- Justus Sheffield is off the DL and starting for SWB tonight
- Tommy Kahnle continues his rehab and is joining SWB.
- Greg Bird is playing for the 3rd straight game at SWB and batting 3rd. Close to returning.
- Clint Frazier is batting 2nd and playing CF for SWB.
Really hope that's the plan sooner then later. I think Gardy would be a fine 9th hitter and Gleyber just might continue to shine as the lead off man getting that extra AB every night and having Aaron Freaking Judge protecting him.
Really hope that's the plan sooner then later. I think Gardy would be a fine 9th hitter and Gleyber just might continue to shine as the lead off man getting that extra AB every night and having Aaron Freaking Judge protecting him.
Boone was quoted in an article on Monday that there are no plans to move Gleyber up in the order.
Selfishly, I hate having to wait an hour to see him hit.
Let him earn his stripes. Yes, he has been fanfuckintastic so far but baseball is not a linear progression. He'll hit a snag at some point. Let him get through some more MLB pitching. It isn't like we are hurting for offense. Let this play out naturally. What you don't want is puttinh added pressure on him in the leadoff spot, having him struggle, and then move him back out of that spot. He is kicking ass now. Let him ride that out.
Sheffield was expected to be called up at the end of the year
at the earliest. It's Chance Adams who has really wet the bed and missed a great chance to be called up and make an impact. He really has regressed and I don't see him being called up for a while. Sheffield has definitely jumped him in the pecking order. I mean Sheffield was always the way better talent but he was behind Adams developmental wise.
I wouldn't do it now either but once he hits 250 ABs or so
It should be discussed heavily , and it will. He's at 88 ABs so far , and I agree, let him see more pitching and don't rush it, at all. But if he keeps proving this is him, then eventually mid summer if / when we need a pick me up , maybe we just do the flip flop 1/9 9/1
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- Clint Frazier is batting 2nd and playing CF for SWB.
Now that is interesting!
The tools are there, and when he was drafted , he was also seen as a guy who can play CF
"Clint Frazier is a 2013 OF/3B with a 6-0 190 lb. frame from Loganville, GA who attends Loganville HS. Extremely strong tightly wound body, 100% quick twitch fiber. Right handed hitter, straight stance, short rock back load, late quick hand hitch to start swing, extraordinary bat speed, very short swing arch, plus/plus raw power without length or effort, patient hitter who sees the ball and explodes on it. 6.42 runner, former third baseman now in the outfield, centerfield tools, has had a tender arm but still showed plus raw arm strength. Five-tool talent and can use them. Good student, verbal commitment to Georgia."
National Rank - Class of 2013
Ranking Last Updated: May 20, 2013
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Position - OF
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Showed all 5 tools @ PG National. 6.4 runner, 98 mph from OF, Big power and bat speed, Very good at WWBA and PG AA Link to a old report - ( New Window )
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- Clint Frazier is batting 2nd and playing CF for SWB.
Now that is interesting!
The tools are there, and when he was drafted , he was also seen as a guy who can play CF
"Clint Frazier is a 2013 OF/3B with a 6-0 190 lb. frame from Loganville, GA who attends Loganville HS. Extremely strong tightly wound body, 100% quick twitch fiber. Right handed hitter, straight stance, short rock back load, late quick hand hitch to start swing, extraordinary bat speed, very short swing arch, plus/plus raw power without length or effort, patient hitter who sees the ball and explodes on it. 6.42 runner, former third baseman now in the outfield, centerfield tools, has had a tender arm but still showed plus raw arm strength. Five-tool talent and can use them. Good student, verbal commitment to Georgia."
National Rank - Class of 2013
Ranking Last Updated: May 20, 2013
Overall
1
Position - OF
1
Showed all 5 tools @ PG National. 6.4 runner, 98 mph from OF, Big power and bat speed, Very good at WWBA and PG AA Link to a old report - ( New Window )
but Ruocco just said Judge leads baseball with most called strikes outside the zone and the Yankees as a team have lead with the most called strikes outside the strike zone.
Somebody needs to go to Joe Torre and pound the table (or whoever is the supervisor of umpires.)
There just trying to give the rest of baseball a chance against this team. Imagine how bad they would be crushing teams, if it were fair.
Not saying it shouldnt, just amazing how great this team is.
When one guys cools off the other guys pick up. Just so much balance.
but Ruocco just said Judge leads baseball with most called strikes outside the zone and the Yankees as a team have lead with the most called strikes outside the strike zone.
Somebody needs to go to Joe Torre and pound the table (or whoever is the supervisor of umpires.)
