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Lorenzo Carter: The Next LT?

mittenedman : 5/17/2018 9:39 am
Before anyone gets mad (and it would piss me off) - this is very much tongue-in-cheek.

Lorenzo Carter: 6'5" 250 lbs.

Lawrence Taylor: 6'3" 240 lbs.

One of the underscores of rookie mini-camp was Carter being unexpectedly explosive off the snap. Sure, it could be meaningless, but it could be the beginning of Carter wow'ing observers. Isn't it nice to not be able to dismiss the possibility we're sitting on a stud pass rushing OLB? What ultimately makes or breaks a 34 is how good the OLBs are.

There was this little nugget from his college teammate Aaron Davis:

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"Man, that guy - he looks like he's LeBron on the football field," Davis recalled with a laugh Saturday, adding: "I mean, as soon as he walks through the door, you're like, 'This guy.' You don't see too many people who look like him, and are that athletic, so any time you bring that to the table, and he has the work ethic to back it up, you're gonna be someone who's highly touted."


Georgia stacked him and used him to cover TE's but he still managed 15 sacks. That Kirby Smart D is stacked and makes it difficult for any one individual to pile up #'s or rush the passer full time. Think Carter beats out Kareem Martin at LOLB and gives the D a much-needed boost in team speed.
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He better be...  
Jerry K : 5/17/2018 10:28 am : link
We should have picked a QB instead.
Davis Webb is 6'5" and Peyton Manning is 6'5"  
Heisenberg : 5/17/2018 10:30 am : link
I'm just sayin...
Would be pretty awesome if he becomes 75% of what LT was  
The_Boss : 5/17/2018 10:31 am : link
One of the golf pros at my country club here is a UGA alum and was raving about his athleticism during the season. I like the kid a lot, but come on with this LT stuff....
A little early  
Giant John : 5/17/2018 10:32 am : link
For the anointing wouldnít you say? Iím sure he appreciates the comparison and associated pressure that it brings.
Someone was asking for it by starting a thread comparing anyone  
Ira : 5/17/2018 10:35 am : link
to LT. But that aside, I think we got a very good one in Carter. He's got size, speed and football smarts. He won't be as good as LT, but as a pass rusher, I think he'll more than replace JPP.
I am excited that Carter is a Giant  
Rjanyg : 5/17/2018 10:38 am : link
but he WILL NOT be the next LT. The closest thing we had to LT was Derrick Thomas and that was a long time ago. There will never be another LT.
Bus stations.  
Klaatu : 5/17/2018 10:43 am : link
'Nuff said.
Carter  
Archer : 5/17/2018 10:48 am : link
Carter coming out of High School was a 5 star recruit.
He was highly touted and great things were expected from him.

He has all of the innate physical attributes and he has shown phenomenal skill in flashes.

If Bettcher can figure out a way to maximize Carter's talents, he could be special.
Sounds like the anti-LT  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 5/17/2018 10:52 am : link
LT slept in meetings never worked out and I don't recall him being shredded like Steve Weatherford.


"Man, that guy - he looks like he's LeBron on the football field," Davis recalled with a laugh Saturday, adding: "I mean, as soon as he walks through the door, you're like, 'This guy.' You don't see too many people who look like him, and are that athletic, so any time you bring that to the table, and he has the work ethic to back it up, you're gonna be someone who's highly touted."
And maybe Kyle Lauletta will be the next Joe Montana.  
Section331 : 5/17/2018 10:58 am : link
Come on, can we stop with the hyperbole? I'm very excited by Carter's prospects, but no one is doing him any favors by comparing him to LT.
RE: The next LT will  
Sec 103 : 5/17/2018 11:02 am : link
In comment 13966371 Bubba said:
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arrive when Moses parts the Hudson.

The next LT has been coming for eons....
yup of course he will be  
ArcadeSlumlord : 5/17/2018 11:05 am : link
get this mans his cocaine and he set!
I do settle for  
joeinpa : 5/17/2018 11:06 am : link
The first L. C.

