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NFT: Mets signing Joey Bats

ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 5:25 pm
Meh... don’t really get this one.
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I think I called this one back in January lol  
Shecky : 5/22/2018 5:33 pm : link
Took a little longer than expected. But a no risk signing.
A-gone was a no-risk  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2018 5:37 pm : link
signing too.

is he going to play OF for the Mets?

I don't want him on 3B.
Who is Joey Bats  
Samiam : 5/22/2018 5:37 pm : link
???
Backup  
spike : 5/22/2018 5:37 pm : link
OF
jose  
sshin05 : 5/22/2018 5:38 pm : link
bautista's nickname
Good  
Rflairr : 5/22/2018 5:38 pm : link
They need a RIghty bat for the OF
he's done  
sshin05 : 5/22/2018 5:40 pm : link
but i guess they are trying to catch a lightning in a bottle.
Strange move unless it’s a minor league deal  
Jay on the Island : 5/22/2018 5:44 pm : link
He’s done.
RE: Strange move unless it’s a minor league deal  
Ira : 5/22/2018 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13971734 Jay on the Island said:
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He’s done.


It probably is.
One of the most unlikeable figures..  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/22/2018 6:02 pm : link
in all of sport.
RE: RE: Strange move unless it’s a minor league deal  
Rflairr : 5/22/2018 6:03 pm : link
In comment 13971737 Ira said:
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In comment 13971734 Jay on the Island said:


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He’s done.



It probably is.


He’s active tonight.

And it’s not a strange move. With Lagares hurt, they need a rh hitter that can play the OF
Major League deal  
Vanzetti : 5/22/2018 6:03 pm : link
One year

Eligible to play tonight
it's a lotto ticket  
Eric on Li : 5/22/2018 6:05 pm : link
who knows how it will work out. The odds say he's washed up, same as AGon.
Mets  
TyreeHelmet : 5/22/2018 6:22 pm : link
Sure love shopping at the clearance rack...
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 7:36 pm : link
Very Mets.

And Wheeler off to another crappy start at home.
Please release Reyes  
Rflairr : 5/22/2018 7:38 pm : link
.
Hopefully Reyes  
KWhite2250 : 5/22/2018 7:38 pm : link
Last game. Guillerome is better
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 7:40 pm : link
Reyes can't hit, he can't field.. it's over.
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 7:52 pm : link
Ayyyyy he hit a double. LOL
RE: Major League deal  
spike : 5/22/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 13971750 Vanzetti said:
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One year

Eligible to play tonight


Stupid to give him a guaranteed major league deal
All the talk re Bautista imagine him still being on the roster in 2020  
Eric on Li : 5/22/2018 7:55 pm : link
and that's how mindboggling it is that Reyes is still here. No risk veteran's minimum 2 years ago? Sure. Cheap option year? Why not. But how bad does he have to look before he's gone? What value is playing a lot of positions if he sucks at all of them?
Reyes was a 2 fWAR player last year..  
ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 8:10 pm : link
for peanuts. Hardly value-less. The one thing we learned last year though was that Reyes should NEVER play 3B so I dont know why they are doing it. The guy never played there in his life... the experiment last year failed.. so why are we forcing the issue? Play Guillorme at 3B or shift Cabrera there.
So Reyes error fueled inning aside  
ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 8:17 pm : link
Wheeler looks awesome tonight...
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 8:31 pm : link
Reyes is so bad.
Good job Reyes  
Rflairr : 5/22/2018 8:32 pm : link
lol
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 8:38 pm : link
Hey... he got a hit!
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 8:38 pm : link
And Nido immediately wipes it out. LOL
RE: So Reyes error fueled inning aside  
Metnut : 5/22/2018 9:08 pm : link
In comment 13971892 ZGiants98 said:
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Wheeler looks awesome tonight...


How do his stats look this season when he’s not facing the Marlins?
Real nice job  
Stufftherun : 5/22/2018 9:12 pm : link
by Gsellman bearing down there.
This Marlins pitcher Smith  
Metnut : 5/22/2018 9:18 pm : link
is legit. Has great stuff. Mets are still in this with two innings to get st this awful Marlins bullpen.
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 9:27 pm : link
Wheeler did look good - but again, his 3 good starts this year have been against the two absolute worst lineups in the NL (MIA, CIN)

He's pitched poorly against most other teams. So, while this is good to see - much like it was the first time - I need to see him shut down some better lineups. He's still having a lot of the same issues he always has.
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 9:32 pm : link
The bigger problem - again - is the lineup.

It seems like no matter what we do, we can't escape the stench of a struggling lineup.

The production we're getting out of our cleanup spot is horrifying. We have ONE HOME RUN out of that spot this year and it's almost June. One. That's horrendous. We have the lowest SLG% in all of baseball out of that lineup spot too.

