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NFT: Yankees (31-13) @ Rangers (18-31) - 5/22 - 8:05 - German

Ace718 : 5/22/2018 7:15 pm
Gardner is on the bench today against the lefty Hamels.
Didi dropped to the 5 hole against the lefty. The Big 3 righties are batting back to back again.

Yankees Lineup:

Hicks CF
Judge RF
Stanton LF
Sanchez C
Didi SS
Austin DH
Andujar 3B
Walker 1B
Torres 2B

German on the mound
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ok didi  
BleedBlue : 5/22/2018 10:51 pm : link
break out of this funk!
RE: Romine!  
section125 : 5/22/2018 10:52 pm : link
In comment 13972110 Del Shofner said:
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it's still a ball game ...


who needs Gary?

Nice to see Romine hitting well.
...  
BleedBlue : 5/22/2018 10:52 pm : link
struggling didi, im taking two pitches here lol
RE: ok didi  
Del Shofner : 5/22/2018 10:53 pm : link
In comment 13972111 BleedBlue said:
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break out of this funk!


he does!
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BleedBlue : 5/22/2018 10:53 pm : link
oh shit!!! here we come!

Fuck it, let's win this one.  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 10:53 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 5/22/2018 10:56 pm : link
ahhh shit
...  
BleedBlue : 5/22/2018 10:56 pm : link
rangers fucking suck, but today they are making all world plays in the field
RE: ...  
section125 : 5/22/2018 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13972120 BleedBlue said:
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rangers fucking suck, but today they are making all world plays in the field


Yep, they've made some crazy plays. But brings up Torres and the top of the order for the 9th.

The 8 or 9 walks hurt them.
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BleedBlue : 5/22/2018 11:00 pm : link
In comment 13972124 section125 said:
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In comment 13972120 BleedBlue said:


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rangers fucking suck, but today they are making all world plays in the field



Yep, they've made some crazy plays. But brings up Torres and the top of the order for the 9th.

The 8 or 9 walks hurt them.


be nice if we can work a man on and have a legit shot with top of lineup coming up
welp  
BleedBlue : 5/22/2018 11:12 pm : link
not looking good.

walkers AB kinda sucked, swung at a high pitch could have been working ahead...
oh well ...  
Del Shofner : 5/22/2018 11:14 pm : link
made a game of it after a terrible start.
Oh well.  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 11:19 pm : link
Hamels/German didn't bode well for us. Take another series tomorrow.
Sanchez  
Marty866b : 5/22/2018 11:32 pm : link
Any word on why he was taken out?
We're facing Doug Fister tomorrow?  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 11:36 pm : link
Thought that guy retired two years ago. He's been a thorn in our side for a while.
Sanchez tweaked something  
Phil in LA : 5/22/2018 11:36 pm : link
Running.
Calf cramp, says Boone.  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2018 11:40 pm : link
.
Caleb Smith  
13ODB : 5/23/2018 7:44 am : link
Pitched another great game for the Marlins last night. I wish the Yankees held onto him longer and have him a chance.
eh, can't win every night.  
Victor in CT : 5/23/2018 8:31 am : link
*German seems to be uncomfortable with men on base.Maybe just a bad night? See what happens next time. Extra rest perhaps a problem for all the starters? Nobody but Gray pitched well this time through. Let's see this time through with hopefully no rainouts.
*Didi @ .247 and is starting to look like Willie Mays Hays in spring training. Perhaps 20 pushups for every pop up?? Terrible at bat after the 2 walks to Stanton and Sanchez. Where's Lou Brown when you need him? :-)
*Ditto Austin, who shows why he's really not a big time player. After the Didi pop up by Didi, just hacking at garbage.
*Andujar with a dinger and a couple of nice plays a 3B. Yes Denny, what a disappointment. .285 5HR 17 RBI and playing a good 3B. Definitely needs to walk more, but that will come. The kid is a player. He'll learn.
almost forgot  
Victor in CT : 5/23/2018 8:33 am : link
some props for El Gary behind the plate last night. Got a workout from German. He was so far off the plate and in the dirt so often that it looked like lateral movement drills.
RE: almost forgot  
Stu11 : 5/23/2018 8:46 am : link
In comment 13972255 Victor in CT said:
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some props for El Gary behind the plate last night. Got a workout from German. He was so far off the plate and in the dirt so often that it looked like lateral movement drills.