Let s go baby!
There will never be another  
eric2425ny : 5/17/2018 11:13 am : link
LT just like there will never be another Jordan. He changed the game. A lot of rich left tackles out there thanks to him.
The Next LT..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/17/2018 11:18 am : link
will have a career arc closer to Josh Gordon or Will Hill these days.
LT  
Fred in Atlanta : 5/17/2018 11:28 am : link
was NFL Defensive player of the year his first two years.
A 240 fast LB then  
Carl in CT : 5/17/2018 11:32 am : link
Is a 300 LB who runs a 4.3 today.
One of the main reasons why LT will not be replicated...  
EricJ : 5/17/2018 11:36 am : link
is mostly due to talent but also because players today want other things besides "winning". Money is more important, marketing, and protecting yourself from injury, etc etc.

RE: The Next LT..  
DonQuixote : 5/17/2018 11:41 am : link
In comment 13966511 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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will have a career arc closer to Josh Gordon or Will Hill these days.


Thatís not fair. Players are getting stronger and faster yes, but LT developing in todayís game would benefit from all that, plus his obvious talents. He was the very best. Maybe if you plunk Babe Ruth into a modern MLB lineup, he would suck, but thatís not really fair.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/17/2018 11:43 am : link
I'm talking about having a career arc filled with suspensions.
The next LT was be coming along for the last 30 years!  
SterlingArcher : 5/17/2018 11:46 am : link
There will never be another LT!
RE: RE: The Next LT..  
section125 : 5/17/2018 11:46 am : link
In comment 13966542 DonQuixote said:
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In comment 13966511 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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will have a career arc closer to Josh Gordon or Will Hill these days.



Thatís not fair. Players are getting stronger and faster yes, but LT developing in todayís game would benefit from all that, plus his obvious talents. He was the very best. Maybe if you plunk Babe Ruth into a modern MLB lineup, he would suck, but thatís not really fair.


Think if you plunked Babe in today's baseball he would still be the Babe.
Until like FMiC was saying, he was suspended for drug/alcohol use.....
Well then  
Beer Man : 5/17/2018 1:03 pm : link
lets just say he is the JPP of LBs. (;>
LC  
Dragon : 5/17/2018 1:24 pm : link
Looking forward to see what he can do but rookies are normally trying to survive on the field we got OBJ a few years back itís not often thatís repeated in the same decade.
A combination of LT & Reggie White  
arniefez : 5/17/2018 1:26 pm : link
with a little Carl Banks thrown in but better.
3rd round pick...he doesn't have a chance  
Jimmy Googs : 5/17/2018 1:31 pm : link
Oh, Reese has moved on...
Maybe he can be  
David B. : 5/17/2018 1:50 pm : link
The JPP of TEs.
Awesome, so now we have  
barens : 5/17/2018 2:14 pm : link
the next LT, and the next Jim Brown/Barry Sanders!!
After Nate Solder?  
Samiam : 5/17/2018 2:17 pm : link
Iím guessing Wheeler
The thing that stands out about Carter  
Knee of Theismann : 5/17/2018 2:22 pm : link
When watching him play is his closing speed. He runs a 4.4 40, but he also has amazing short-distance acceleration. It seems he can get hung up on blocks sometimes, but once he's free, he closes the space between him and the Quarterback faster than anyone I've ever seen.
RE: The next LT will  
Victor in CT : 5/17/2018 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13966371 Bubba said:
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arrive when Moses parts the Hudson.


this
Study English  
BurlyMan : 5/17/2018 3:16 pm : link
then football
I'd Settle for  
HugeS : 5/17/2018 4:28 pm : link
The next Markus Golden or Chandler Jones. Lets see if Bettcher can unlock pass rush potential out of Carter and Vernon the way he did the Zona edge guys.
I don't question the mental state of someone dreaming  
baadbill : 5/17/2018 5:22 pm : link
about the joy it would bring to see another LT play... but I'll get out the straight jacket for anyone mental enough to make such a suggestion a year later
L.C.  
Montreal Man : 5/17/2018 6:09 pm : link
Rhymes with L.T. That's about as close as it gets.
Carl in Conn +1  
idiotsavant : 5/17/2018 6:30 pm : link
. different game now that your opponents OT is 320lbs as opposed to 275lbs.
Just my opinion  
Dan Blue : 5/17/2018 8:31 pm : link
But I think heís going to be really good. Yes thereís a big difference between being really good and being LT good.
If he can do some zone style PD that's huge  
idiotsavant : 5/17/2018 8:46 pm : link
You can switch up collins (shadow style Vs TE, or zone vs TE, for example, or blitz, etc) and Carter (chase, zone PD , or true blitz but maybe not the 4/3 DE type stuff) whose coming whose going.

