he was never an explosive WR, and played in a different era. There aren’t that many guys like Toomer in today’s game - they are either bigger and stronger or smaller and quicker/faster.
Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but I’m still sticking with Marvin Jones.
he was never an explosive WR, and played in a different era. There aren’t that many guys like Toomer in today’s game - they are either bigger and stronger or smaller and quicker/faster.
Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but I’m still sticking with Marvin Jones.
Eh, Toomer was more of a deep guy the first part of his career. He was even a return specialist in the beginning. And he is 6'3", there aren't that many quality guys that are bigger.
He didn't become a possession guy until the Eli era.
he was never an explosive WR, and played in a different era. There aren’t that many guys like Toomer in today’s game - they are either bigger and stronger or smaller and quicker/faster.
Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but I’m still sticking with Marvin Jones.
Eh, Toomer was more of a deep guy the first part of his career. He was even a return specialist in the beginning. And he is 6'3", there aren't that many quality guys that are bigger.
He didn't become a possession guy until the Eli era.
Agreed early in his career Toomer made his fair share of big plays ..he took over the possesion role when the Giants brought in Plaxico Burress
He had great measurables. He was raw and a long strider, which meant he was more fast than quick.
It wasn’t till he took on martial arts that his career took off - he credits that for helping him with hand fighting and the other subtleties of getting open in close quarters.
Little-known fact.
Tommer.
And modern-day comparison is a 20-lb lighter Deymarius Thomas Â
had such a unique career. In the early years, he was a burner who was not a very good technical receiver (or really overall receiver). In the later years, he was a very skilled possession receiver a la Chris Calloway. Not sure there's anyone like that at the moment.
Was just a football player who worked to get everything he achieved on and off the field. He was a great Giant player but he will never wear a Gold jacket which is fair and just. Now my one real bitch about him not making the HOF is then how do you explain a Lynn Swann being in HOF when stats are compared it's not even close. I love the Super Bowls but it's not the only reason a player should be inducted into the HOF.
Who is the most solid, consistent, reliable & tall non-star WR NFL? Â
Scored a TD in Tampa, took one of the first plays from scrimmage to the house (Roy Williams play) in Dallas. Made a tip toe sideline catch on the frozen field at Green Bay, and did the same thing a few weeks later against the Pats.
Really was an unsung hero of that post season.. similar to Hakeem Nicks in '11
Toomer was probably as good as anyone I've ever seen at those tip toe sideline catches. He was a master at that.
How many Giants' tiptoe sideline catches in the last coupla decades have been to Amani Toomer on the play action. Lots. Big downfield plays? Plenty. First downs? Gobs.
If you think about it, Amani has been running play action passing plays at a very high level for a very long time. Who else can we say has been better at it?
Art Monk? Maybe. Michael Irving? Anyone from outside the NFC East? I don't know. Amani has got to be way up there, if not the greatest. And I say he's the greatest receiver ever in play action passes. What think you?
it's a run. Almost like a snake charmer charming a cobra with the soft sounds of a flute whispering "runnnnn, runnnn, runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" and then.... OH SH-T, it's a pass! Abracadabra, he's gone! Tip toe catch, judo chop, boom! First down.
CB thinking "what happened?"
No amount of film study can prepare you mentally for that. Â
I say that Amani Toomer was the greatest play action receiver of all time. If the stats don't bear me out, then they are close. No-one else in the history of the game has been as good in play action than he.
RE: RE: And yes, he should absolutely be in the play action wide receiver HOF, Â
I say that Amani Toomer was the greatest play action receiver of all time. If the stats don't bear me out, then they are close. No-one else in the history of the game has been as good in play action than he.
He was doing that before they were using advanced metrics to measure it. Kinda like sacks before they were officially recorded. He doesn't get enough credit.
Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but I’m still sticking with Marvin Jones.
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More you look at Toomer’s career the better it looks. He had a lot of good seasons. Very good ypc... etc.
Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but I’m still sticking with Marvin Jones.
Eh, Toomer was more of a deep guy the first part of his career. He was even a return specialist in the beginning. And he is 6'3", there aren't that many quality guys that are bigger.
He didn't become a possession guy until the Eli era.
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he was never an explosive WR, and played in a different era. There aren’t that many guys like Toomer in today’s game - they are either bigger and stronger or smaller and quicker/faster.
Maybe Amari Cooper from a style perspective but I’m still sticking with Marvin Jones.
Eh, Toomer was more of a deep guy the first part of his career. He was even a return specialist in the beginning. And he is 6'3", there aren't that many quality guys that are bigger.
He didn't become a possession guy until the Eli era.
Agreed early in his career Toomer made his fair share of big plays ..he took over the possesion role when the Giants brought in Plaxico Burress
No watch.
No jewelz.
Nothing.
Just regular.
Regular......
He could walk into a local hobby shop and just bend over the counter and compare specs at any given moment.
Ask Hash.
Bend over the counter....
Tommer. ..
Just regular.
How can you beat that?
No watch.
No jewelz.
Nothing.
Just regular.
Regular......
He could walk into a local hobby shop and just bend over the counter and compare specs at any given moment.
Ask Hash.
Bend over the counter....
Tommer. ..
Just regular.
How can you beat that?
Greatest BBI thread of all time
It wasn’t till he took on martial arts that his career took off - he credits that for helping him with hand fighting and the other subtleties of getting open in close quarters.
Little-known fact.
Tommer.
Every year that passes since Toomer last played makes me realize more how good and reliable this guy was.
And his locker room presence was a rarity for a WR.
Really was an unsung hero of that post season.. similar to Hakeem Nicks in '11
How many Giants' tiptoe sideline catches in the last coupla decades have been to Amani Toomer on the play action. Lots. Big downfield plays? Plenty. First downs? Gobs.
If you think about it, Amani has been running play action passing plays at a very high level for a very long time. Who else can we say has been better at it?
Art Monk? Maybe. Michael Irving? Anyone from outside the NFC East? I don't know. Amani has got to be way up there, if not the greatest. And I say he's the greatest receiver ever in play action passes. What think you?
I believe he had an extensive training regimen of yoga and judo or some other sort of martial art that he credited those to.
CB thinking "what happened?"
I say that Amani Toomer was the greatest play action receiver of all time. If the stats don't bear me out, then they are close. No-one else in the history of the game has been as good in play action than he.
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he was clearly the best.
I say that Amani Toomer was the greatest play action receiver of all time. If the stats don't bear me out, then they are close. No-one else in the history of the game has been as good in play action than he.
He was doing that before they were using advanced metrics to measure it. Kinda like sacks before they were officially recorded. He doesn't get enough credit.