Well he and especially German lolygagged after one and let Chirinos steal a run. Also he didn't stop runners from advancing early on. Listen I'm not killing the guy he has Mike Piazza power, a rifle for a throwing arm and seems to call a pretty good game. The receiving thing is a problem though and he just didn't help a struggling kid out last night by having guys advance like that. It is what it is, other catchers just seem to have better technique with blocking balls in the dirt its just never going to be a strength of his. However he creates a hell of a lot more than say a Lucroy to win a baseball game. You take the ton of good with the little bad...
Houston . . .  
Percy : 5/23/2018 8:49 am : link
We have a pitching problem.
RE: RE: almost forgot  
Victor in CT : 5/23/2018 8:53 am : link
In comment 13972265 Stu11 said:
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In comment 13972255 Victor in CT said:


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some props for El Gary behind the plate last night. Got a workout from German. He was so far off the plate and in the dirt so often that it looked like lateral movement drills.


Well he and especially German lolygagged after one and let Chirinos steal a run. Also he didn't stop runners from advancing early on. Listen I'm not killing the guy he has Mike Piazza power, a rifle for a throwing arm and seems to call a pretty good game. The receiving thing is a problem though and he just didn't help a struggling kid out last night by having guys advance like that. It is what it is, other catchers just seem to have better technique with blocking balls in the dirt its just never going to be a strength of his. However he creates a hell of a lot more than say a Lucroy to win a baseball game. You take the ton of good with the little bad...


Yeah he'll never be Munson back there, but last night I think was squarely on German. He had no idea where the ball was going.
RE: RE: almost forgot  
section125 : 5/23/2018 8:58 am : link
In comment 13972265 Stu11 said:
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In comment 13972255 Victor in CT said:


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some props for El Gary behind the plate last night. Got a workout from German. He was so far off the plate and in the dirt so often that it looked like lateral movement drills.


Well he and especially German lolygagged after one and let Chirinos steal a run. Also he didn't stop runners from advancing early on. Listen I'm not killing the guy he has Mike Piazza power, a rifle for a throwing arm and seems to call a pretty good game. The receiving thing is a problem though and he just didn't help a struggling kid out last night by having guys advance like that. It is what it is, other catchers just seem to have better technique with blocking balls in the dirt its just never going to be a strength of his. However he creates a hell of a lot more than say a Lucroy to win a baseball game. You take the ton of good with the little bad...


I was not real impressed with the technique. German was wild and missing his mark by a lot. Gary is not the most nimble catcher and is slow moving after balls away from where he is setup. And yes the PB/WP score is more on Gary than German. If you watch it, German is late, but the ball is later. Even if German is there, the runner is scoring.
It is really not worth talking about because he is what he is and as Coney said his offensive talent far outweighs his defensive lapses, which really are only the blocked balls.

Hope the calf is ok, and I wonder if all the bad pitches by German caused the cramp? That was a lot of quick movement to try and stop WPs.
German had ridiculous movement on his pitches...  
Dunedin81 : 5/23/2018 8:59 am : link
neither he nor Sanchez had any idea where the ball was going. If he can harness that great (you saw that for approximately one inning), if not he's going to get behind in counts, he's going to have to groove pitches, and those pitches are going to be hit hard.
RE: German had ridiculous movement on his pitches...  
section125 : 5/23/2018 9:05 am : link
In comment 13972279 Dunedin81 said:
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neither he nor Sanchez had any idea where the ball was going. If he can harness that great (you saw that for approximately one inning), if not he's going to get behind in counts, he's going to have to groove pitches, and those pitches are going to be hit hard.


