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NFT: Jason Vargas: GET IT TOGETHER MAN!

PatchoguePete : 5/21/2018 2:31 pm
Tonight, the Mets look to continue their winning ways. 3 wins in a row. 2 games out of first in the loss column. 1 game out of the WC. Unfortunately Jason Vargas is pitching tonight, so it'll probably be 12-0 Marlins after 2 innings.
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Is this the game thread?  
ZGiants98 : 5/21/2018 2:51 pm : link
Yeesh
send him down,  
cjd2404 : 5/21/2018 3:09 pm : link
trade him, have him mow the lawn...something, anything other than let him pitch
Jason Vargas has pitched in 3 games/12 innings total this year  
ZGiants98 : 5/21/2018 3:17 pm : link
My God. 5th starters get bombed. Colon had stretches that were comically bad. Can we give this guy a few weeks? Holy smokes.

And no.... I don’t think Vargas is ever going to be a great pitcher... but he might round into the 5th starter we expected him to be.
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 3:25 pm : link
It's more than just 3 games. He was abysmal the entire 2nd half of last year. He had an ERA well over 6.

Vargas is a 35 year old junkballer who looks like Jon Lovitz and is pitching so poorly that he's not even allowing the team to compete when he's on the mound.

He might get it together and be "passable" but his stuff is terrible and I'm not holding my breath.
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 3:26 pm : link
Bottom line - if he sucks again tonight, they have to pull the plug. Can't have an auto loss in the rotation every 5 days like this where the pitcher isn't even giving the team a chance. On top of that, he's completely wiping out the pen every time he goes put there because he's averaging 4 innings a start.
Thank you Z  
Shecky : 5/21/2018 3:27 pm : link
For your recent infusion of optimism around here. Welcome breath of fresh air.
RE: Thank you Z  
ZGiants98 : 5/21/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13970269 Shecky said:
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For your recent infusion of optimism around here. Welcome breath of fresh air.


No problem.
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 3:32 pm : link
It's funny, it has been almost a carbon copy of the trash he provided just over 10 years ago.

2007:

10.1 IP, 12.19 ERA, 8.08 FIP, 14.8 H/9

2018:

12.1 IP, 13.86 ERA, 8.89 FIP, 19.0 H/9

RE: Thank you Z  
PhiPsi125 : 5/21/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13970269 Shecky said:
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For your recent infusion of optimism around here. Welcome breath of fresh air.


Yeah, it's been a real blast today.
You know 10-12 IP is a comically  
ZGiants98 : 5/21/2018 3:37 pm : link
Small sample for a SP right? Can we see where he’s at at 50 IP before making whole sale changes on a guy we just signed to a two year deal.

I know he’s a junkballer and he’s definitely not anything exciting but he was also an all star last year. Guys like Cobb and Lynn are off to horrific starts while getting paid three times the coin. Vargas also didn’t really have a ST due to his injury.

Man, let’s just take a deep breath.
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 3:42 pm : link
Sure, it took him 3 starts to get to 12 innings, so simple math tells me he'll need roughly 12 starts to hit 50 innings.

I'm sure we can afford to throw away another 5-6 games with him on the mound. He's been terrible since July of last year. It's not a small sample size. It's like 90 innings of pure garbage.

Vargas sucks.
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 3:44 pm : link
He's started roughly 20 games since last July and has gotten through 6 allowing 3 runs or less just 4 times.

What else do we need to see here? He's 35 years old. He's not learning or improving or ascending.

Mind-bogging that this guy got 2 years.
It’s a long season and we aren’t depending on him  
ZGiants98 : 5/21/2018 4:03 pm : link
For anything... even if he does round into a 5th starter, he’s not starting playoff games or anything if we get there. And if he doesn’t? We can move a Gsellman or Lugo to the rotation. Heck I bet even a Oswalt could be a decent 5th starter. I’m hoping for more stability from Matz and Wheeler going forward and continued dominance from Thor/DeGrom. We’ll be ok.
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PhiPsi125 : 5/21/2018 4:14 pm : link
The Mets  
allstarjim : 5/21/2018 6:12 pm : link
Will be playing 12 games in the next 11 days. We need the starters to deliver in this stretch.

Anyone know off the top of their head when Cespedes can come off the DL? Is it this Thursday?
Broken down car report: Mets interested in Bautista  
Defenderdawg : 5/21/2018 6:38 pm : link
Mike Puma (@NYPost_Mets)
5/21/18, 5:27 PM
The Mets are showing interest in Jose Bautista, who was released by the Braves on Sunday.

