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NFT: Yanks at Texas (plus some transaction news)

Beer Man : 5/21/2018 10:49 am
1. Tanaka vs. Colon. Will it be the 'Good Tanaka' or the 'Bad Tanaka'?

2. Greg Bird joins AAA-SWB today, may return to the Yanks later this week

3. Red Thunder optioned back to AAA-SWB. Evidently Hicks' awesome weekend at the plate was enough to send Clint down where he can continue to get his at bats while waiting for his shot.
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RE: anyway, fun fact  
section125 : 5/22/2018 11:44 am : link
In comment 13971167 Greg from LI said:
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Now, to match the 1998 team, the Yankees just have to go 34-7 over the next 41 games to hit the 1998 high water mark for winning percentage, .764 (65-20) :)


I would not put it past them.....Sanchez is not hitting his norm(but productive non the less); Bird isn't back; Didi is slumping; Judge is off this week; Stanton just starting to get hot..
schedule is pretty favorable for the next 40 or so  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 11:51 am : link
They do face the Angels and Astros in back to back series starting end of this week, but both at home. After that, some bad teams in the Os, Tigers, and Jays. The Mets don't scare me at all. Rays and Mariners, meh. Three game set in Philly could be interesting, we'll see if the Phillies are still playing well by then. Same thing with the Braves, who follow the Red Sox in a six game July homestand.
It's a weird market...  
Dunedin81 : 5/22/2018 11:53 am : link
Yeah we have a lot of possibilities in the minors, but it'd be nice to see someone healthy and producing, ready to step in if needed. Sheff will hopefully be back soon, Adams had a great last start but needs to be consistent.

Unfortunately, on the trade market, most of the clear sellers have terrible rotations and most of the healthy aces are already pitching for competitive teams (or are just not going to be traded). We should see some movement as teams fall out of it, but that's likely to be in ones and twos and with pitchers who rate as good but not great, and some not even particularly good. And a lot of teams will be chasing those few starting pitchers, be it Patrick Corbin (if healthy), Cole Hamels, Michael Fulmer, Chris Archer, etc etc.
Just feel like reiterating  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 11:54 am : link
how incredible Gleyber Torres has been through his first 25 games:

.321 AVG
.389 OBP
.961 OPS
6 HR
18 RBI

Aside from one bad game, he's looked like a Cano/Alomar hybrid at second base and has a Jeterian flair for the dramatic. And he's 21 years old. What an incredible trade by Cashman.
I think it's safe to say Gary is finally hot  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 11:54 am : link
.292/.427/.667 in 15 May games.
Sawx schedule has been far more favorable to this point.  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 11:56 am : link
We're gonna have seven games against the Astros under our belts before the Sawx play them at all.
Corbin might be an interesting case  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 11:59 am : link
Arizona is collapsing right now, and if they don't right the ship by the ASB they might be very open to dealing Corbin as a rental, and Corbin has made it clear how much he'd like to go to the Yankees.
RE: Corbin might be an interesting case  
Dunedin81 : 5/22/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13971194 Greg from LI said:
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Arizona is collapsing right now, and if they don't right the ship by the ASB they might be very open to dealing Corbin as a rental, and Corbin has made it clear how much he'd like to go to the Yankees.


Corbin's FB velocity is down significantly in May. He is still getting outs, but that screams injury which is unsettling for a guy with his injury history.
RE: Just feel like reiterating  
section125 : 5/22/2018 12:06 pm : link
In comment 13971184 bceagle05 said:
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how incredible Gleyber Torres has been through his first 25 games:

.321 AVG
.389 OBP
.961 OPS
6 HR
18 RBI

Aside from one bad game, he's looked like a Cano/Alomar hybrid at second base and has a Jeterian flair for the dramatic. And he's 21 years old. What an incredible trade by Cashman.