Getting ahead is paramount. With the 1st 4 runs, he had given up only 2 hits - the home runs. So he has to be able to get those 1st pitch strikes.
All the days off, probably lead to his wildness. And it is true that he was just awful out of the stretch.
RE: RE: German had ridiculous movement on his pitches...  
Stu11 : 5/23/2018 9:08 am : link
In comment 13972285 section125 said:
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neither he nor Sanchez had any idea where the ball was going. If he can harness that great (you saw that for approximately one inning), if not he's going to get behind in counts, he's going to have to groove pitches, and those pitches are going to be hit hard.



Getting ahead is paramount. With the 1st 4 runs, he had given up only 2 hits - the home runs. So he has to be able to get those 1st pitch strikes.
All the days off, probably lead to his wildness. And it is true that he was just awful out of the stretch.

yep this free swinging Ranger team suddenly has become insanely patient the past 2 nights especially early in the games. German wasn't missing by much early on but they were patient and really jumped on a pitch he left out over the plate.
no command at all though. I think the layoff hurt him. But Boone was  
Victor in CT : 5/23/2018 9:10 am : link
merciless in the post game presser, said he's had long layoffs before and it shouldn't matter.

Still, the guy has some serious shit if he can harness it.
RE: RE: RE: German had ridiculous movement on his pitches...  
section125 : 5/23/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 13972288 Stu11 said:
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In comment 13972285 section125 said:
yep this free swinging Ranger team suddenly has become insanely patient the past 2 nights especially early in the games. German wasn't missing by much early on but they were patient and really jumped on a pitch he left out over the plate.


Smart approach against Tanaka whose out pitch(splitter) is a ball and is unhittable, anyway. So do not swing at low pitches and if they are called strikes, so be it. He needs to do something with the FB or he is finished. Should talk to CC.
Hamels would be a great pickup  
dep026 : 5/23/2018 9:27 am : link
for the Yanks.
First time we really felt the absence of Monty  
Kyle in NY : 5/23/2018 9:35 am : link
German has great stuff but the command does seem to come and go. Next start will be big for him.

Hamels would be a nice fit when the time comes and may not cost the team our best prospects given his age and contract status.

Still a lot of time to figure out that situation though. Gray and Tanaka getting back to normal would go a long way towards alleviating those concerns in the rotation. Positive start for Sonny last time out and at least Tanaka is in a better place than he was a year ago this time.

These are nitpicks though. The team is playing fantastic. What else can you say about Gleyber Torres at this point. Cashman turning scraps into Chapman, then flipping Chapman for Gleyber, and bringing Chapman back on top of it all may just be his greatest heist. And that's really saying something.
Good RAB piece on Hamels  
Kyle in NY : 5/23/2018 9:44 am : link
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Hamels has pitched very well his last four times out (five runs in 24 innings) and he’s made those four starts against the Yankees, Indians, Red Sox, and Astros. Basically the four best teams in the American League. His performance is trending in the right direction, he has a new slider that explains the uptick in strikeouts, and he has championship pedigree (2008 NLCS and World Series MVP with Phillies). Those are all positives.

The question is not whether Hamels would make the Yankees better. He obviously would. The question is whether a 34-year-old rental with home run issues is the right guy — the guy who will put the Yankees over the top — to target at the deadline. The Yankees have time on their side. My preference would be to look for a younger pitcher with more long-term upside and team control, but if that type of pitcher doesn’t become available, the Yankees can always shift gears and look at Hamels.