Good pitching shuts down good hitting in the postseason. The Yankees are going to have a very tough time with the Red Sox and Astros with the current rotation. Except for Sevy they will have a pitching disadvantage in every other game against those clubs. Is there a Yankee fan here who has any confidence in any of our starters besides Sevy? I certainly don't.
Tanaka and CC are potentially big problems going forward. Bullpen isn't much better, outside of Chapman. Giving up 5 run leads like it's nothing against a sub-par team.
team again, wow. No excuse for this team to be losing this game. Meanwhile Boston's HC Cora doing a real good job.
Go away you scumbag Boston fan. Tired of your trolling ass. Oh, and go look at the standings. All of your posts are blowing Boston and ripping the Yankees. Fuck off now.
Hopefully just a pitching slump and some relievers that have been overworked because of injuries. But its hard to see them not having to make a move for pitching at some point
Between Boone and the blind monkeys calling check swings,
It's hurt us a few times since they've been out. It is also the likely reason Boone stayed with Betances for an extra inning.
And WTF is wrong with Betances? Why is he so consistently awful in a 2nd inning of work? I know that he's terrible with men on and that may play a part in it, but it sure doesn't seem like the sole reason.
But I'm calling it like it is. HC Cora has been doing a way better job then Boone imo. Look at Cora's last to games and see how he used his bullpen. I know the Yanks bullpen was awful today, but Boone was part of the problem as well. 10-7 And you allow 4 runs?? I didn't think it was possible to make Texas look like the #1 team in MLB, but the Boone and the Yanks did that today. Smh..
But I'm calling it like it is. HC Cora has been doing a way better job then Boone imo. Look at Cora's last to games and see how he used his bullpen. I know the Yanks bullpen was awful today, but Boone was part of the problem as well. 10-7 And you allow 4 runs?? I didn't think it was possible to make Texas look like the #1 team in MLB, but the Boone and the Yanks did that today. Smh..
yeah hes been a freaking genius penciling JD and Mookie in the lineup and running Sale out there every 5th day. Please.
agree that was probably the worst loss of the season.. With the bats hot, taking a huge lead, against the 4th worst team in the league, and after losing the first game, just embarrassing..
Hell, it hasn't even been on the offense recently. It's been on the rotation and bullpen more times than not. Outside of Sevy and Chapman, everyone in the rotation and bullpen have been quite questionable recently. It's actually scary how bad they've been, but the offense has bailed them out a ton. They even scored 10 runs tonight. 10 runs not being enough to beat the lowly Rangers shows you had bad CC and the bullpen were tonight.
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
Hell, it hasn't even been on the offense recently. It's been on the rotation and bullpen more times than not. Outside of Sevy and Chapman, everyone in the rotation and bullpen have been quite questionable recently. It's actually scary how bad they've been, but the offense has bailed them out a ton. They even scored 10 runs tonight. 10 runs not being enough to beat the lowly Rangers shows you had bad CC and the bullpen were tonight.
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
haha
yea, if our bullpen gets it together with kahnle and warren back plus add a SP or two and we will be a very good team for a while
bringing in Shreve. But he cant account for the rest of the staff giving up 10+ runs to one of the leagues worst offenses.
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
bringing in Shreve. But he cant account for the rest of the staff giving up 10+ runs to one of the leagues worst offenses.
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
Thats a fair point, often Robertson is thrown into jams because of guys like Shreve failing to get outs with the lead. So these arent the easiest spots for him. Hes set high standards with past performances though and he isnt meeting them.
I think in that ballpark, with the way the series has gone, you have to try to get those last 12 outs with Robertson, Betances, Chapman only. Shreve cant see the light of day there.
Not sure what to make of CC. At some point this run hes been in will end and of course hes start to start with that balky knee. Just going to chalk this one up to a big man pitching in the Texas heat. But his next few starts are worth keeping an eye on.
Even though the bullpen has been shaky, I would not have Robertson after Shreve, just hasn't been consistent enough to put him in that position especially with Texas bats being as hot as they where. Would have preferred to see Cole, Green or even Betances after Shreve. Last thing you want is to give up 4 runs being up 10-7?!
Rotation is garbage aside from Sevy. Mongomery needs to get back here quick he is our second best pitcher. Cashman better trade for Hamels at the deadline because this team will not make a World Series with this pitching. and they also need Warren and Kahnle back because this bullpen is another concern. This is why I think Boston is better they have better pitching.
- Sheffield pitch 4 shutout innings (with 5 Ks) for SWB last night.
- Greg Bird was 2 for 5 with another HR.