Pros have off days - happens. He sometimes appears to be nonchalant with his fielding (like Robbie), but that is probably because he is soooooo smooth.
I still cannot see where the power comes from. But Mattingly was only 5"11 185 and he could mash.
hmmm...didn't know that  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 12:06 pm : link
Looking at PitchFX, you're right, he's dropped about three ticks off his fastball. Definitely not a good sign.
Mookie Betts is tied for the league lead in homers at the moment  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 12:07 pm : link
and he's 5'9" 180
Corbin intriguing, but he isn't a no brainer.  
Victor in CT : 5/22/2018 12:12 pm : link
it's the first time in 3 years he has a sub-4.00 ERA. Like most of the available pitchers, he has his +s and -s. I wouldn't give up too much for him either. I would deal for him before Hamels though. He's 28 not 34, won't bust this years payroll ceiling and if he didn't produce they could let him walk for nothing.
the hook with Corbin is that he's a FA after the season  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 12:14 pm : link
So as a pure rental, the price shouldn't be as steep, but there could be some heavy competition.

IF he's healthy.
Gary is finally taking some  
Phil in LA : 5/22/2018 12:15 pm : link
walks,
RE: Mookie Betts is tied for the league lead in homers at the moment  
Dunedin81 : 5/22/2018 12:17 pm : link
In comment 13971213 Greg from LI said:
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and he's 5'9" 180


I dislike Betts for obvious reasons, but he has had a phenomenal year. His 2017 form was a very valuable ballplayer but I thought (quite reasonably) he was topped out.
yeah, have to tip your hat to Betts  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 12:18 pm : link
He's a much better hitter than I thought he was.
RE: Corbin might be an interesting case  
adamg : 5/22/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 13971194 Greg from LI said:
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Arizona is collapsing right now, and if they don't right the ship by the ASB they might be very open to dealing Corbin as a rental, and Corbin has made it clear how much he'd like to go to the Yankees.


He's a great target.
Bumgarner would cost an arm and a leg,  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/22/2018 3:01 pm : link
but man would it be something to add him to our rotation.
I don't think SF would trade Bumgarner under any circumstances  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 3:03 pm : link
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The guy I keep an eye on , and I don't know his contract  
DennyInDenville : 5/22/2018 3:03 pm : link
Is Max Scherzer.

If the Nats keep sucking.. maybe we can give them a nice haul of young guys (no Torres) and help each other out...

That's what we need to do if we target a SP. not another sonny Gray type

It's another Ace or might as well take our chances with what we have
RE: The guy I keep an eye on , and I don't know his contract  
adamg : 5/22/2018 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13971488 DennyInDenville said:
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Is Max Scherzer.

If the Nats keep sucking.. maybe we can give them a nice haul of young guys (no Torres) and help each other out...

That's what we need to do if we target a SP. not another sonny Gray type

It's another Ace or might as well take our chances with what we have


Scherzer is an ace and the arguably the best pitcher in baseball. No way the Nats trade him
lulz  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 3:05 pm : link
A team that's in playoff contention and is probably losing their superstar oufielder after the season is going to wave the white flag and trade their ace? Sharp analysis there.
Yeah, the Nats are the best team in the NL East by miles.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/22/2018 3:07 pm : link
And are very much going to be a playoff contender and most likely win that division. They aren't trading their ace.
I didn't notice they were 4 games over .500  
DennyInDenville : 5/22/2018 3:08 pm : link
If they somehow get to 10 under .500 they might shop him

He's the guy we need though.

I agree Bumgarner isn't going anywhere , neither will Kershaw
How confident are you on  
UConn4523 : 5/22/2018 3:09 pm : link
Torres being untouchable? If he isn’t, under what circumstances would he be moved?

I’m pretty damn close to him being untouchable. As great as it would be to win a championship this year, he’s a long term piece at a fairly premium position. My guess is he’s completely off the table.
The only way Bumgarner gets traded is if the Giants  
Heisenberg : 5/22/2018 3:11 pm : link
decide to blow it up. Right now they're .500 with an old team.

I'd guess that next year they do blow it up and Bumgarner will be in his walk year and is far more likely to be traded then.