Will definitely be something to follow.
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Curious to see how Tanaka responds in his next start.  
bceagle05 : 5/23/2018 9:44 am : link
The way it's shaping up now, he'll be matched up against Ohtani on Sunday. During his struggles last season, he matched up one night against Darvish and pitched a gem - we'll see if this new phenom brings out the best in him and gives us some hope. If not, it might be time to panic.
alot on Hamels in yesterday's thread. Meh.  
Victor in CT : 5/23/2018 9:50 am : link
I wouldn't give up much for him. His command wasn't so hot either, but last night was one of the few times that most of the lineup was not very selective. When Stanton and Sanchez walked, Didi and Austin just hacked at garbage, nothing near a strike. And he;s a dinger machine. Yankee Stadium won't help that in its new, band box incarnation.
All depends on the price  
Kyle in NY : 5/23/2018 9:59 am : link
and the status of the rotation in July. We'll see
Ryan Bollinger promoted from Trenton..  
Dunedin81 : 5/23/2018 10:02 am : link
to take the place of Gallegos. Yeah he's more or less DFA fodder, ala Hale, but he's an interesting story. Pitched in Canada and Australia for four years, signed by the Yankees this offseason, going to pitch in the bigs now.
RE: Curious to see how Tanaka responds in his next start.  
rich in DC : 5/23/2018 10:33 am : link
In comment 13972349 bceagle05 said:
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The way it's shaping up now, he'll be matched up against Ohtani on Sunday. During his struggles last season, he matched up one night against Darvish and pitched a gem - we'll see if this new phenom brings out the best in him and gives us some hope. If not, it might be time to panic.


This is a REALLY bad take.

Does ANYONE remember Tanaka's struggles in May last year? Maybe you forgot Tanaka's 8.42 ERA, with a 1.77 WHIP, going 2-4? Maybe you forgot that Tanaka was 7-8 with a 5.47 ERA in the first half, with a WHIP of 1.373?

Anyone remember the second half or playoffs last year? Yeah, the part where Tanaka went 6-4 with a 3.77 ERA and a WHIP of 1.061. Or the playoffs, where he was the Yanks best SP- going 2-1, with a 0.90 ERA and not even giving up a run in 2 outings.

May is NOT a time for panic for SP- unless you are a 5th SP getting a hard challenge from a rookie. Tanaka will be fine. Every year, fans forget that it is a 162 game season that is a marathon. Because he gives up a LOT of HR, his ERA will run high- but he does win games because most nights, he keeps it close enough for the offense to win it. Then, seems to find an extra gear late in the season.

He's not an ace- that's Severino's job. However, as a #2 SP in the playoffs, he's fine.
RE: Ryan Bollinger promoted from Trenton..  
rich in DC : 5/23/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13972386 Dunedin81 said:
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to take the place of Gallegos. Yeah he's more or less DFA fodder, ala Hale, but he's an interesting story. Pitched in Canada and Australia for four years, signed by the Yankees this offseason, going to pitch in the bigs now.


Nice story, but he is a classic soft-tossing LHP. He really has zero prospect status with this team- though maybe some other team will latch on since he is a LHP. Maybe they can flip him for some IFA money in July.
Another thing to watch  
rich in DC : 5/23/2018 10:51 am : link
The Yanks appear to be getting some more SP rising hard through the system. A couple names you will hear a lot about later this season and should remember now- Trevor Stephan and Jonathan Loaisiga. Both are now at AA.

Stephan was last year's (2017 draft) 3rd round pick out of Arkansas. He just made his first start in AA after dominating high A ball. The AA start did not go well, but he does have big upside- as an a SP from the SEC, he should continue to move up quickly if he continues to show improvement.

Loisiga was a guy the Yanks literally picked up for nothing a couple years ago. The SF Giants originally signed him as an IFA, but he got hurt and they let him go. The Yanks signed him out of a tryout camp- but soon underwent TJ surgery. After rehab, his stuff was outstanding. He dominated the short season league last year- and despite not playing in a full season league, the Yanks added him to the 40 man roster (was Rule 5 eligible). He has already risen to AA this season. He has been VERY good, but the Yanks are capping him innings. There MIGHT be a possibility that he could be a option for the pen late in the season, assuming he doesn't reach his IP cap.