- Kahnle began his come back pitching 1 inning, giving up 2 hits and a run. Hopefully, it was just knocking off the rust and not a continuation of his performance prior to his DL stint.
Jesus Christ, this guy is a putz on many of the Yankee threads:
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I know the Yanks bullpen was awful today, but Boone was part of the problem as well. 10-7 And you allow 4 runs?? I didn't think it was possible to make Texas look like the #1 team in MLB, but the Boone and the Yanks did that today. Smh..
A team lost a 10-7 lead! stop the presses!!! Boone allowed the Rangers to score those runs? He allowed Robertson to miss the strike zone and throw meatballs? Why do people blame the manager after each loss, especially in one where the players obviously fail to execute?
I bet Cora didn't take shit for trotting out the hand posing, beard-swathed closer for the 8th inning when the Yanks shellacked him?
what a weird series. Texas who has been struggling all season offensively, rakes like the '27 Yankees for 3 days. Seriously seems like they were stealing signs or something. They have been swinging at everything all season especially with 2 strikes, and all series they were laying off 2 strike pitches barely out of the zone. I mean Ronald Guzman? seriously? They guy probably was one of the worst hitting every day 1B all season and spends the whole series raking like '97 Tino Martinez. Oh well Susan thats baseball! Its a marathon these things happen. I despise Michael Kay but one thing he says a lot was very true visa vi having to use Schreve in the 6th last night. It may be 162 separate games, but decisions you make lead into the next game or even two. Boone decided to go with Green for 2 innings Monday, when he probably should have gone to Betances there. If he does that he could have had Green available last night to pitch the 6th, Betances the 7th and Robbie the 8th and we probably win. Oh well, no biggie just move on. Not ready to make definitive decisions about our pitching off this trip. Tanaka and CC have struggled their last 3 turns but they have a track record and I trust them to get it together.
ironically not on the strike zone but on checked swings. If they were consistent that would have been fine, but the second strike on Gary in the 9th was not as blatant as a couple of those checked swings.
Blame Boone if you want to, but credit him for pushing the right buttons over the last month.
That's why I don't understand why some BBIers think CC and Tanaka last few outings are just aberrations.
How do you reconcile that opinion with what everyone assumed BEFORE the season even got underway???
In any event, zero reason to panic with such a strong record so far. IMO, the biggest panic mistake would be for Cashman to give up on young players to secure another starter.
My only complaint besides our pitching at times is
our situational hitting by some of the young guys. Runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs and most of our young guys are coming out of their shoes trying to crush the ball instead of squaring one up and getting the ball out of the infield.
How long it will be before CC goes on the DL. The past couple of seasons, it seems whenever he goes through a terrible stretch like this he suddenly ends up on the DL. Usually the balky knee flaring up
whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet
whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet
Cole is just much more talented at this point than Tanaka and CC.
He would have def been good here, maybe not what he is in Houston but he would have gotten a ton of run support. He was the move to make. Now that we didn't, fine....they still should and I suspect will make a deadline deal
whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet
Cole is just much more talented at this point than Tanaka and CC.
He would have def been good here, maybe not what he is in Houston but he would have gotten a ton of run support. He was the move to make. Now that we didn't, fine....they still should and I suspect will make a deadline deal
Cole is NOT more talented than Tanaka- CC, ok- but that's the Yanks #4 SP.
I REALLY don't get the people panicking over the SP- in May. The SP has generally been pretty good. They got a bad start from CC- it happens. Ironically, after the meltdowns some on this site had over Gray, he's now been pretty good of late.
Tanaka has been on and off- depends on whether he is giving up HR or not. Severino has been an ace. Montgomery is hurt, but he will be back.
The trade deadline is literally two months away- but if you listened to the "sky-is-falling" brigade, you would think it was tomorrow and the Yanks were in danger of falling out of the playoff race.
Hello, McFly, they have the second best record in baseball.
Tanaka was TERRIBLE last May- but was strong in the second half and in the playoffs. Not much to worry about there. Gray looks more like what they traded for. Severino is a true #1 SP. That gives them 3 solid SP in the playoffs- teams only need 4.
The Yanks have a lot of choices going forward. They can play their own guys (Sheffield, German, Adams, etc), they can make a big trade- or they can stay put and go with Montgomery for their #4 SP in the playoffs.
Remember that the #4 SP likely only makes 1 start in each series- and depending on off-days, might not make any.
Focus on the big picture, not your day-to-day fantasies and woes.
I was worried I'd just read the rantings of a bunch of fans who aren't enjoying this crazy run we've been on... We slow down a little bit and all of a sudden we only have 1 quality pitcher. Everyone got on their period because we actually lost a close game. Never mind Gray has three QS in his last 4 starts including an 8 inning 1 run gem...
