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NFT: Should MLB teams be more flexiable

mitch300 : 5/15/2018 1:24 pm
when it comes to rain forecast. The Yanks are scheduled to play the Nationals today and tomorrow. Both days call for rain. However, the rain is not scheduled to start today until after 5. To avoid lousy weather even if they play tonight, should they move the game up to a day game today. I know fans will complain because they are working or not available. However, if the game gets played and starts at 9pm and has a few rain delays you know that there will only be a few thousand in the stadium. With the weather being like it is going forward all tickets should have a disclaimer stating that the game time may be changed due to weather.
as much as I'd love to say it's the fans that matter  
Giantsfan79 : 5/15/2018 1:41 pm : link
the reason no sports league would ever adopt your idea is because of the advertising money that would be lost.
Makes no sense...  
Jim in Tampa : 5/15/2018 1:53 pm : link
Especially moving a night game up to an afternoon start time.

Very few people would be able to adjust their schedules.

Most people work during the day and most kids are in school, but even those with some schedule flexibility may already have commitments or just might not get the message in time.

And what about all the people that work at the stadium...ticket takers, ushers, concessions people. How many of them can just drop everything and show up earlier?

I don't think you've really thought this idea through.
RE: Makes no sense...  
mitch300 : 5/15/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13964466 Jim in Tampa said:
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Especially moving a night game up to an afternoon start time.

Very few people would be able to adjust their schedules.

Most people work during the day and most kids are in school, but even those with some schedule flexibility may already have commitments or just might not get the message in time.

And what about all the people that work at the stadium...ticket takers, ushers, concessions people. How many of them can just drop everything and show up earlier?

I don't think you've really thought this idea through.

Yes and no. LOL Going forward though, all employees would have some sort of text alert. Let's face it, everybody looks at the weather. So knowing that rain is coming the employees need to be aware that they may be called in early. It is just a thought. It's a shame that it is clear right now to play and the game maybe not even be played tonight. Also, fans can opt for alerts on their phones of possible game time changes. It's not a perfect solution.
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Enzo : 5/15/2018 2:25 pm : link
change so frequently that it's simply not worth the logistical nightmare this would involve. And it's not just fans and players, you have extra NYPD detailed for games, extra subway service, stadium workers, media members, TV schedules, TV/radio production personnel....
Another question for me would be  
Bill L : 5/15/2018 2:26 pm : link
can you push the limits to where players should just play through the conditions? I suppose it changes pitchers grips and controls, maybe improves it, but if you keep changing balls as they become water-logged, is there anything inherent to baseball which would make playing in rain too untenable?
RE: RE: Makes no sense...  
Jim in Tampa : 5/15/2018 2:36 pm : link
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Especially moving a night game up to an afternoon start time.

Very few people would be able to adjust their schedules.

Most people work during the day and most kids are in school, but even those with some schedule flexibility may already have commitments or just might not get the message in time.

And what about all the people that work at the stadium...ticket takers, ushers, concessions people. How many of them can just drop everything and show up earlier?

I don't think you've really thought this idea through.


Yes and no. LOL Going forward though, all employees would have some sort of text alert. Let's face it, everybody looks at the weather. So knowing that rain is coming the employees need to be aware that they may be called in early. It is just a thought. It's a shame that it is clear right now to play and the game maybe not even be played tonight. Also, fans can opt for alerts on their phones of possible game time changes. It's not a perfect solution.


It's not just a matter of everyone getting the message on time. Most fans don't have schedule flexibility and if the possibility existed that teams could move start times whenever they wanted to, advance ticket sales would also decline.

And do you really think that the people who work at the stadium for essentially 81 days of the year, don't have full or part time jobs in addition to their stadium gigs?

How can you force them to come in to work if they have other work commitments?

How can you insist that they be "on call" for their current compensation?

And as someone else has already pointed out...what about the advertisers that paid $XX for a spot on a prime time evening broadcast only to see their ad moved to an afternoon slot?

You idea isn't just "not a perfect solution" it's a bad idea that creates a lot more problems than it solves.
RE: Another question for me would be  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/15/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13964541 Bill L said:
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can you push the limits to where players should just play through the conditions? I suppose it changes pitchers grips and controls, maybe improves it, but if you keep changing balls as they become water-logged, is there anything inherent to baseball which would make playing in rain too untenable?

Well, thereís the issue of a pitcher losing control of a 98 MPH fastball and killing someone who didnít see it coming in the rain.