But if he's healthy, he's exactly what the Yanks need. A guy you can feel good about handing the ball in an elimination game.
Gleyber's not going anywhere ever.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/22/2018 3:11 pm : link
He's already on the verge of becoming a superstar at 21 years old.
Would have to think Torres  
section125 : 5/22/2018 3:15 pm : link
is untouchable, yes.

The untouchables in order: (IMO)
Severino
Judge
Torres

not yet:
Andujar
Bird
RE: How confident are you on  
Victor in CT : 5/22/2018 3:15 pm : link
In comment 13971501 UConn4523 said:
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Torres being untouchable? If he isn’t, under what circumstances would he be moved?

I’m pretty damn close to him being untouchable. As great as it would be to win a championship this year, he’s a long term piece at a fairly premium position. My guess is he’s completely off the table.


Torres isn't going anywhere. Unless George Stenbrenner rises from the dead, trades like that aren't happening anymore.
if they were willing to move Torres  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 3:17 pm : link
He would have been gone already. Almost every potential trade they pursued in the past year had teams asking for him. You can pencil his name in the lineup card for the next decade-plus.
RE: Would have to think Torres  
Victor in CT : 5/22/2018 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13971509 section125 said:
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is untouchable, yes.

The untouchables in order: (IMO)
Severino
Judge
Torres

not yet:
Andujar
Bird


Bird is probably more untradeable than untouchable for the moment. He has to prove he can stay on the field.
RE: if they were willing to move Torres  
Victor in CT : 5/22/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 13971512 Greg from LI said:
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He would have been gone already. Almost every potential trade they pursued in the past year had teams asking for him. You can pencil his name in the lineup card for the next decade-plus.


Andujar too. I still think Frazier is the guy they are most willing to part with.
Sanchez is of course also untouchable...  
Dunedin81 : 5/22/2018 3:22 pm : link
Andujar is probably a tier below. They like him and I'm sure they'd like to keep him, but if he was a sure thing they wouldn't have gone after Drury and his years of team control, intending him to be a 3B as well.
RE: Sanchez is of course also untouchable...  
section125 : 5/22/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13971522 Dunedin81 said:
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Andujar is probably a tier below. They like him and I'm sure they'd like to keep him, but if he was a sure thing they wouldn't have gone after Drury and his years of team control, intending him to be a 3B as well.


ooops forgot the great Sanchizmo
Agree with everyone here on the untouchables  
DennyInDenville : 5/22/2018 3:24 pm : link
With Sanchez.

Also if Andujar and Frazier are both traded , we all know the 2 FAs we could sign to fill their spots long term.
RE: Would have to think Torres  
Dan in the Springs : 5/22/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13971509 section125 said:
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is untouchable, yes.

The untouchables in order: (IMO)
Severino
Judge
Torres

not yet:
Andujar
Bird


Not sure where you'd put Sanchez on that list, but imo he should be right up there with Sevy, Judge and Torres.
Frazier's definitely vulnerable  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 3:49 pm : link
but it brings us back to the conversation about available starting pitching. He's too talented to trade for just a decent starter like Archer or Hamels, but he may not be good enough to headline a deal for Fullmer or Bumgarner. I think that's what saved him thus far - either the Yankees were unwilling to deal him for Cole, or the Pirates were unwilling to take him for Cole.
RE: Frazier's definitely vulnerable  
Victor in CT : 5/22/2018 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13971566 bceagle05 said:
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but it brings us back to the conversation about available starting pitching. He's too talented to trade for just a decent starter like Archer or Hamels, but he may not be good enough to headline a deal for Fullmer or Bumgarner. I think that's what saved him thus far - either the Yankees were unwilling to deal him for Cole, or the Pirates were unwilling to take him for Cole.


Pirates wanted Andujar too. Cashman said no.

