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| ....“In-N-Out has slipped from its high. The other players are claiming mind and market share. Five Guys has expanded at a much faster rate. In-N-Out has taken a slower approach to expansion, and its locations are geographically contiguous — mostly on the West Coast,” he said. Thirty years after Five Guys first opened, there are nearly 1,500 locations globally and another 1,500 in development. Five Guys operates across the U.S. as well as in the UK, Spain, Portugal, France and Germany. In contrast, In-N-Out operates around 330 locations in six states — California, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Oregon. The company has plans to open as many as 50 locations in Colorado over the next several years. While the affordable brand has cultivated a strong, loyal following, most consumers haven’t had a chance to try the food. “Familiarity holds In-N-Out Burger back in the standings as a majority of consumers “just know the name” of the brand (35%),” according to Kanpurwala. There is a wide pricing disparity between the two brands. A burger at Five Guys starts at $7 while you can grab one at In-N-Out for $2.10. Kanpurwala noted that pricing does play a factor, but doesn’t translate to less brand power. “Five Guys is a lot more expensive than In-N-Out, but that doesn’t come through in many of our metrics. Five Guys actually comes ahead of In-N-Out when it comes to future consideration, or whether you would return for more. So that was a very surprising finding.” ... |
I have been to others that have been suspect. If run right, 5 guys can make a mean burger.
Maybe I had a bad experience with Cookout but that burger was one of the worst foods I've ever consumed. Way overcooked, not juicy at all. Was pretty drunk too and I couldn't bring myself to eating more than 3 bites. It was Columbia, SC.
I love 5 Guys. Juicy burgers and toppings are killer. best jalapenos.
I have and truth be told - it wasnt bad.
I have and truth be told - it wasnt bad.
Our does, with the quarter pound burgers.
It's definitely an improvement.
My buddy ran a dozen 5 guys in the east coast. His franchise was ranked 2nd in the nation. He left because corporate took over and bought those 12. He didnt like feeling of being told what to do.
I am fond of Five Guys - excellent fries, too, especially since they give you a wheel barrow full.
Small shout out to Smashburger. Take my son their quite a bit...
I am fond of Five Guys - excellent fries, too, especially since they give you a wheel barrow full.
Small shout out to Smashburger. Take my son their quite a bit...
Beef patty wise I like 5 guys to smash but they have good chicken and turkey options.
That and Subway. No idea how Subways stay in business.
Subway in the northeast (specifically) since there are so many mom and pop sub shops/delis that blow away Subway.
It's not any faster most of the time, the quality is worse, and maybe it's a buck or two cheaper, but I can't believe that's always enough of a draw to justify them or make them profitable.
That and Subway. No idea how Subways stay in business.
Subway in the northeast (specifically) since there are so many mom and pop sub shops/delis that blow away Subway.
It's not any faster most of the time, the quality is worse, and maybe it's a buck or two cheaper, but I can't believe that's always enough of a draw to justify them or make them profitable.
I find subway expensive as hell compared to the mom and pop shops. We have a sub place by my school that ordering a small is your meal for the day and its cheaper than subway.
I've never been, every time they go in to Boston now, they tell me they wait in line for 30 minutes to go to Shake Shack. I shake my head and feel old. They don't go into the city very often, but when they do the highlight is fast food.
I guess it's burgers and shakes. Not 100% sure.
Them and Chick-Fil-A always a line at Chick-Fil-A when I drive by.
I find subway expensive as hell compared to the mom and pop shops. We have a sub place by my school that ordering a small is your meal for the day and its cheaper than subway.
Then you have unusually cheap mom and pop places. I don't eat at Subway, but it IS cheap, and definitely cheaper than independent sandwich places around here (that nevertheless have infinitely better sandwiches).
Love Shake Shack. I usually enjoy their food more than the Mets whenever I go to Citi Field.
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how our local 5-guys stays open. I no zero people who go there.
That and Subway. No idea how Subways stay in business.
Subway in the northeast (specifically) since there are so many mom and pop sub shops/delis that blow away Subway.
It's not any faster most of the time, the quality is worse, and maybe it's a buck or two cheaper, but I can't believe that's always enough of a draw to justify them or make them profitable.
I find subway expensive as hell compared to the mom and pop shops. We have a sub place by my school that ordering a small is your meal for the day and its cheaper than subway.
It's hard for me to compare - by price.
My sub shop/local delis are a little more expensive, it's usually $8 or $9 for a large sub, but like you said that large sub is massive and could feed a family. Subway is all pre-measured and disgusting.
