and failed. IMO, failure is worse.

How would you characterize Reese's drafting considering this fact; In the 9 years between 2004 through 2012, a grand total of 2 premium picks in round 1 through 3 were spent on O-line players (Snee 2004, Beatty in 2011)? That's an 11% investment on the 5 O-line positions.

Maybe Reese didn't put a high value enough on Oline, maybe he and his scouts were just poor at scouting them.

To me, you have to be willing to make a larger investment on OL in the way of premium draft picks (rounds 1, 2, 3), or get unusually lucky via free agency, to build an effective O-line.

They also felt those guys many thought were going to be great much like this QB class they just liked other guys more. Well the new management just invested premium dollars UFA and draft pick during it’s first try at fixing the OL let’s see how that works out.

In comment 13963589 81_Great_Dane said:

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There was a myth that Reese "ignored" the line. He threw a bunch of draft picks and bushels of free agent dollars at the line. He didn't ignore it; he tried very hard and failed. IMO, failure is worse.

It's like he had terrible taste in olinemen, or looked for all the wrong things.

Meanwhile compare to Hernandez, DG's first olineman.

In comment 13963911 Coach Red Beaulieu said:

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In comment 13963589 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: There was a myth that Reese "ignored" the line. He threw a bunch of draft picks and bushels of free agent dollars at the line. He didn't ignore it; he tried very hard and failed. IMO, failure is worse. It's like he had terrible taste in olinemen, or looked for all the wrong things. Meanwhile compare to Hernandez, DG's first olineman.

Compare to what exactly, the guy hasn't played a single down yet and could be a complete bust, you don't know at this point so a comparison is pointless.

In comment 13963947 gmenatlarge said:

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In comment 13963911 Coach Red Beaulieu said: Quote: In comment 13963589 81_Great_Dane said: Quote: There was a myth that Reese "ignored" the line. He threw a bunch of draft picks and bushels of free agent dollars at the line. He didn't ignore it; he tried very hard and failed. IMO, failure is worse. It's like he had terrible taste in olinemen, or looked for all the wrong things. Meanwhile compare to Hernandez, DG's first olineman. Compare to what exactly, the guy hasn't played a single down yet and could be a complete bust, you don't know at this point so a comparison is pointless.

Other than Richburg, I never liked any of Reese's OL picks, often reaches, or overpaid FAs like Schwartz and Baas. I'm actually excited about Hernandez fwiw.

Kudos for you for being able to read the review:

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Is Bisnowaty a nephew of Dave-Te? regulator : 5/14/2018 3:20 pm : link : reply that was one of the more glowing scouting reports I have ever read... one would think we just drafted the next Tony Boselli!

I'll scream it from the rooftops, but sy clearly lays out the prospects strengths, weaknesses and current pro comp. Can cruise through an entire list of OL in a few short minutes.

About 15 minutes in to the other review, I was still on the part about Pittsburgh being a steel town and Bis excelling at chalk tossing in elementary school.

In comment 13963393 Doomster said:

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He was suppose to be in the mix this year....and we traded a 7th rounder to move up and get him, no less.... Think about this......since we drafted Eli, 14 years ago, we have only drafted 2 OLmen that we have re-signed.....Snee and Beatty, and Beatty just happened to be in the right place at the right time....

We drafted Eli?

In comment 13963393 Doomster said:

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He was suppose to be in the mix this year....and we traded a 7th rounder to move up and get him, no less....

What a heavy cost to pay. A whole 7th round pick. When you have the chance to hold on to a 7th round draft pick, you absolutely must do it.

That happens when you are cut going to 53. He just got cut with the roster limit at 90! He has officially moved from prospect to suspect.

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