If you line up Collins over the tight end  
idiotsavant : 5/17/2018 8:54 pm : link
Then Collins blitzes, instead of covers, you need someone who has enough speed to jump that TE pass route. Or the other way around. Carter has the speed.

I don't think you will see Martin in that roll, but on the field as a variable line piece more or less.
This thread  
chopperhatch : 5/17/2018 9:02 pm : link
Sucks.
Yes.  
short lease : 5/17/2018 10:11 pm : link
Well actually, he will have to change his last name to something that begins with a "T".

You can't spell Carter and start it with a "T" - that would be Tarter. And, people would probably start to call him Tarter Sauce. I don't like it .. I don't like it at all.
Following up,  
chopperhatch : 5/17/2018 11:27 pm : link
I totally GET what the OP is trying to say...not sure so sure why you guys cant play along.

I interpreted the OP as suggesting Carter could be the NEXT (as in same type of player) LT in terms of his athletic similarites to #56. A pass rushing demon who is a OLB/DE tweener (that's literally what LT would be in today's game) with the athleticism to be effective in pass coverage as well as against the run. Something that is a very rare combo for the position. For instance, Leonard Floyd was attractive for having TWO of the three abilities I mentioned (his slightness in stature suggested his being a liability against the run at the pro level) and he was a top ten pick.

I get that Carter was a 3rd rounder, but I also get the OP in that he has those the rare combo of attributes to be a 3 way force at OLB....as well as quite a bit of production at the highest level in college.

I highly doubt the OP was suggesting that Lorenzo Carter is going to affect the game like Lawrence Taylor. Rather that he could be the first type of player that LT was for our team (because we havent had a player or even scheme that valued skill set like that) based on his athleticism.

I get the initial post/idea. While Von Miller is the closest thing to LT, Carter has freakish athleticism and physical attributes that can have similar game wrecking potential. Never thought much of Leonard Floyd because of his build...not his game. Carter has similar athleticism with a NFL frame...and now we have a place for that kind of player on our defense
"looks like he's LeBron on the football field"  
WideRight : 5/18/2018 8:08 am : link

Is that supposed to be a compliment?
And Von Miller is a one-trick pony  
WideRight : 5/18/2018 8:09 am : link
Nothing close to LT

Get real
It sure would be great if a third-rounder  
81_Great_Dane : 5/18/2018 10:51 am : link
turned into the most disruptive, dominating defender in NFL history. But maybe wait until he's actually played in something resembling a pro game before we start with that comparison?

I mean, at some point people were excited about Damontre Moore, too. Some guys blossom, some guys fold.
Huh?  
Rong5611 : 5/18/2018 10:55 am : link
There will never be another LT, even if this guy turns out to be great.
Exactly as chopperhatch said  
idiotsavant : 5/18/2018 11:40 am : link
Except, again, if it's a combo lb/de/PD player you seek. Rare indeed.

The DE part is what has changed the most since the 1980s due to an average 40-even a 50lb increase in the size of the O Tackles ...that your DEs need to take on.

Which is why the ILB/OLB duties have changed since then as well.

Basically, bigger for the line or even faster for shadow or zone PD. ..usually you have to choose one, as 289lb ers who can also fly are even more rare than 240 ers who could fly then were rare.
One of my favorite picks  
Bluesbreaker : 5/19/2018 12:37 pm : link
of the draft . He has the tools to be a menace on passing downs and we need all the help we can get rushing the QB .
The mold was broke there will never be another LT .
Why was his  
XBRONX : 5/19/2018 12:53 pm : link
sack numbers so low?
Given what his responsibilities were  
mittenedman : 5/19/2018 2:26 pm : link
They werent. The Dawgs had many pass rushers. They had Carter off the ball & at ILB covering TEs because it was best for the team.
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