In N Out is my favorite burger from fast food.
Re: Chik-Fil-A - I live in northern Virginia, near Dulles airport, and there are four of them within five miles of me. And I swear the traffic in their drive thrus is akin to the traffic on the Beltway. They must be making money hand over fist...
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Their franchise licenses are cheap and they'll sell them to just about anyone (as opposed to someone like Chik-Fil-A who has an acceptance rate about like Harvard when it comes to applying for a franchise), which is why their quality control is terrible. They consequently have an enormous amount of churn in their franchises - they constantly have bunches of them opening and bunches going out of business.
Re: Chik-Fil-A - I live in northern Virginia, near Dulles airport, and there are four of them within five miles of me. And I swear the traffic in their drive thrus is akin to the traffic on the Beltway. They must be making money hand over fist...
Same in NYC, people love fried chicken.
Agreed. Delicious burgers and the best value in fast food. Plus Cheerwine is awesome.
Well, most of us live on the East Coast and don't have that option, so...
You've been on a diet? :)
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I find subway expensive as hell compared to the mom and pop shops. We have a sub place by my school that ordering a small is your meal for the day and its cheaper than subway.
Then you have unusually cheap mom and pop places. I don't eat at Subway, but it IS cheap, and definitely cheaper than independent sandwich places around here (that nevertheless have infinitely better sandwiches).
Some of the local establishments in NEPA are insanely cheap. You can find NY quality large pizzas for 9 dollars. You can get a full breakfast for 3-4 dollars. Its why I am fat and happy and not broke.
5 guys has about 10 times the number of locations. People don’t vote for things they’ve never eaten.
Just like anything else, some locations are better than others and it can be hit or miss, but I did really like the one that I frequented in college.
That's the only way a place like Subway competes in markets like NYC, on cost. There's no way you're walking into the average deli here and coming out with a 'foot long sub' for anything close to $5.
Of course, there's no comparison in quality either. Just because it's cheaper doesn't mean I'm going to start buying my sandwiches at 7-11, but for some people they might not have the means to eat better.
I like 5 Guys, a lot actually, but I've never seen one nearly as crowded as In-N-Out. I know some of that's pricing, but people genuinely go nuts over In-N-Out. I just don't see that with 5 Guys.
This X 10
So many great independent shops to get out of this world subs at.
Heck, I'm in the sub abyss down here and if I get a sub that isn't at a Mom and Pop place, it is at Publix. They crush any Subway, Quizno's or Blimpie by far.
I probably eat at the Five Guys in Rockville at least twice a month b/c it is my son's favorite place - my son has autism and isn't terribly flexible on his food choices. Their hamburger is a bit too heavy for me as compared to Elevation Burger.
The cold cuts are usually wet and slimy and everything is super processed. Almost any local deli should be able to provide a better hero/sub.
For the extra 3 or 4 bucks, it's a no-brainer.
The discussions over these fast food garbage chains and which ones are the best are absurdly hilarious.
You might as well eat dog crap on a bun.
I probably eat at the Five Guys in Rockville at least twice a month b/c it is my son's favorite place - my son has autism and isn't terribly flexible on his food choices. Their hamburger is a bit too heavy for me as compared to Elevation Burger.
The Elevation Burger in my neighborhood went out of business pretty quickly. I don't think it even lasted a full year. I never got around to trying it but a few people I know had good things to say. I wonder what the issue was, it was in a high-traffic area.
Bullshit. The majority of bars in my experience have food that is mediocre at best.
Re: Chik-Fil-A - I live in northern Virginia, near Dulles airport, and there are four of them within five miles of me. And I swear the traffic in their drive thrus is akin to the traffic on the Beltway. They must be making money hand over fist...
Same in NYC, people love fried chicken.
They have a breakfast menu and I see a lot of cars in line in the AM now.
I'd love to know what they typically make in gross revenue in a day because I guarantee that they are leaving a lot of money on table by staying closed on Sundays.
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local bars and get a burger, fries and a beer that will blow away any of the chains.
Most bars get their food from Sysco that is frozen patties and the like. Hell, if you go to a pizza joint and get chicken fingers or mozzerella sticks, you are often getting them straight from a freezer box.
Finding a bar that makes it owns burgers, unless it is a brewpub that does most things from scratch is a tough thing to find
Ate at Fudruckers during a hockey tournament for one of my kids near Merrimack College in Mass this past February. Decent burger, I didn't even know they still existed.
totally forgot about that so I need to amend by OP.
