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NFT: Yankee Talk: Teixeira 'not surprised' by Cano suspension

Stan in LA : 5/18/2018 1:01 pm
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Robinson Cano's positive test for a banned substance and subsequent 80-game suspension announced this week came as no surprise to one of his former New York Yankees teammates.

Mark Teixeira overlapped with Cano for five seasons in New York. During a guest appearance on the Michael Kay Show on 98.7 ESPN New York on Thursday, the former first baseman was asked if he ever suspected Cano of using performance-enhancing substances.

"Yeah, I don't really want to get into too much detail. I love Robbie. I'm just not surprised," said Teixeira, a baseball analyst for ESPN since retiring after the 2016 season. "I don't really want to go too much further, but I think a lot of people are kind of saying the same thing."

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That's not how you stick up for a teammmate  
CromartiesKid21 : 5/18/2018 1:09 pm : link
That helped win a WS
Well once you say your aren’t surpised  
UConn4523 : 5/18/2018 1:12 pm : link
you already started backing the bus up. Might as well just go all in at that point.
RE: That's not how you stick up for a teammmate  
DennyInDenville : 5/18/2018 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13967663 CromartiesKid21 said:
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That helped win a WS

Yup, should have taken the high road.

If they weren't WS teammates I'd say it's fair game.
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I am Ninja : 5/18/2018 1:38 pm : link
im not worlds biggest cano fan, but teixiera should tread lightly here
probably did the roids together  
GiantsFan84 : 5/18/2018 1:44 pm : link
wasn't tex always rumored to be a steroid guy too?
if players know others are cheating  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/18/2018 1:45 pm : link
they should out them on the spot. Unfortunately, they are in a bind: they are teammates, they spend more time together than with their families, there's a camaraderie.

There can't be a desire by fans to rid PEDs from sports and then harangue clean players from making comments about things they may know about guys in their own clubhouse.
I don't care about PEDs  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2018 1:47 pm : link
Other than using them as a club to smack teams/players I don't like, such as the 2002 Angels or David Ortiz :)
Ha!  
Bill L : 5/18/2018 1:51 pm : link
At least you're honest about it.
RE: if players know others are cheating  
mfsd : 5/18/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13967704 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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they should out them on the spot. Unfortunately, they are in a bind: they are teammates, they spend more time together than with their families, there's a camaraderie.

There can't be a desire by fans to rid PEDs from sports and then harangue clean players from making comments about things they may know about guys in their own clubhouse.


Yup, the code of silence amongst players has been strong for a long time. Take Canseco - universally derided by fellow players, fans, and owners for going full bore and outing himself and other players and the game in general - and yet from all we know now, he was one of the few actually being honest.
Hear the interview while driving home yesterday...  
figgy2989 : 5/18/2018 2:20 pm : link
And I was surprised that Tex even made a comment. For a guy who rarely said or did anything controversial in his career (which I believe landed him the ESPN gig), it was strange that he would say this about a former teammate. It was literally the first question Kay asked in the interview and instead of just avoiding giving an answer, he talked about it for a couple of minutes.

Was just a little surprising hearing it from him as I thought he was always a guy who took the high road.
if Robinson Cano is a cheater  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/18/2018 2:59 pm : link
then why is Teixeira staying silent considered "the high road" given that Cano is denying cheating?
RE: if Robinson Cano is a cheater  
DennyInDenville : 5/18/2018 3:01 pm : link
In comment 13967775 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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then why is Teixeira staying silent considered "the high road" given that Cano is denying cheating?

2009 brothers .

He's saying he's not surprised  
MetsAreBack : 5/18/2018 3:42 pm : link
that's not the same thing as "knowing" a teammate is using. It would have been one hell of an accusation to make back then - what if he'd been wrong?
RE: He's saying he's not surprised  
Big Rick in FL : 5/18/2018 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13967804 MetsAreBack said:
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that's not the same thing as "knowing" a teammate is using. It would have been one hell of an accusation to make back then - what if he'd been wrong?


I'm sure if they asked about 75% of the MLB he'd say the same thing. There are a lot of juicers in baseball. I've met well over 1000 baseball players and you can tell a lot of guys aren't supposed to be as big as they are. Brett Boone & Jason Giambi stand out the most. There forearms were just fucking ridiculous in person. Also I'm friends with a few current players and a few former players. They've all said steroids runs rampant in MLB and in the minors.
Tex is a big mouth  
Sec 103 : 5/18/2018 5:21 pm : link
Never ever rat out a former colleague.
RE: He's saying he's not surprised  
UConn4523 : 5/18/2018 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13967804 MetsAreBack said:
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that's not the same thing as "knowing" a teammate is using. It would have been one hell of an accusation to make back then - what if he'd been wrong?


I don’t think it matters. Saying what he did removes the benefit of the doubt, which is shitty considering they were teammates. Just a weird statement, one you’d think he wouldn’t say.