People are freaking out about pitching because that was the story
they told themselves going into the season. And maybe it does work out that way, but I'm not going to lose my mind over a rough patch of pitching for a week or two in May.
RE: People are freaking out about pitching because that was the story
they told themselves going into the season. And maybe it does work out that way, but I'm not going to lose my mind over a rough patch of pitching for a week or two in May.
I have to wonder if those people even watch baseball. The Yankees starting pitching was tops last post-season. We lost because the bats failed to execute, not the pitchers and definitely not the starting pitchers...
Guys like Gray, Tanaka , CC, Monty , Cessa even , can all win us more then half the games going forward.. with this lineup.
Now, come postseason time, we still have our Ace, and will need 2 others to step up. Tanaka will be one, and the other will emerge from the group.
In the playoffs I would absolutely go 3 man rotation , and pitch Sevy on 3 days rest and ride him . He can handle it, as long as we keep being responsible with him during the season.
But they have to compete in the playoffs against Houston, whose staff is incredible. It certainly wouldn't hurt to beef up the rotation and get Kahnle, Warren and Montgomery back. But adding an ace would be a great benefit.
I may not be remembering this well, but wasn't Pittsburgh asking for 3 of Frazier, Torres, Andujar, Sheffield, Adams or Florial as part of the Cole deal? They got less than that from Houston, but it would be hard to give up that prospect load for Cole.
Just an awareness that the Sox are for real and this year's Wild Card game won't feature Ervin Santana and the lowly Twins - more like Ohtani or Paxton.
Top to bottom, the pitching staff needs to pick it up a bit, that's all. Classifying every complaint as "the sky is falling" is more annoying than original complaints.
The Sox still have a very top heavy lineup and rotation
After Betts and Martinez, what do you have? Boegarts, who's coming back to earth after a crazy start. Mitch Moreland hitting WAYYYY over his head. Zero production out of their catchers. Bradley can't hit. Devers stinks. Nunez stinks. They're getting Pedroia back but the guy is 35 - who knows what he's going to do even if he can stay on the field? Benentendi? Eh.....pretty good hitter, nothing too special. Hanley's on the downslope.
Rotation, same thing. Sale is Sale (although he's practically guaranteed to fade late in the year, it's what he's done his entire career). Porcello coming back to earth after a crazy start. Price is washed up. Pomeranz is trash. ERod is mediocre.
and if my life depended on it, I'd bet on the Yankees winning the division, but it's no sure thing. Hanley's older but he's motivated to earn that $20+ million vesting option. So far he's having a good year. Betts and JD are having MVP years. The rest is nothing special but guys like Benintendi and Nunez are scrappy enough to contribute. Price has pitched better lately and performs better against the rest of the league. Lots of shitty teams for them to feast on too, just like us. I'm not one to wish injuries on people, but if Sale wants to strain a hammy and miss a month, I'd be OK with it.
Also, the Yankees are much better positioned to deal for help
than Boston is. Dombrowski has done his usual thing emptying out the farm system, and they don't have all that much to deal. The Yankees still have an upper echelon farm system even after the graduations.
RE: RE: People are freaking out about pitching because that was the story
they told themselves going into the season. And maybe it does work out that way, but I'm not going to lose my mind over a rough patch of pitching for a week or two in May.
I have to wonder if those people even watch baseball. The Yankees starting pitching was tops last post-season. We lost because the bats failed to execute, not the pitchers and definitely not the starting pitchers...
Exactly. The bats went silent in the post season last year. The pitching will be fine.
hardly guarantees pitching well this October, even with the same cast. Houston pitched well last October and added Gerrit Cole anyway.
Apples and oranges. They gave away chump change for Cole. Hardly what was asked of the Yankees. And the point remains, we don't have reason to be extremely down on our starters. We can slump and still recognize that we're not bottom of the barrel just for slumping...
BTW who the fuck called Monty our second best starter?
I know they say absence makes the heart grow fonder, but come the fuck on. Monty is perfect for a bottom of the rotation guy. But when the fuck did he become our #2?
and I'm not convinced he's morphed into prime Roger Clemens yet either, so I'm not losing sleep over it. But I don't think everyone's just gonna pick up where they left off last October. I'm guessing a pitcher will be acquired between now and the deadline, and Justus Sheffield will be given a look, even if it's just a bullpen role.
RE: I understand, I didn't want them to trade for Cole
and I'm not convinced he's morphed into prime Roger Clemens yet either, so I'm not losing sleep over it. But I don't think everyone's just gonna pick up where they left off last October. I'm guessing a pitcher will be acquired between now and the deadline, and Justus Sheffield will be given a look, even if it's just a bullpen role.
