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Eli Apple 'embarrassed' by 2017, welcomes 2018 clean-slate

gidiefor : Mod : 5/21/2018 2:02 pm
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Apple addressed the media for the first time. Here are his comments, and takeaways from Monday's press conference:

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I am pleasantly surprised by Apple so far  
Jay on the Island : 5/21/2018 2:07 pm : link
He has really taken advantage of his second chance and I applaud him for that. I hope that he keeps it up because the Giants really need him this season.
New Year  
Giantslifer : 5/21/2018 2:09 pm : link
Give Apple a break (but just ONE).
it is up to him to prove he is an adult
Hopefully, he gets it and plays the way he can.
Or, next year, new crop of DB's in draft
So far so good. He has to prove what he's been saying  
Ira : 5/21/2018 2:12 pm : link
when it's time to play games that count.
Minor nit pick  
Giantology : 5/21/2018 2:15 pm : link
But sort of a weird article format. Would've preferred to just see Apple's comments/answers and the questions instead of the reporter trying to play psychoanalyst with each answer.
I was at the Arizona game last December.  
MOOPS : 5/21/2018 2:17 pm : link
You could have cut the tension between him and the rest of the team with a knife.
He would not go near the rest of the team, literally positioned himself 10 to 15 yards from his teammates. IIRC one player, and I don't recall who, exchanged a couple of words with him the entire game.

I hope he got his head straightened out because he has a ton of talent. It would be ashame to waste what might have been a good career.

Take note  
JonC : 5/21/2018 2:17 pm : link
of the positive articles today regarding Apple and Flowers, and the effort being put in on both sides.

Hopefully, the cleaned culture will help both young men grow up quickly.
Like what I'm hearing so far.  
TC : 5/21/2018 2:23 pm : link
Of course, words are far from actions. But the feel of the team is different. No bloviating, no bravado, just get it done.
Whats missing here  
larryinnewhaven : 5/21/2018 2:25 pm : link
to go along with all the maturity issues is he is not very good. You try to work through the problems if the player is a stud. Its not worth the headaches for an average at best player. God Awful pick by Reese.
Not true  
JonC : 5/21/2018 2:28 pm : link
He was plenty good in 2016, struggled in 2017.

He's got the tools.
Yeah I disagree Larry  
beatrixkiddo : 5/21/2018 2:35 pm : link
Apple flashed plenty that he has the tools to become a very solid player. Last year he was awful, and I really like what I am hearing from the kid as he is owning up to his mistakes, that is called maturity, something we ridiculed him for lacking last year.

I'm rooting for the player, we will definitely need him or QB's will be having career games against our secondary on a weekly basis.
Nice to hear, but I still don't trust him  
Anakim : 5/21/2018 2:36 pm : link
Time will tell. Hopefully he distanced himself from that mother of his.
Great start by Apple  
RAIN : 5/21/2018 2:39 pm : link
he has the tools to be exceptional. I'll take good, but his culpability is great start.

He had a lot of personal bullshit to deal with and didn't have the support system to deal with it. It happens, but I'm hopeful in that he's owning some of it.
RE: Whats missing here  
Knee of Theismann : 5/21/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13970203 larryinnewhaven said:
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to go along with all the maturity issues is he is not very good. You try to work through the problems if the player is a stud. Its not worth the headaches for an average at best player. God Awful pick by Reese.


I disagree. He was good in 2016 and not as good in 2017, but the entire team was shitty in 2017.

He was a #10 overall pick and is just entering his 3rd year. He came in the draft as a red shirt sophomore and therefore was rough around the edges, but everyone had him going as a top 15 pick based on upside. He is 22 years old and has plenty of maturing to do both on and off the field, but if the new leadership can get him on the right track he can be a very good starter for us.

Way too early to jump to the conclusions you allude to in your post.

RE: Whats missing here  
UConn4523 : 5/21/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13970203 larryinnewhaven said:
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to go along with all the maturity issues is he is not very good. You try to work through the problems if the player is a stud. Its not worth the headaches for an average at best player. God Awful pick by Reese.


