I've heard that pour over coffee is becoming more and more popular. I have a friend who is a cook who swears by it. I was wondering if anyone on bbi has tried it and, if you have, whether you like it. I added a link below that describes it in detail for those who might be curious.
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It does taste great though, if you have the time then go for it.
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Can’t you say that with anything and isn’t it highly subjective? 2 things I’ll pay a premium for are coffee and beer. I’ll pay $4 for a great cup of coffee or $15 for a 6 pack of something great. But, I also think paying $20+ for a bottle of wine is stupid, mostly because I don’t notice much of a difference.
The better question is why do people pay $4 for a cup of shit, which is Starbucks. They have a low quality bean that never tastes good. I’d pay more elsewhere, they are a sham from a coffee perspective.
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Has become obsessed with the purest best coffee it’s insane to a degree. We have all been trained to paying 3.50 for an 8oz cup of joe. It’s just insane that nobody thinks twice about it
Can’t you say that with anything and isn’t it highly subjective? 2 things I’ll pay a premium for are coffee and beer. I’ll pay $4 for a great cup of coffee or $15 for a 6 pack of something great. But, I also think paying $20+ for a bottle of wine is stupid, mostly because I don’t notice much of a difference.
The better question is why do people pay $4 for a cup of shit, which is Starbucks. They have a low quality bean that never tastes good. I’d pay more elsewhere, they are a sham from a coffee perspective.
That's funny - not that I disagree on Starbucks, I'm not a fan - but going on a tirade about how taste is subjective and then claiming nobody should like Starbucks because it's shit is hilarity at it's finest.
I don’t drink Starbucks often, but you’re way off base. An 8 oz. cup of coffee at Starbucks is about $1.50.
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Has become obsessed with the purest best coffee it’s insane to a degree. We have all been trained to paying 3.50 for an 8oz cup of joe. It’s just insane that nobody thinks twice about it
Can’t you say that with anything and isn’t it highly subjective? 2 things I’ll pay a premium for are coffee and beer. I’ll pay $4 for a great cup of coffee or $15 for a 6 pack of something great. But, I also think paying $20+ for a bottle of wine is stupid, mostly because I don’t notice much of a difference.
The better question is why do people pay $4 for a cup of shit, which is Starbucks. They have a low quality bean that never tastes good. I’d pay more elsewhere, they are a sham from a coffee perspective.
That's funny - not that I disagree on Starbucks, I'm not a fan - but going on a tirade about how taste is subjective and then claiming nobody should like Starbucks because it's shit is hilarity at it's finest.
That’s my entire point and why I concluded with my opinion that Starbucks sucks. Tongue in check, but also somewhat factual. Even if you like the taste it’s pretty widely known that they use shitty, low quality beans.
Along with Starbucks the D&D beans absolutely suck. It wasn’t always like that, their coffee used to be pretty good but im guessing the switched their beans which now taste like shit. It’s also very watered down now.
Thinking the same thing. You guys act as though you go to a buddies and refuse their coffee if it’s not pressed and grinded with some exact pressure. Just gulp the fucking shit down, take the energy boost, and find more important minuscule things to bitch about.
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I don't see any difference between this and any other coffee maker other than how the water is introduced. Truly a First World problem.
Thinking the same thing. You guys act as though you go to a buddies and refuse their coffee if it’s not pressed and grinded with some exact pressure. Just gulp the fucking shit down, take the energy boost, and find more important minuscule things to bitch about.
Cool. By the same token I assume you buy the cheapest steak possible, microwave it, and swallow it down. Cause, hey — it’s just energy.
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I don't see any difference between this and any other coffee maker other than how the water is introduced. Truly a First World problem.
Thinking the same thing. You guys act as though you go to a buddies and refuse their coffee if it’s not pressed and grinded with some exact pressure. Just gulp the fucking shit down, take the energy boost, and find more important minuscule things to bitch about.
Cool. By the same token I assume you buy the cheapest steak possible, microwave it, and swallow it down. Cause, hey — it’s just energy.
That’s correct. I eat to nourish my body. I do prefer the steak on the stovetop though if I have the time.
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In comment 13968984 Bill in UT said:
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I don't see any difference between this and any other coffee maker other than how the water is introduced. Truly a First World problem.
Thinking the same thing. You guys act as though you go to a buddies and refuse their coffee if it’s not pressed and grinded with some exact pressure. Just gulp the fucking shit down, take the energy boost, and find more important minuscule things to bitch about.
Cool. By the same token I assume you buy the cheapest steak possible, microwave it, and swallow it down. Cause, hey — it’s just energy.