“Man that’s unfortunate, would have never guessed that with Robbie” is something more along the lines of what I would think Tex would say. Or, “Thats unfortunate, really don’t know anything about it, though”.
RE: RE: He's saying he's not surprised  
figgy2989 : 5/18/2018 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13967865 UConn4523 said:
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that's not the same thing as "knowing" a teammate is using. It would have been one hell of an accusation to make back then - what if he'd been wrong?



I don’t think it matters. Saying what he did removes the benefit of the doubt, which is shitty considering they were teammates. Just a weird statement, one you’d think he wouldn’t say.

“Man that’s unfortunate, would have never guessed that with Robbie” is something more along the lines of what I would think Tex would say. Or, “Thats unfortunate, really don’t know anything about it, though”.


This was Francessa’s take too. Tex could have just bypassed the question and moved on.
I don't have a problem at all with his answer  
Matt M. : 5/18/2018 5:40 pm : link
I would have more of a problem with him lying, as some here suggest he should have done. He's not throwing Cano under the bus. Cano did that to himself.

His answer isn't an admission of knowledge of use. It is a fair answer that still leaves enough doubt to nlt be an outright accusation or outing. And if he did know for certain, I would have no problem with him saying as much under these circumstances.
Just to keep from starting a new thread on it  
chopperhatch : 5/18/2018 6:06 pm : link
Lets talk starting pitching. The Mets situation and what they are planning on doing with deGrom and Syndergaard is an interesting one.

Is a deal for either possible? What would you be willing to part with?

Personally, Syndegaard is the one pitcher in baseball right now that I would unload our farm on. I would like to keep 2 of Frazier, Florial and Sheffield if possible. But that is negotiable. Getting a young arm like that to pair with Sevvy would be unreal.

I would like deGrom, but wont be held over the flames for him.

I normally wouldnt jump the gun like this, but Sonny Gray is probably on his last straw before being relegated to number 5 starter. Tanaka is going through one of his "things" and I think he will be fine. But looking at Houston, that staff scares the lights out of me. Tanaka and Cbass as 3 and 4 would compete with that Stros in October.

Any other names on the radar that wont cost the Yanks' collective scrotum?

People with knowledge of the Sox' farm, do they have enough in their farm to make a run at one of the two Mets pitchers?
RE: I don't have a problem at all with his answer  
UConn4523 : 5/18/2018 6:18 pm : link
In comment 13967872 Matt M. said:
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I would have more of a problem with him lying, as some here suggest he should have done. He's not throwing Cano under the bus. Cano did that to himself.

His answer isn't an admission of knowledge of use. It is a fair answer that still leaves enough doubt to nlt be an outright accusation or outing. And if he did know for certain, I would have no problem with him saying as much under these circumstances.


This isn’t court. Lying happens all the time, and I’d expect some sort of code between myself and my teammates. Robbie did it to himself, he doesn’t need a teammate piling it on.
Didi's slash numbers since getting kicked in the head at 2nd base...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/18/2018 6:28 pm : link
026/098/026
RE: RE: I don't have a problem at all with his answer  
BigBlueShock : 5/18/2018 7:07 pm : link
In comment 13967894 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 13967872 Matt M. said:


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I would have more of a problem with him lying, as some here suggest he should have done. He's not throwing Cano under the bus. Cano did that to himself.

His answer isn't an admission of knowledge of use. It is a fair answer that still leaves enough doubt to nlt be an outright accusation or outing. And if he did know for certain, I would have no problem with him saying as much under these circumstances.



This isn’t court. Lying happens all the time, and I’d expect some sort of code between myself and my teammates. Robbie did it to himself, he doesn’t need a teammate piling it on.

LaGreca had a great analogy on the Kay show. He said when have have a group of really close friends and some of you suspect that one of your friends is doing some things that may be shady, you just kind of deal with it because he’s your friend. But you’re certainly not going to “turn him in”, he’s your friend. But when he gets busted for these shady dealings and someone asks you if you are surprise, there is nothing wrong with saying, no I’m not surprised. It isn’t your job to lie for your friend that just got busted. He did it to himself. Why lie?

Frankly, I like the honesty. But I can see how it rubs people the wrong way too.
Geez, we all know the  
section125 : 5/18/2018 7:07 pm : link
Dominicans have been cheating for years. See Big Ploppy..

If you didn't suspect Cano was juicing then feel slighted by Teix.

I don't. I'm not surprised.....
RE: Geez, we all know the  
Jay on the Island : 5/18/2018 7:13 pm : link
In comment 13967925 section125 said:
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Dominicans have been cheating for years. See Big Ploppy..

If you didn't suspect Cano was juicing then feel slighted by Teix.

I don't. I'm not surprised.....

Yeah why can't they play clean like Arod, Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Giambi, Palmeiro, etc.
I wouldn’t mind the honesty if they weren’t teammates  
UConn4523 : 5/18/2018 7:17 pm : link
if this was one of my friends in life I wouldn’t say what he did, for example.
The mafioso attitude on here  
mattlawson : 5/18/2018 7:19 pm : link
Is entertaining to say the least.
RE: The mafioso attitude on here  
UConn4523 : 5/18/2018 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13967931 mattlawson said:
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Is entertaining to say the least.