I'll take an In-N-Out double-double with grilled onions any day of the week over 5 Guys.
Tommy's (mostly So. Cal) is also great.
So many great independent shops to get out of this world subs at.
Heck, I'm in the sub abyss down here and if I get a sub that isn't at a Mom and Pop place, it is at Publix. They crush any Subway, Quizno's or Blimpie by far.
I miss Italian grocers. There are a couple here, but they don't do, say $3 subs to go.
I’ll only watch an episode if Guy Fieri chokes to death. F him.
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on diners drive ins and dives looks fucking amazing but there arent any around me.
I’ll only watch an episode if Guy Fieri chokes to death. F him.
Hes easy to ignore. And I use the recipes for some of the things I make when watching the show. The concept of the show is great. The food looks amazing. Well guy is an ass - but you throw him out and just look at the food - its worth it.
Some of these hosts are like watching paint dry and just come off as awkward.
At least Guy keeps the show moving along and you get to see how a lot of the recipes are made.
Some of these hosts are like watching paint dry and just come off as awkward.
At least Guy keeps the show moving along and you get to see how a lot of the recipes are made.
He's annoying, but it's entertaining enough. And frankly, I've stopped at a number of the places profiled on the show and I've never been disappointed.
but in fact the show is promoting great small restaurants where the choices are probably only fast food
he is doing a great service educating the public
Never been there, but I see theyir Prices are a lot lower, In and Out is a different category really - it’s competition is McDonalds, Burger King etc.
I can't stand him.
A lot of the spots he visits are great, though. He's hard to ignore and get around but if you can, it's usually a pretty good watch.
but in fact the show is promoting great small restaurants where the choices are probably only fast food
he is doing a great service educating the public
I just wish they'd have someone else host that show. I can't stand listening to him.
but in fact the show is promoting great small restaurants where the choices are probably only fast food
he is doing a great service educating the public
And yes, someone else could do it, and probably not be as annoying in the process. But it is his niche, and a lot of people - me included - will watch even if it takes enduring him because people like food and travel and especially food travel, and it is family friendly.
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on diners drive ins and dives looks fucking amazing but there arent any around me.
I’ll only watch an episode if Guy Fieri chokes to death. F him.
Hes easy to ignore. And I use the recipes for some of the things I make when watching the show. The concept of the show is great. The food looks amazing. Well guy is an ass - but you throw him out and just look at the food - its worth it.
Damn, anybody that drives in a drop top 68 SS Camaro is ok with me. I love the show. One of my late night, can't sleep, go tos..
So many great independent shops to get out of this world subs at.
Heck, I'm in the sub abyss down here and if I get a sub that isn't at a Mom and Pop place, it is at Publix. They crush any Subway, Quizno's or Blimpie by far.
Never tried Shake Shack or IN N Out
- Chili's (I was shocked how good it was)
The first time I went to 5 Guys, I loved it. One opened recently near my home and I don't know if I overrated them initially or this one just isn't as good, but I'm down on 5 Guys. My local Wendy's is better than my local 5 Guys.
May not be exactly in the same category as the OP but worthy of consideration. Also has salads and veggie burgers. A chain in its infancy, I think.
I liked Shake Shack (in Baltimore) >> 5 Guys, which is slightly better than In and Out (which was pretty good, and much less $$ than any of the others, but over rated as well).
And you can get a fried egg on your burger there...I’ll go to any burger joint that offers a fried egg
Whataburger has a cult like following in Texas...some are better than others. Which makes no sense...I have had great Whataburger and bad Whataburger.
I’m not a ketchup guy...but the Whataburger Spicy Ketchup is awesome. It’s not as good as Heinz Jalapeño Ketchup but close.
I have eaten 5 Guys twice...it was a good burger.
Smash was good as well.
By far the best burger is available at Fuddruckers. Provided of course you go to one run by a good Franchisee. Wildly inconsistent from one area to another. All franchises and very little involvement from above. But if done right, no-one beats their burgers IMO.
I don't recall any Five Guys in Brooklyn, aside from the burger chain that was well established before they opened their first location here.
Ouch.
However, Smashburger changed my mind. The way they season their beef and then sear it gives it such great flavor. The rest of the burger is however you want it.
Anyone ever had a Freddy's Steakburger? They're pretty good too.
Basically for a burger to be at/near the top of my list, it has to be customizable with very fresh toppings, a quality bun, and the beef must be seasoned well.
5 guys gets only part of that right, imo. The beef isn't anything special.
Great fries