That’s correct. I eat to nourish my body. I do prefer the steak on the stovetop though if I have the time.
Hmmm, interesting. So sometimes you invest time and energy into something that doesn’t provide any benefit to providing energy to you.
I also noticed you expended energy and time opening, reading and posting about a subject you have no interest in.
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I don't see any difference between this and any other coffee maker other than how the water is introduced. Truly a First World problem.
Thinking the same thing. You guys act as though you go to a buddies and refuse their coffee if it’s not pressed and grinded with some exact pressure. Just gulp the fucking shit down, take the energy boost, and find more important minuscule things to bitch about.
I don’t even drink it for the caffeine, I enjoy the taste. And if it tastes like shit, wel....
You also over-extract the grounds and make the coffee more bitter. If you want more intensity, try an Aeropress, French press, Moka pot or espresso machine.
Is that enough? No, while the coffee is brewing, I fill my mug with water and microwave it for ~ 90 seconds to heat the mug. Make my breakfast, walk the dog, then ready for hot coffee--traditional 8 O'Clock brand.
(Side note: in North Adams, MA, this week, a pretty run down, old mill town, lots of abandoned homes (some beautiful housing stock) near center of town, mostly working class, a city struggling to keep its head above water (Hoosic River), banking on Berkshires' tourism in large part. So, in the Mass MOCA structure (former textile converter site, then Sprague Electronics) there's an outfit called Tunnel Coffee, nice coffee bar and folks coming in for brew and muffins, etc. So, we have a cup to go, smooth and full flavored and delicious, no acid or bitter after taste whatsoever, and I'm wondering about the caffein hit. About 15 minutes later, it hit, with a punch, amazing combo.)
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I don't see any difference between this and any other coffee maker other than how the water is introduced. Truly a First World problem.
Thinking the same thing. You guys act as though you go to a buddies and refuse their coffee if it’s not pressed and grinded with some exact pressure. Just gulp the fucking shit down, take the energy boost, and find more important minuscule things to bitch about.
Cool. By the same token I assume you buy the cheapest steak possible, microwave it, and swallow it down. Cause, hey — it’s just energy.
That’s correct. I eat to nourish my body. I do prefer the steak on the stovetop though if I have the time.
Hmmm, interesting. So sometimes you invest time and energy into something that doesn’t provide any benefit to providing energy to you.
I also noticed you expended energy and time opening, reading and posting about a subject you have no interest in.
You’re argument seems to be based on me not wanting to waste energy. I never said that. And it’s also not a waste to read some of these comments about coffee. It’s very amusing to me.
Oddly, 8 O'Clock brand is as good as any I've found and also one of the cheapest. Currently using BJ's Colombian or Costa Rican.
Nothing is worse than a weak cup of coffee - brown water.
Is that really a sensibility-offending concept?
I've got a Moka but it's a little confusing to me. I prefer the French press for flavor and simplicity. No extra energy consumed, no extra waste, no big mess, and I can control exactly how much I make and the flavor is spot on every time.
Is that really a sensibility-offending concept?
I've got a Moka but it's a little confusing to me. I prefer the French press for flavor and simplicity. No extra energy consumed, no extra waste, no big mess, and I can control exactly how much I make and the flavor is spot on every time.
What about the moka pot do you find confusing?
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Think of something you have a favorite of, and then replace that thing with coffee. That's why some people spend more money and time to get what they want.
Is that really a sensibility-offending concept?
I've got a Moka but it's a little confusing to me. I prefer the French press for flavor and simplicity. No extra energy consumed, no extra waste, no big mess, and I can control exactly how much I make and the flavor is spot on every time.
What about the moka pot do you find confusing?
I'm always getting the water the wrong temp when I'm setting back on the burner. That and nearly burning myself when I put the basket of ground into the pot.
This is likely a symptom of needing coffee at that moment than it being truly difficult.
I'm always getting the water the wrong temp when I'm setting back on the burner. That and nearly burning myself when I put the basket of ground into the pot.
This is likely a symptom of needing coffee at that moment than it being truly difficult.
Assuming what you have is an actual Moka Pot (like the one pictured below), you should be filling it with cold water. That should make it easier.
I disagree. Aeropress is different animal entirely:
1) It’s pressure extraction vs. steeping.
2) it’s faster, so grind uniformity is less important.