Really not accurate at all. He had a good rookie season. If you want to get rid of him for last year, well, I’m glad you aren’t in charge.
This is very good news  
UberAlias : 5/21/2018 4:18 pm : link
The team is counting on him to play a big role on the D this year.
Nice to hear ...  
short lease : 5/21/2018 4:27 pm : link
Let's see if he is sincere.
The Giants  
mittenedman : 5/21/2018 5:02 pm : link
put their eggs in his basket and got rid of what they determined a problem in DRC. He has to be confident knowing the Giants didn't pick anyone up. Apple will be the starter and they need him.

He's a "swing player" for the D. His performance will have a big impact on the bottom line.
The giants are giving him second chance,  
TMS : 5/21/2018 6:17 pm : link
Why can't some fans do the same ?
RE: The giants are giving him second chance,  
short lease : 5/21/2018 6:23 pm : link
In comment 13970449 TMS said:
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Why can't some fans do the same ?


I think they will ... but, to a certain extent - he is going to have to earn their trust and respect back.
RE: The giants are giving him second chance,  
Jimmy Googs : 5/21/2018 6:29 pm : link
In comment 13970449 TMS said:
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Why can't some fans do the same ?


I think you mean why can't ALL fans do the same.

And the answer is because fans don't have to...
Like some us of said,  
prdave73 : 5/21/2018 7:25 pm : link
With huge changes like new coaches, he might just turn the corner.
Glad Apple is at least showing his head is back in the right place  
Jimmy Googs : 5/21/2018 7:43 pm : link
but I think many of you may need to temper your expectations on his performance for this year.

First, he did not play GOOD in 2016...he played at average and had ups/downs as most rookies do but at least could be counted on to hold up on the outside. That is not the same as GOOD.

He played downright BAD in 2017, and a lot of it early when the season was still not yet in the shitter for him personally and the team as a whole.

Development in the NFL is not linear, and I believe that is especially true at Cornerback. Apple still has plenty to learn out there regarding playing the ball in the air, cutting down on penalties and playing with proper leverage against bigger WRs/TEs.

We absolutely need him to step up due to our talent-shortage at CB, so I hope he does his best to improve his game as a professional along with keeping up this new attitude.
He played well enough to have DRC moved from a position where  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/21/2018 7:53 pm : link
he excelled for years. The 2016 Giants felt their best lineup was having Apple on the field. It counts for something. The reason why it was surprising or upsetting that he played so poorly in 2017 is precisely because of how well he held up as a rookie, playing a key role on a very good defense that had expectations. The logical thing was to expect him to be even better in year two.
Yes it is logical for him to be better in Yr 2 but like I mentioned  
Jimmy Googs : 5/21/2018 8:00 pm : link
expect more variation game to game than just continued improvement as his skill-set needs plenty of maturity.

And btw, the plan early was to have DRC move to slot because Apple and Jenkins do not fit that bill at all. And I also think there was some potential front office involvement in that decision as well as DRC's footing on the team was a bit tenuous.

just sayin'...
I was a big fan of Apple at OSU..  
bw in dc : 5/21/2018 8:33 pm : link
There is some real talent there.

He's 6'2", 200, runs a 4.40 and has long arms. If he can just get his head screwed on straight - which is a major ask; and have his mom move to overseas - there is still major upside there.
Apple and Flowers  
GoBlue6599 : 5/21/2018 9:26 pm : link
2 guys taken in the top 10 and neither IMO have shown the skill level you'd expect from that high of a draft pick
Go get ‘em Eli!  
trueblueinpw : 5/21/2018 11:11 pm : link
The real cancer on this team last year was McAdoo. I hope Eli Apple has a terrific year and really turns everything around. Let’s not kid ourselves, he’s got a long way to go before the Giants on the field are going to really trust him. But the opportunity is there and I hope Eli makes the most of his second chance. I sure hope having a real NFL coaching staff helps this young man become a great Giant.
He should be embarrassed  
PatersonPlank : 5/22/2018 1:13 am : link
He gets no brownie points from me admitting this. Change, and show something different, then we'll see.
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