The other thing is that at some point they will be forced to move some guys because of the Rule 5 thing. I'm not up on the details, but I know you can't stash guys forever anymore.
it was the latter  
Greg from LI : 5/22/2018 3:52 pm : link
The Yankees offered a package built around Frazier and Chance Adams, the Pirates asked for Torres, and that was pretty much that.
I'm not so sure about Frazier...  
Dunedin81 : 5/22/2018 3:53 pm : link
long-term he's an obvious trade candidate, but they're an injury away from him getting starter reps at the big league level. He's a much better defensive OF than Austin or Stanton, so were any of the starting three to miss time Frazier is the obvious choice to step in.
RE: How confident are you on  
giants#1 : 5/22/2018 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13971501 UConn4523 said:
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Torres being untouchable? If he isn’t, under what circumstances would he be moved?

I’m pretty damn close to him being untouchable. As great as it would be to win a championship this year, he’s a long term piece at a fairly premium position. My guess is he’s completely off the table.


Torres was virtually untouchable last year even after his injury. Zero chance he's getting dealt after what he's done since joining the big club.
I can definitely see a scenario going forward (2019 and beyond)  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 3:56 pm : link
where Stanton and Frazier split the LF/DH duties, with Hicks and Judge in CF and RF. A lot of it comes down to Gardy - will they pick up his option? Do they decline it and re-sign him at a lower number if he has a decent season? I wouldn't think so, but the Yankees love him.
RE: I can definitely see a scenario going forward (2019 and beyond)  
bigbluehoya : 5/22/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13971583 bceagle05 said:
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where Stanton and Frazier split the LF/DH duties, with Hicks and Judge in CF and RF. A lot of it comes down to Gardy - will they pick up his option? Do they decline it and re-sign him at a lower number if he has a decent season? I wouldn't think so, but the Yankees love him.


Where are you seeing that the yanks hold an option on Gardner? I could be wrong but believe the contract is up at season’s end and he’s UFA.
Club option for next year...  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 4:05 pm : link
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2015: $12 million
2016: $12 million
2017: $12 million
2018: $11 million
2019: $12.5 million club option with a $2 million buyout

Link - ( New Window )
Thanks, bceagle  
bigbluehoya : 5/22/2018 4:09 pm : link
Spotrac is missing the option. Baseball reference agrees to you. $2m buyout on the option.

I can’t see them picking up the option.
Yeah I looked at Spotrac first and thought I was wrong.  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 4:14 pm : link
Seems logical that if Frazier survives the year, he'd replace Gardner on the roster, but we'll see.

Next year's lineup could potentially be:

Torres
Judge
Bird
Stanton
Sanchez
Didi
Frazier
Hicks
Andujar/Drury
It depends on how Gardner finishes the year...  
Dunedin81 : 5/22/2018 4:22 pm : link
that $ is not necessarily excessive for a 450-500 PA outfielder who OPSes mid-.700s and plays good defense, and even with his minuscule BA and slugging he's still getting on base at a 35% clip. It's a young team and they've long viewed him as a "glue" guy.
RE: I'm not so sure about Frazier...  
Beer Man : 5/22/2018 4:34 pm : link
In comment 13971577 Dunedin81 said:
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long-term he's an obvious trade candidate, but they're an injury away from him getting starter reps at the big league level. He's a much better defensive OF than Austin or Stanton, so were any of the starting three to miss time Frazier is the obvious choice to step in.
Not only that, but Gardy may be in his last year as a Yank, and Red Thunder should be the next guy up.
At this point I’d trade Andujar before Frazier but ideally  
Jim in Hoboken : 5/22/2018 4:35 pm : link
would want both to stay and be part of the future. I know Gardner has shown signs of life lately, but half a season of leadership and grit is no reason to get rid of Frazier. I mean, the man swings the bat like it’s a toothpick.
JA Happ is a pitcher the Yanks should look at.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/22/2018 6:29 pm : link
Wouldn't cost a ton (if there's no Yankee tax) to trade for and he's a FA after the season. He's put up great numbers against BOS since he went to the Jays.
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