I should also note that last year's 1st round pick, Clarke Schmidt- is now throwing in extended spring training. He might be pitching in a month or so. Given his background as a star at South Carolina- where he underwent TJ surgery before the draft- he could open at high A Tampa, or even AA. Probably won't pitch in NY this year- but assuming rehab checks out and his stuff returns, he could be an option early in 2019.
Rich  
Dunedin81 : 5/23/2018 10:57 am : link
My guess is that Schmidt is on a very short leash. Tampa is an obvious choice for him because the brass can keep a close eye on him. I'd guess they'll run him out every fifth day, probably limited to 5 IP or 80 pitches, which ever comes first. Maybe shoot for 50 IP and, if health and performance merit it, the AFL.
RE: Curious to see how Tanaka responds in his next start.  
mitch300 : 5/23/2018 11:11 am : link
In comment 13972349 bceagle05 said:
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The way it's shaping up now, he'll be matched up against Ohtani on Sunday. During his struggles last season, he matched up one night against Darvish and pitched a gem - we'll see if this new phenom brings out the best in him and gives us some hope. If not, it might be time to panic.

Please tell me your joking. Time to Panic????
Unfortunately, Adams had another lousy outing last night  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2018 11:12 am : link
He had been trending up in his last few starts before that.
Christ almighty.  
bceagle05 : 5/23/2018 11:21 am : link
I was just saying that last year - in the midst of all his struggles - Tanaka pitched a great game against Darvish, clearly inspired by a high-profile match-up against his fellow countryman. Showed he still "had it." This Sunday is a similar circumstance against Ohtani, and I'm hopeful he repeats that effort. Panic may be too strong, but it was a fairly innocuous comment.

Tanaka's struggles in the first half last year were a big reason we lost the division to the Sox - if we don't win that Wild Card game, Tanaka doesn't even get a chance to redeem himself in October. He's a big part of our team, and it'd be nice if he pitched more like a #2, and less like a #4/#5. That's all.
If Didi keeps struggling  
Rover : 5/23/2018 12:06 pm : link
Maybe they will sign Machado
Yankees will need to spend the moon for Machado  
dep026 : 5/23/2018 12:15 pm : link
which I am sure they will. The phillies have no payroll and can dump a shit ton on him and I heard they are going too.
RE: If Didi keeps struggling  
section125 : 5/23/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13972759 Rover said:
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Maybe they will sign Machado


Been a few weeks. How about giving it until All Star break before signing Manny.
If the plan is to sign Machado and I'm all for it  
DennyInDenville : 5/23/2018 4:30 pm : link
I wouldn't be opposed to giving the Orioles a good not great but good haul to get him over here early assuming his agent and Cashman have an understanding that he will resign and fill out the blank check and not visit others
Is anyone concerned about Tanaka yet?  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/23/2018 4:35 pm : link
Also, I'm sure Didi will snap out of. But man, this has been quite the slide for him, both in terms of length and just how bad he's been in that time period.
RE: If the plan is to sign Machado and I'm all for it  
section125 : 5/23/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13973238 DennyInDenville said:
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I wouldn't be opposed to giving the Orioles a good not great but good haul to get him over here early assuming his agent and Cashman have an understanding that he will resign and fill out the blank check and not visit others


Peter Angelos is NOT trading Machado to the Yankees. Will not happen unless we give up Torres, Frazier and Severino or something crazy - which will also not happen. The only chance is to get him in FA after the season.
RE: RE: If the plan is to sign Machado and I'm all for it  
rich in DC : 5/23/2018 5:20 pm : link
In comment 13973269 section125 said:
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In comment 13973238 DennyInDenville said:


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I wouldn't be opposed to giving the Orioles a good not great but good haul to get him over here early assuming his agent and Cashman have an understanding that he will resign and fill out the blank check and not visit others



Peter Angelos is NOT trading Machado to the Yankees. Will not happen unless we give up Torres, Frazier and Severino or something crazy - which will also not happen. The only chance is to get him in FA after the season.


I think that the O's WILL trade Machado at the deadline- but not to the Yanks. The O's desperately need a rebuild- and can at least get a couple pieces to work with in a Machado deal.

I still think the Dodgers are the most likely destination simply because they need some more offense- and don't need Machado long term because they have Turner and Seagar. They can let Machado walk at the end of the year without a second thought.

Another possibility- the Cubs. They need a change and their window might be closing as their stars get expensive and the SP isn't getting better. Machado in Wrigley might result in crazy numbers.
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