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Giants.com: WR Cody Latimer vying for starting role

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2018 1:49 pm
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eric  
CMicks3110 : 5/14/2018 1:56 pm : link
do you think he can be a player?
I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
Anakim : 5/14/2018 2:02 pm : link
But maybe Latimer surprises
I think he's a great candidate  
allstarjim : 5/14/2018 2:07 pm : link
In a perfect situation for him.

He has all the physical tools, there is no reason he can't take a big step forward.
RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
giants#1 : 5/14/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13963366 Anakim said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises


Why? If Engram can be just an *adequate* blocker, he's a massive mismatch for Ds since most LBs (outside Keuchly and a select few others) don't have the speed to cover him. Why take away that aspect of his game?
This would be  
PaulN : 5/14/2018 2:09 pm : link
A great development if he can give us our second outside threat, he has all the tools needed, maybe it is his time.
RE: eric  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13963354 CMicks3110 said:
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do you think he can be a player?


I do. I wish there was more competition there, but Latimer has talent.
Engram will probably move all over the place anyway.  
Brown Recluse : 5/14/2018 2:11 pm : link
As will Barkley.

So whoever earns the "#2" spot shouldn't garner too much attention. If Latimer wins that job, he should do pretty well.

Also interesting to see what kind of jump, if any, Roger Lewis takes this season. Though I think Latimer is better.

Latimer had his best season last year. He caught more than 60%  
Ira : 5/14/2018 2:14 pm : link
of his targets and that was on a team with Trevor Siemian at qb. He's also got good size. Having big receivers should help Barkley get some big runs.
What do you guys think of Travis Rudolph?  
Beezer : 5/14/2018 2:16 pm : link
He's on the younger side, and at moments, showed some ability. Granted, inconsistently. Just wondered what the consensus was here.
RE: RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
BillT : 5/14/2018 2:19 pm : link
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But maybe Latimer surprises



Why? If Engram can be just an *adequate* blocker, he's a massive mismatch for Ds since most LBs (outside Keuchly and a select few others) don't have the speed to cover him. Why take away that aspect of his game?

He's also a huge mismatch for DBs who can't match his size.
RE: What do you guys think of Travis Rudolph?  
Brown Recluse : 5/14/2018 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13963388 Beezer said:
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He's on the younger side, and at moments, showed some ability. Granted, inconsistently. Just wondered what the consensus was here.


I always felt like the optimism around him last year was more about him being a good person than his ability. He just doesn't seem very athletic (on an NFL level) to me.
Nice kick returner and special teams player  
NYG27 : 5/14/2018 2:27 pm : link
Cody Latimer has returned 16 kick offs the last two years and averaged 24.4 per
RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
QB Snacks : 5/14/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 13963366 Anakim said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises


why would they do this?
RE: RE: RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
giants#1 : 5/14/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13963390 BillT said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises



Why? If Engram can be just an *adequate* blocker, he's a massive mismatch for Ds since most LBs (outside Keuchly and a select few others) don't have the speed to cover him. Why take away that aspect of his game?


He's also a huge mismatch for DBs who can't match his size.


Sure, and a good coach/OC will be able to get those matchups even if he lines up at TE for ~65% of his snaps. But if he's primarily a WR, it's a lot harder to them get him matched up on a LB.

And I think a fast TE vs a LB is a bigger mismatch than a 6'3" WR against a smallish CB. The fast TE should be able to get separation and give the QB a bigger window resulting in more big plays. The average speed (for a WR), but tall WR won't get nearly as much separation and while they can win "jump balls" over the smaller CBs, the QB has a smaller window and the CB still has a chance to make a play on the ball and knock it out of the receiver's hands.
RE: RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
Klaatu : 5/14/2018 3:06 pm : link
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But maybe Latimer surprises



why would they do this?


For the same reason they made Brandon Jacobs a TE.

Oh, wait...they didn't.
Actually just hoping Latimer could take on main KR and primary gunner  
Jimmy Googs : 5/14/2018 3:24 pm : link
on special teams, and a reserve WR when guys get dinged.

Becoming a starting WR on the outside seems like a big step up. Sounds good but not sure he has developed that part of his NFL game.
RE: RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
Anakim : 5/14/2018 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13963379 giants#1 said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises



Why? If Engram can be just an *adequate* blocker, he's a massive mismatch for Ds since most LBs (outside Keuchly and a select few others) don't have the speed to cover him. Why take away that aspect of his game?


Understood, but Engram can be just as effective (and has proven so) on the outside. Actually, I think he was more effective on the outside than he was in-line.
RE: Actually just hoping Latimer could take on main KR and primary gunner  
giants#1 : 5/14/2018 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13963475 Jimmy Googs said:
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on special teams, and a reserve WR when guys get dinged.

Becoming a starting WR on the outside seems like a big step up. Sounds good but not sure he has developed that part of his NFL game.


