NFL Network Reporter Jane Slater "believes" (has not been told) that Dez is holding out hope that the Giants will reach out to him to join the Gmen.
| “Right now, it’s a little bit about revenge,” said Slater. “I think he’s holding out to see if New York happens to have a need come training camp, and I have to tell you that selfishly, I’d like to see Dez in this division. Covering the Cowboys as much as I do, because I think that he’d make a matchup that’s already entertaining now that we have Saquon Barkley and Ezekiel Elliott, now adding Dez Bryant, and I think you have a very interesting division.” |
The fact is, based on everything that has been churned out, and that Beckham/Bryant have developed a strong relationship, and Bryant's public comments concerning the giants ("Giants...scary) and his desire to stay in the NFC East. I do think Bryant is salivating at the chance of playing for the Gmen.
The Giants also happen to have a need for a starter opposite Beckham. (Can you really rely on Latimer?) and the depth is atrocious.
I was personally in favor of keeping BMarshall on the minimum, but Bryant is a better player at this point in his career.
So what are the chances the giants actually give Dez a flyer. Can you see Gettleman doing this? It's kind of an odd situation. He clearly WANTS to play here. We are lukewarm. He is turning down offers elsewhere, and at this point in the off-season, who are his suitors?
I say, why the hell not?
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And let me guess... Odell and Shepard are going to be perfectly healthy all year making it perfectly acceptable to start a jabroni out there with them. Nobody will ever get hurt ever. Riiiiiight......
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On a one year prove it deal there is ZERO downside. Zero. None. Nata. Literally, the second he acts up you could cut him and lose nothing. Also, our WR situation sucks... so there's that.
It’s obvious, and strange, that we have a such a different definition of the word sucks.
So if you think our receivers suck, but Dez doesn’t, then we really have nothing to talk about.
I think Dez 5 years from now is still better than Lattimer. So yes.
Good. So if they sign him then you will know.
And let me guess... Odell and Shepard are going to be perfectly healthy all year making it perfectly acceptable to start a jabroni out there with them. Nobody will ever get hurt ever. Riiiiiight......
You are right, i have no idea what a pass catching tight end and a slot wr would have to do with our receiving core..i mean it's not like they catch the ball or anything. I Don't Know what I was thinking. Engram only caught 64 passes last year and Shepard averaged 62 receptions in the past 2 years....my bad
And you bring up health and then talk about dez...come on, do you seriously want me to go into his injury history
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What does our starting tight end and slot receiver have to do with our receiving core? We have Cody Lattimer slated to START ON OPENING DAY. There's also zero depth behind him.
And let me guess... Odell and Shepard are going to be perfectly healthy all year making it perfectly acceptable to start a jabroni out there with them. Nobody will ever get hurt ever. Riiiiiight......
You are right, i have no idea what a pass catching tight end and a slot wr would have to do with our receiving core..i mean it's not like they catch the ball or anything. I Don't Know what I was thinking. Engram only caught 64 passes last year and Shepard averaged 62 receptions in the past 2 years....my bad
And you bring up health and then talk about dez...come on, do you seriously want me to go into his injury history
Wow. So because in the game of football tight ends, running backs, and slot guys all can catch footballs you should completely ignore other starting positions? We should run with 10 guys on the field as opposed to 11??
Why would it be an either/or in regards to Odell and Shepard's injuries too? If we have horrid depth and the top guys are injury prone what does Dez's injury history have to do with anything?? You are either adding him this late in the offseason or doing nothing. So your depth either becomes Dez and somebody like Lattimer behind him or just Lattimer and crap. His injury history means nothing.
Same. We are on major thin ice at WR and CB. If we can get two solid vets this late in the offseason for peanuts Im all for it. If their attitudes are really so so toxic you cut them and lose nothing.
Signing Dez is just signing the memory of a player. It's falling into the Marshall trap again.
I'd rather try to find a player who's ready to make his mark.
Oh yeah- Dez is also a tool.
I saw last years Prime show of the Cowboys...a hard knocks t type of show.
He was a MAJOR pain when he was not getting targeting.....
I see the upside but fear the downside.
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on the field and off.
I fail to see how Dez contributes to either of those.
who has an objective to get better off the field? I sure don't. As long as these guys aren't suspended or injured I don't care one bit what they do off the field.
The same goes for NFL teams. They don't give a fuck about what they do off the field as long as they aren't getting arrested. Shit we had a fucking Kicker getting arrested for domestic violence and we swept it under the rug.
Signing Dez is just signing the memory of a player. It's falling into the Marshall trap again.
I'd rather try to find a player who's ready to make his mark.
Oh yeah- Dez is also a tool.
No the people calling for Dez want him because he'd be a huge upgrade over Roger Lewis & Cody Latimer. The guy had 1634 yards and 14 TDs over the last two years. He certainly isn't the player he once was, but he was also going against #1 CBs. He would never see a CB1 with us.