Baseball already pushes the envelope pretty far. 30-40 years ago there were way more rainouts than there are today.
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mitch300 : 5/15/2018 2:54 pm : link
admit my idea has a lot of holes in it. However, if they land up playing a DH on Thursday, advertising dollars may take a hit. How do they staff the workers now when they have a rainout and play the next day which is a scheduled day off.
Advertising dollars.  
The Dude : 5/15/2018 2:55 pm : link
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how about using the massive amount of $$ they make to  
JoeBDieHard : 5/15/2018 2:58 pm : link
build stadiums with retractable roofs?
like what should have happened with MetLife.
RE: how about using the massive amount of $$ they make to  
mitch300 : 5/15/2018 3:03 pm : link
In comment 13964623 JoeBDieHard said:
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build stadiums with retractable roofs?
like what should have happened with MetLife.

Don Lagreca feels that anyone that builds a stadium from now on, it should be mandatory that a retractable roof be included.
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Gatorade Dunk : 5/15/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 13964564 Jim in Tampa said:
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Especially moving a night game up to an afternoon start time.

Very few people would be able to adjust their schedules.

Most people work during the day and most kids are in school, but even those with some schedule flexibility may already have commitments or just might not get the message in time.

And what about all the people that work at the stadium...ticket takers, ushers, concessions people. How many of them can just drop everything and show up earlier?

I don't think you've really thought this idea through.


Yes and no. LOL Going forward though, all employees would have some sort of text alert. Let's face it, everybody looks at the weather. So knowing that rain is coming the employees need to be aware that they may be called in early. It is just a thought. It's a shame that it is clear right now to play and the game maybe not even be played tonight. Also, fans can opt for alerts on their phones of possible game time changes. It's not a perfect solution.



It's not just a matter of everyone getting the message on time. Most fans don't have schedule flexibility and if the possibility existed that teams could move start times whenever they wanted to, advance ticket sales would also decline.

And do you really think that the people who work at the stadium for essentially 81 days of the year, don't have full or part time jobs in addition to their stadium gigs?

How can you force them to come in to work if they have other work commitments?

How can you insist that they be "on call" for their current compensation?

And as someone else has already pointed out...what about the advertisers that paid $XX for a spot on a prime time evening broadcast only to see their ad moved to an afternoon slot?

You idea isn't just "not a perfect solution" it's a bad idea that creates a lot more problems than it solves.

It also scratches an itch that isn't universal - the business side of MLB teams don't particularly mind rain delays. Concession sales keep chugging right along and merch sales often increase.
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GMAN56 : 5/16/2018 9:12 am : link
I have a fulltime day job but work part time at an arena here in NY (could also do a stadium as well but the time to get there doesnt fit my schedule) and moving a night game to day time would TOTALLY interfere with those who have 9-5 jobs. Thats when you get the retirees to come and do the early games. One time I got scheduled for an 11am game, took the day from my main job and then got bumped from the game and then made plans that day and then got asked to see if I can work that day.

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Especially moving a night game up to an afternoon start time.

Very few people would be able to adjust their schedules.

Most people work during the day and most kids are in school, but even those with some schedule flexibility may already have commitments or just might not get the message in time.

And what about all the people that work at the stadium...ticket takers, ushers, concessions people. How many of them can just drop everything and show up earlier?

I don't think you've really thought this idea through.


Yes and no. LOL Going forward though, all employees would have some sort of text alert. Let's face it, everybody looks at the weather. So knowing that rain is coming the employees need to be aware that they may be called in early. It is just a thought. It's a shame that it is clear right now to play and the game maybe not even be played tonight. Also, fans can opt for alerts on their phones of possible game time changes. It's not a perfect solution.



It's not just a matter of everyone getting the message on time. Most fans don't have schedule flexibility and if the possibility existed that teams could move start times whenever they wanted to, advance ticket sales would also decline.

And do you really think that the people who work at the stadium for essentially 81 days of the year, don't have full or part time jobs in addition to their stadium gigs?

How can you force them to come in to work if they have other work commitments?

How can you insist that they be "on call" for their current compensation?

And as someone else has already pointed out...what about the advertisers that paid $XX for a spot on a prime time evening broadcast only to see their ad moved to an afternoon slot?

You idea isn't just "not a perfect solution" it's a bad idea that creates a lot more problems than it solves.
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