3) it’s micro-filter, which removes the oils from the coffee. That has upsides (health) and downsides (reduced richness)
4) The Aeropress produces espresso strength coffee, which can be used for lattes etc.
drip coffee is superior to k cups (the worst), percolators (2nd worst), but not as good as espresso in any form (espresso, cappuccino, latte). shooting steam through ground coffee and letting it condense on the other side offers the best taste (imho).
if you buy a good home espresso machine, when amortized over the tens of thousands of cups it can make in its lifetime, you are basically paying just the price of the beans for great coffee. so about 25 cents per cup. the machines seem expensive but I've had mine for 15 years.
another way to get great coffee if you're a hobbyist is to roast your own beans at home, no matter how you brew the coffee it will be better with freshly roasted beans. you can do it in your toaster oven.
It's brown water and no one should ever drink it.
Get a large Americano and its 3 shots of espresso for $3 and enjoy life.
drip coffee is superior to k cups (the worst), percolators (2nd worst), but not as good as espresso in any form (espresso, cappuccino, latte). shooting steam through ground coffee and letting it condense on the other side offers the best taste (imho).
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Espresso machines don’t work that way — it’s not steam/condense. It doesn’t force steam thru the grounds. It uses pressure to force hot water at around 190 degrees thru the grounds.
drip coffee is superior to k cups (the worst), percolators (2nd worst), but not as good as espresso in any form (espresso, cappuccino, latte). shooting steam through ground coffee and letting it condense on the other side offers the best taste (imho).
if you buy a good home espresso machine, when amortized over the tens of thousands of cups it can make in its lifetime, you are basically paying just the price of the beans for great coffee. so about 25 cents per cup. the machines seem expensive but I've had mine for 15 years.
another way to get great coffee if you're a hobbyist is to roast your own beans at home, no matter how you brew the coffee it will be better with freshly roasted beans. you can do it in your toaster oven.
But it is a lot like beer. People still drink Busch Light and other stuff that is pure shit. A whole segment of beer drinkers got tired of drinking piss and the craft brew movement took over. And it would've happened a heck of a lot quicker if there weren't draconian laws in place.
Coffee is similar. Even conveniences stores/gas stations have brought in premium product instead of leaving a pot on a burner all day, producing complete shit. People may bitch that they can't get a cup for .50 anymore, but I was with my parents countless times where the diner coffee wasn't worth a nickel and my Dad would still plow through 3 cups.
I won't touch K cups (ok, i lied about being picky)
And if I grab a cup of D&D or Mcdonalds coffee, its purely because I'm in a hurry and just want my fix so I don't really care much how it tastes. Its not undrinkable. Its just not great, but it does what it needs to.
I like the French Press too, but now that my kids are coffee drinkers too, it's just easier to make the big 16 cup drip pot of Lavazza.
It would be nice to have an automatic drip that was as good but the only models that actually heat the water enough and disperse the water decently cost a couple hundred dollars and that seems wasteful when the inconvenience of the manual process doesn't bother me.
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More expensive but worth it if you’re going for a meeting at the shop. Aero press is basically French press inverted so you get those oils via pressure. Really is about the coffee to water ratio and exact temperature and timing.
I disagree. Aeropress is different animal entirely:
1) It’s pressure extraction vs. steeping.
2) it’s faster, so grind uniformity is less important.
3) it’s micro-filter, which removes the oils from the coffee. That has upsides (health) and downsides (reduced richness)
4) The Aeropress produces espresso strength coffee, which can be used for lattes etc.
you can disagree all you want - my friend owns a coffee shop directly below my office and has 10 different devices for pour overs. I've had them all with his commentary.
On a side note. Does anyone really like Starbucks coffee when drinking it black? Some of the worst coffee I ever had was from there. My wife likes to occasionally get a Starbucks and thinks it's good, but the "coffee" she gets from them is more desert than coffee.
On a side note. Does anyone really like Starbucks coffee when drinking it black? Some of the worst coffee I ever had was from there. My wife likes to occasionally get a Starbucks and thinks it's good, but the "coffee" she gets from them is more desert than coffee.
no. SB coffee is the worst. see my post above
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I seem to remember prior to automatic coffee makers becoming affordable and mainstream this was the basic concept for brewing coffee at home.
On a side note. Does anyone really like Starbucks coffee when drinking it black? Some of the worst coffee I ever had was from there. My wife likes to occasionally get a Starbucks and thinks it's good, but the "coffee" she gets from them is more desert than coffee.
no. SB coffee is the worst. see my post above
Yeah, you nailed it. I remember the first time I had one. I was expecting something extra good and instead it was possibly the worst cup of coffee I ever had. You can stop at any convenience store and get old coffee sitting there half the day and it be better than that.