Maybe it means less because of the different ways teams are constructing lineups now, but I'm still tired of watching us struggle offensively so much.

Only 3 teams have scored fewer runs - including this Marlins team. We were basically bottom-third last year. 26th of 30 in runs scored in 2016.

As much as we picked it up in 2015, we were still below average at years' end in terms of run production.

You have to go back to 2011 for the last time the Mets were above league average in runs scored.
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 9:33 pm : link
And AJ Ramos still sucks.
Ramos  
Rflairr : 5/22/2018 9:33 pm : link
Pitched over an inning last night. Why go to him tonight?
Reyes sucked first half last year, terrible defensively all year  
Eric on Li : 5/22/2018 9:34 pm : link
he got hot in September when the season was basically over. I get it that he might be a good mentor for Rosario, but he's basically done. Don't know why he's getting any ABs over Guillorme.
RE: Ramos  
arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 13972003 Rflairr said:
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Pitched over an inning last night. Why go to him tonight?


Because Terry Collins is a buffoon.
Callaway is mediocre  
moespree : 5/22/2018 9:40 pm : link
At what point does it stop being early to form an opinion on him? Because I don't see any upgrade in manager with him.
RE: Callaway is mediocre  
Eric on Li : 5/22/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 13972013 moespree said:
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At what point does it stop being early to form an opinion on him? Because I don't see any upgrade in manager with him.


He's not exactly driving a ferrari.
still cant score  
spike : 5/22/2018 9:46 pm : link
the main problem with this club is hitting
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 9:50 pm : link
I was hoping Mickey could "fix" one of these three guys...

Matt Harvey
Steve Matz
Zack Wheeler

When he was hired, I said it's a great hire if he can turn one of these three guys into either what they were before, or what we've all expected them to be. It would almost be worth it from that standpoint alone.

Harvey is gone. Matz is up and down, and Wheeler keeps showing signs, but still isn't quite getting there

So, I wouldn't say he's failed yet as far as that goes - but the odds are smaller now by default and I'm not terribly convinced we'll ever get more out of either of the two who are left here. This just might be what they are.

I'm also not crazy about Dave Eiland, but it's early.
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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 9:52 pm : link
If you throw a lefty at this lineup, we just have no shot right now.
yea im not giving up yet  
Eric on Li : 5/22/2018 9:53 pm : link
but so far the new pitching regime has been a bust across the board.
RE: Reyes sucked first half last year, terrible defensively all year  
ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13972005 Eric on Li said:
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he got hot in September when the season was basically over. I get it that he might be a good mentor for Rosario, but he's basically done. Don't know why he's getting any ABs over Guillorme.


This is a false narrative. He hit up to his career averages from week three in April through the end of the year. He was also excellent over the entire second half.
Harvey with six innings  
CMicks3110 : 5/22/2018 9:58 pm : link
1 run ball against pittsburgh. Sitting 93-95, hit 96 in the first inning.
Crappy game but with Vargas and Wheeler pitching 2 of 3 games  
ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 9:59 pm : link
Ill still come away happy if we take the series with deGrom on the mound tomorrow. Sweeps should never be expected. Sweeping a team is hard.
RE: Harvey with six innings  
arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13972031 CMicks3110 said:
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1 run ball against pittsburgh. Sitting 93-95, hit 96 in the first inning.


Shocker.
I think we were very spoiled by Warthen and Long  
ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 10:02 pm : link
You can disagree with their methods but they actually transformed certain players into better versions of themselves. This isnt even remotely common around the sport. Expecting a pitching coach to transform players is not realistic IMO.
RE: Harvey with six innings  
ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13972031 CMicks3110 said:
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1 run ball against pittsburgh. Sitting 93-95, hit 96 in the first inning.


Lol. Of course.
I simply want Matz and Wheeler  
ZGiants98 : 5/22/2018 10:05 pm : link
to show what they already have. The stuff is there. I dont know what the problem is. Give me the 2016 version of Matz and the 2014 version of Wheeler and Im doing cartwheels. Those are huge sample nearly full seasons for each that they have already demonstrated quality with.

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arcarsenal : 5/22/2018 10:08 pm : link
I'm not expecting Callaway or Eiland to "transform" anyone as much as I'm looking for them to get the most out of them.

I think a lot of these guys have very good stuff but a lot of them still struggle as pitchers. I've always believed that you can't teach stuff - but you can teach pitching and location. Guys like Wheeler have everything you need to succeed - it's a mater of pitch selection, pitch location, mechanics, and consistency.

So, I do think a good pitching coach should be able to take a guy like that and turn him into something better. Within reason, of course - I'm not saying someone out there can turn Zack Wheeler into Max Scherzer. But I do think there's a lot young pitchers can learn to get better.
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