Mike Puma (@NYPost_Mets)
5/21/18, 4:08 PM
Mickey Callaway updates Frazier status to say he is taking BP on the field today, but is yet to test his leg running.
Cespedes went on the 10 Day  
NewBlue : 5/21/2018 6:40 pm : link
Retroactive to May 14, so Thursday it would be but...................We all know he won't come back on time, further, he is an accident waiting to happen.

Plawicki was supposed to be 4-6 weeks....hello...Kevin?

Swarzak.....send an ABP

Frazier.....He does not sound confident of an imminent return

Not to mention Largares

It's like the Giants with this team, another day another player gets hurt, and usually it's not the garden variety injury
Who cares about his pitching... have you seen Mrs Vargas???  
EricJ : 5/21/2018 7:00 pm : link
Time for Vargas to start his march  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:03 pm : link
to 15 wins!!!!!

Let's go streaking!!!!!
Vargas with the perfecto intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:13 pm : link
through 1/3!
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 7:14 pm : link
Holy shit he got the leadoff man out!
Still intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:15 pm : link
through 2/3!
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 7:17 pm : link
A 1-2-3 inning!!!!
I’m callin’ it.  
Beezer : 5/21/2018 7:17 pm : link

Jason Vargas is throwing a no-hitter tonight.

Who’s with me!!!

Let’s go!!!!!
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 7:18 pm : link
Should yank him now so he can go out on a high note.

The 'ol George Costanza.
Missed in a couple times to Castro  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:18 pm : link
but I like the idea.

Perfecto intact through 1!

Pitch count a little high tho. He's on pace for 153 -- interesting to see if Callaway lets him try and secure his spot amongst the immortals!
RE: I’m callin’ it.  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:18 pm : link
In comment 13970513 Beezer said:
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Jason Vargas is throwing a no-hitter tonight.

Who’s with me!!!

Let’s go!!!!!


Not me. I'm banking on the perfect game.
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Beezer : 5/21/2018 7:20 pm : link
In comment 13970514 arcarsenal said:
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Should yank him now so he can go out on a high note.

The 'ol George Costanza.


I’m out!!!
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13970519 Beezer said:
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In comment 13970514 arcarsenal said:


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Should yank him now so he can go out on a high note.

The 'ol George Costanza.



I’m out!!!


Welp, that's it for me!!!
Bruce starting to come around  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:23 pm : link
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Keith  
Beezer : 5/21/2018 7:23 pm : link
talking about merging lanes from the LIE onto the Cross Island Parkway. And how he nearly hit a guardrail, if not for his great reflexes. lol Classic.
Perfecto intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:29 pm : link
through 1.1!
I’m telling you.  
Beezer : 5/21/2018 7:30 pm : link
El perfecto!
Perfecto intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:31 pm : link
through 1.2!
For the love of the game.  
Beezer : 5/21/2018 7:32 pm : link
You feel it???
Perfecto intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:32 pm : link
through 2!

MLB needs to start rolling out the alerts!
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 7:32 pm : link
6 up

6 down.

Lovitz is fucking ON POINT tonight.
RE: For the love of the game.  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13970539 Beezer said:
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You feel it???


Jason Vargas trying to push that sun back up in the sky?

Love that movie. LOVE it!
Perfecto intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:42 pm : link
through 2.1!
Perfecto intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:43 pm : link
through 2.2!
Kevin Fucking Costner out there!!!  
Beezer : 5/21/2018 7:44 pm : link
Let’s go!!!
Nice pitching Jason!  
ZGiants98 : 5/21/2018 7:44 pm : link
But it's only the Marlins... so it doesnt count of course.
Perfecto intact  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:44 pm : link
through 3!

Locating three pitches really well tonight as he sets sail after immortality!
Engage ...  
Beezer : 5/21/2018 7:45 pm : link
the mechanism.
Vargas needs to go deep now  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:45 pm : link
get the pressure of the offense.
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arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 7:46 pm : link
Lovitz is cruisin!
RE: Engage ...  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13970555 Beezer said:
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the mechanism.


Ain't it "Clear the mechanism?"

Where is Kelly Preston?????
RE: Nice pitching Jason!  
arcarsenal : 5/21/2018 7:47 pm : link
In comment 13970553 ZGiants98 said:
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But it's only the Marlins... so it doesnt count of course.


LOL, well they do have the worst lineup in the NL. Can't really argue that they suck.

But regardless of who we play, Vargas needs this so hopefully he keeps going.
Well at least we can be grateful  
ZGiants98 : 5/21/2018 7:49 pm : link
Vargas isnt going against the first place Diamondbacks... because their struggling. So that reeeeeeally would not count. ;)
Nice AB  
jpkmets : 5/21/2018 7:50 pm : link
by Rosario. Love it when he can stay back and then be quick.
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