It's not like it's just Dez who had his numbers drop either. Witten's numbers fell off once Dak got there. Witten had the 2 worst years of his career since his rookie season. Terrance Williams had the 2 worst years of his career also. Hell Cole Beasley had his worse year since his rookie year. The receiving corp is going to look bad when you're QB is averaging 200 yards passing a game. Eli had nobody at WR. No OL and no run game. Yet his numbers were almost identical to Dak's numbers.
He was one of the leaders in drops last season and caught about half of his targets.
Have a field day.
Will probably act like a spoiled baby, as usual. Last thing this team needs.
Engram was a rookie and was thrust into being a focal point of our offense with all of the injuries to our WR's. Dez Bryant is an 8 year veteran with a history of injuries and bad attitude. Trying to draw any comparison between an 8 year veteran and a rookie is just beyond ridiculous.
The same goes for NFL teams. They don't give a fuck about what they do off the field as long as they aren't getting arrested. Shit we had a fucking Kicker getting arrested for domestic violence and we swept it under the rug.
We have a first year coach taking over a team that imploded last year. It was a tsunami of problems that occurred on and off the field.
So the last thing this team needs is distractions, particularly ones that can dominate headlines in a negative way. That’s Dez. He is a walking distraction. He is bitter over his release and the media continues to be obsessed with Dez signing somewhere else (he’s replaced Kaepernick for now in that regard). The guy is a ticking time bomb.
Finally, Eli doesn’t need another psycho to manage at the WR slot. Dealing with Beckham’s lunacy is taxing enough.
And if we want to do the old write down all the pluses and minuses routine on a piece of paper, we can do that quickly, too.
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-s: declining production, unreliable hands, sub par route runner, struggles with press coverage, no longer has any characteristics of a #1 or #2 receiver, disrespectful to coaches, immature, signs of being injury prone, etc.
If the answer is helps or no impact, you sign him to a reasonable deal. Let's face it, he is no where near the player he was, but is still a clearly enter player than Lattimer or anyone else at #3 on the WR depth chart. Talent wise he is a plus. But it is hard to see how he doesn't impact OBJ negatively.
Dez throws tantrums when he doesn't get the ball. In this offense he would clearly get the fewest targets of his career as the offense is OBJ, Barkley, Engram and even Sheppard. When he starts pouting and throwing tantrums on the sideline or in he meeting room, is OBJ going to be a calming influence or will he support Dez? What does that do to Engram and Sheppard who then have OBJ lobbying to get them fewer touches? Suddenly last year's lockerroom sideshow is back on.
Dez is still talented and could help the team on the field. But the more likely outcome is he actually ends up hurting the cohesion and chemistry of the team which will have on field repercussions. Because of that, I think there is no way they sign Dez regardless of what he or OBJ wants, or however reasonable his contract demands are.
It's hard to have legit discussions on topics when people post hyperbole to support their deeply held, emotional views.
Lets see if Lewis takes a step up.
If neither show much in training camp then I would look at whether Dez is willing to play close to minimum and agree to be on a short leash.
Dez brings experience and size to deal with specialized situations e.g. red zone. He also is a damn good downfield blocker when not pouting.
Would he be willing to play some ST? Hard to see.
One thing Lattimer brings is some quality ST get after it attitude.
Lattimer has more speed but not quite the size of Dez.
Lattimer would likely be more willing to sit when the Jints only go with two wrs in a two TE run offense.
So there are some pluses and minuses here.
If Dez is willing to be patient than lets see how Lattimer and Lewis fit into the new offense. If the fit is off lets re-evaluate the Dez possibility.
Let’s say Dez is signed, and is motivated to beat the Cowboys. What about the other 14 games?
It's hard to have legit discussions on topics when people post hyperbole to support their deeply held, emotional views.
For the record, I said "dealing" not "worrying". There is a difference.
My view that Beckham is an immature, pain in the ass in not "hyperbole to support a deeply held, emotional view". It's basically a fact.
1 year deal with 2nd year option. If he has lost it, we can always cut him in training camp.
But he is large and strong, TE?
Reality - NO
There absolutely IS downside to signing him. He can be much more trouble than he's worth.
We got rid of certain players this past offseason for a reason. It would make zero sense to turn around and bring Bryant in here.
Dez is very similar to Meshawn Johnson. A self involved, chaotic jerk off who sees “me” in team.
If you can’t see that in Dez than it’s fairly clear you don’t pay any attention to the rest of the NFL. And you’re just too stuck in your Giants cocoon.
I think it's both off-the-field history and on the field declining production. Being in the NFCE, the Giants have a great look at Dez. They know exactly the player he is, and it has to be clear to them that he's a shell of his former self.
Terrance Howard as Dez
Julian Beck as Jerry Jones
and Ryan Reynolds as... Ryan Reynolds