Really? Didn’t realize how many narcs were on BBI.

For the record I despise players who use steroids. I have no sympathy for Cabo if he is guilty. But Tex is a big pussy for this.
Even if Teix did know for sure back in the day,  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/18/2018 7:28 pm : link
I don't really blame him for not saying anything. If he did know for a fact and say something at that time, he would've fractured the locker room and made it into an issue for the franchise and possibly sunk the season and there would've been a media firestorm with the other players, as well. So yeah, I don't blame him, if he indeed did know for a fact back then.
Not surprised by Teixeira  
JoeyBigBlue : 5/18/2018 7:32 pm : link
Commenting on a former teammate. That guy was Corporate his whole time. Played to maintain his bigass house CT. He didn’t care about the team or the city, just his pockets. Just say you’re disappointed in Cano and keep it moving.
Need a game thread, right?  
wigs in nyc : 5/18/2018 7:52 pm : link
This one’s got some bad juju.
I can't believe  
lightemup : 5/18/2018 8:05 pm : link
how many people have a problem with what Tex said. It's not his job to protect steroid users. You know what is his job? Being a baseball analyst. What kind of credibility would he have if he said he was surprised with anybody, outside of Jeter, was using steroids. I don't care if they were teammates. Tex doesn't owe Robbie anything
Someone seems jealous, probably because Cano makes like 30 mil per  
Jerry "Championship" Reese : 5/18/2018 8:09 pm : link
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RE: Someone seems jealous, probably because Cano makes like 30 mil per  
section125 : 5/18/2018 8:16 pm : link
In comment 13967976 Jerry "Championship" Reese said:
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Ahh, no. Stop being a jackass.
Part of me feels guys like Tex  
djm : 5/18/2018 8:17 pm : link
Should say less about guys who get pinched, like cano. But then I wonder how I’d feel if I wasn’t taking juice and others were. I might talk some shit too. If you put yourself in the shoes of one of the players not juicing....
RE: RE: The mafioso attitude on here  
BigBlueShock : 5/18/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 13967932 UConn4523 said:
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Is entertaining to say the least.



Really? Didn’t realize how many narcs were on BBI.

For the record I despise players who use steroids. I have no sympathy for Cabo if he is guilty. But Tex is a big pussy for this.

I’m not sure you know what a narc is. Wouldn’t a narc ran to someone while it was happening? Someone saying that they aren’t surprised by something after the fact is now considered a narc? Who knew!

Hey, I’m not surprised that my co worker was caught cheating on his wife. Now I’m a freakin narc, damn it!
Yeah I know what it is  
UConn4523 : 5/18/2018 8:21 pm : link
I called BBI Narcs, not Teixeira, read my earlier posts. He didn’t rat on him but he pulled the old “I’m not going to talk about it, but....”

Grand scheme of things, I really don’t care. Just weird to see him not say “no comment” and move on.
It’s all good, UCONN  
BigBlueShock : 5/18/2018 8:38 pm : link
We just have different views on this, which is cool
Is there really a difference between Major League Baseball  
mattlawson : 5/18/2018 9:46 pm : link
And the cosa nostra when it comes to rats?
The real problem is how Texeira never hit over .260  
Jerry "Championship" Reese : 5/18/2018 10:31 pm : link
While making that 180 million dollar co tract, like wtf Texeira what a joke
RE: The real problem is how Texeira never hit over .260  
BigBlueShock : 5/18/2018 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13968098 Jerry "Championship" Reese said:
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While making that 180 million dollar co tract, like wtf Texeira what a joke

I think the real problem is idiot fans that have no clue about baseball that point to batting average alone as an indictment of a players worth. Like wtf what a joke.
Screw Cano.  
Giant John : 5/19/2018 1:43 pm : link
F’ing cheater.
Wtf does narc even mean in this sense  
adamg : 5/19/2018 4:20 pm : link
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RE: Wtf does narc even mean in this sense  
UConn4523 : 5/19/2018 6:24 pm : link
In comment 13968463 adamg said:
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It’s a gross exaggeration used to poke fun of BBIers. Nothing more. Thought it was obvious but I guess I’ll recant that statement.
Sanchez RBI Double!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2018 7:27 pm : link
1-0 Yankees!
Frazier walked in his first AB.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2018 7:44 pm : link
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Hicks with his 2nd inside the park HR of the year!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/19/2018 7:53 pm : link
Crazy!
Gotta love Frazier getting a BB first AB  
DennyInDenville : 5/19/2018 7:57 pm : link
That's patience and speaks volumes!

He will smack a homer next inning or AB

Can't afford to make  
section125 : 5/19/2018 8:01 pm : link
a game thread..?
RE: Can't afford to make  
BigBlueShock : 5/19/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13968585 section125 said:
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a game thread..?

We really need to. This thread is a disaster and I don’t want to sift through it anymore
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