He'd be the "starter" by default. The primary (i.e. most snaps) skill position players are likely: Beckham, Shepard, Barkley, Engram, and Ellison. People just think a "slot" WR like Shepard can't be the #2 WR.
Well one thing for sure, Latimer has walked into the perfect  
PatersonPlank : 5/14/2018 4:36 pm : link
situation for him. If he can't make it here, he can't anywhere (new york new york). He's got virtually zero competition for the possession wr spot.
RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
GuzzaBlue : 5/14/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13963366 Anakim said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises


In certain formations, but would lose part of his value if you permanently move to WR. Why have him matched up on corners when you can find mismatches on LB's and S.
If somehow Latimer pans out,  
Doomster : 5/14/2018 5:26 pm : link
what a boost that would be.....but we have seen too many injuries to our receivers the last 6 seasons.....we still need another....

Guys like Lewis/Rudolph are not the answer.....but we can only make so many moves, and can't fix everything.....so here's hoping, Latimer is a pleasant surprise....
RE: RE: RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/14/2018 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13963461 Klaatu said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises



why would they do this?



For the same reason they made Brandon Jacobs a TE.

Oh, wait...they didn't.


I thought that was a LB
RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
NYDCBlue : 5/14/2018 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13963366 Anakim said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises


Shumur is a respected offensive mind, so I am hopeful he can use shifts and motions to get our guys lined up ideally. With a smart offensive mind we really do not need a big X #2 receiver. We should line up with two of either TE or RB on most plays. Then just flex Engram or Barkley outside to the edge, leaving Sterling Shepard in the slot where he belongs....

Trust me guys. I have never played a down of football in my life. If I can figure that much out, Shurmur will do 11x better. He is not all talk and fluffed up genius. He has a track tecord.
Feel much better about Lattimer  
5BowlsSoon : 5/14/2018 8:22 pm : link
Than Lewis or Rudolph. That Mark Chapman kid looks awfully promising too.
Thanks!  
TC : 5/14/2018 11:16 pm : link
I really liked Latimer coming out of school, and wanted the Giants to get him. He was very tough going for the ball, and about as good as many RB's when he had it in his hands. His pro career is both a surprise and a disappointment.

Maybe he can do something here.
Latimer is a special teams ace  
Peppers : 5/15/2018 6:00 am : link
One of the better punt coverage guys in the NFL. If that's the "starting role" we're talking about than, yes.

Reality is, he's been a disappointment as a WR considering he was a former 2nd round pick. Denver tried to hand him the 3rd spot and he couldn't beat out Benny Fowler or Jordan Norwood.

In my opinion NYG won't be asking Latimer to win a "starting" spot. He'll just need to carve out a spot for himself as a role player and excel on coverage units. With Engram being used more as a flex TE and Ellison seeing more time inline, NYG will have enough starting options and big bodies on the field for possession targets.

Seems like gallman  
idiotsavant : 5/15/2018 7:55 am : link
Could also excel at special teams and function well in this O, run catch, what have you.
Agree about competition  
Bluesbreaker : 5/15/2018 10:41 am : link
But he checks all the boxes seems like he has his head on straight pretty likable perfect opportunity .
RE: RE: RE: I'd like to see Engram get a chance at the #2 WR spot  
Brown_Hornet : 5/15/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13963390 BillT said:
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But maybe Latimer surprises



Why? If Engram can be just an *adequate* blocker, he's a massive mismatch for Ds since most LBs (outside Keuchly and a select few others) don't have the speed to cover him. Why take away that aspect of his game?
He'll be matched up with DBs as a TE as well.

He's also a huge mismatch for DBs who can't match his size.
When I worry about this roster  
djm : 5/15/2018 4:42 pm : link
I donít think about #2 wr at all. The giants have four big time weapons along with a veteran capable QB and a LT in place. Solid coaching will make that work.
Not sure why wide receiver isnít a massive concern  
bhill410 : 5/16/2018 3:52 am : link
We currently have 2 nfl caliber wide outs, both of which have a propensity for getting hurt. It isnít like our q.b. has looked all that great throwing to backup wrs over the years. The big excuse for Elis performance last year was ďlook who he is throwing toĒ, well if obj goes down itís the same flock of characters plus some new special team depth signings and undrafted free agents.

This front offices inability to address wide receiver and nickle corner are concerning and frankly reminiscent of some of the issues that plagued the panthers under gettleman. Think about some of the duds Cam has had to throw at over the years
All we can do is hope Latimer finds his game here in East Rutherford  
SGMen : 5/16/2018 8:09 am : link
If he does put it together as the #2 WR, our offense will be tough to stop. You double OBJ; you have a LB or SS "shadowing" Barkley; and, Engram is a mismatch for LB's and DB's.

If the OL can give Eli time he'll have a good season.
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