Agreed that adding to our SP could be a boon. But, Tanaka and Gray aren't the complete shit some on these threads would have us believe. Adding Hamels would be awesome though.
If there's a deal out there that makes sense, then great. I just don't want them to make a deal just to make one and give up a lot for a guy who really isn't that much of an upgrade, like Hamels.
RE: RE: I understand, I didn't want them to trade for Cole
and I'm not convinced he's morphed into prime Roger Clemens yet either, so I'm not losing sleep over it. But I don't think everyone's just gonna pick up where they left off last October. I'm guessing a pitcher will be acquired between now and the deadline, and Justus Sheffield will be given a look, even if it's just a bullpen role.
Agreed that adding to our SP could be a boon. But, Tanaka and Gray aren't the complete shit some on these threads would have us believe. Adding Hamels would be awesome though.
I'm not saying the Yanks shouldn't be looking for more SP- but it isn't a crisis or a playoff-dooming need.
I also get a BIG kick out of posters pointing out how great the Astros rotation is- completely forgetting that the Yanks took 2 of 3 from the Astros- in Houston- and could have won all 3 with slightly better luck.
Remember that the Yanks couldn't beat Houston at home last year- lost all 4 games in Houston during the ALCS- and now know that they can win there. The main reason the Astros took out the Yanks was that the Yanks couldn't get runners on last season. This year's team has a MUCH better OBP- and works pitch counts better. When Bird returns, it will be even better yet.
Think about it- the Yanks have the second best record in baseball with Sanchez hitting .228 (though he does have a .329 OBP), Gardner hitting .233, Didi hasn't hit a thing in May, Walker and Stanton have only begun to hit in the past couple weeks and Bird hasn't played yet.
The bullpen is also overworked because Kahnle and Warren have only been healthy enough to throw 15 and 2/3 innings combined- though Kahnle is probably back within the week and Warren a few weeks behind him.
This team isn't even hitting its stride yet. LOTS of underperformers who will eventually hit/pitch to the numbers on the back of their baseball cards. Time to relax and let the season play itself out.
RE: RE: RE: I understand, I didn't want them to trade for Cole
Remember that the Yanks couldn't beat Houston at home last year- lost all 4 games in Houston during the ALCS- and now know that they can win there. The main reason the Astros took out the Yanks was that the Yanks couldn't get runners on last season. This year's team has a MUCH better OBP- and works pitch counts better. When Bird returns, it will be even better yet.
Excellent point, and that is promising. Last year's offense had firepower, but didn't get much traffic on the bases. If you remember, the Astros took that same step from 2016 to 2017 - jettisoned some of the high strikeout guys (including the great Chris Carter) and added in some contact/OBP guys to grind pitching staffs down.
I know it's a lot to put on a 20-year-old, but I wonder if we would've beaten Houston last year with Gleyber in the mix. There were some scoring opportunities in those games and the bottom of the order came up a little short. There were a lot of outs down there.
I said this in the other thread... I'd love JA Happ.
Remember that the Yanks couldn't beat Houston at home last year- lost all 4 games in Houston during the ALCS- and now know that they can win there. The main reason the Astros took out the Yanks was that the Yanks couldn't get runners on last season. This year's team has a MUCH better OBP- and works pitch counts better. When Bird returns, it will be even better yet.
Excellent point, and that is promising. Last year's offense had firepower, but didn't get much traffic on the bases. If you remember, the Astros took that same step from 2016 to 2017 - jettisoned some of the high strikeout guys (including the great Chris Carter) and added in some contact/OBP guys to grind pitching staffs down.
I know it's a lot to put on a 20-year-old, but I wonder if we would've beaten Houston last year with Gleyber in the mix. There were some scoring opportunities in those games and the bottom of the order came up a little short. There were a lot of outs down there.
We replaced Castro with Torres and Stanton.
Yeah, and Ellsbury and Headley were the DHs in the playoffs
CC on the bump, shaky for sure, but texas isnt a big time hitting team, he should be okay!
Smart to sit El Gary after the cramps, let's hope he's back Friday and keeps raking
I think CC will give us 6 strong innings tonight, 2 ER or less.
- Tommy Kahnle continues his rehab and is joining SWB.
- Greg Bird is playing for the 3rd straight game at SWB and batting 3rd. Close to returning.
- Clint Frazier is batting 2nd and playing CF for SWB.
All in due time. I like Gardy's speed in front of Judge. I think he may get to lead off after ASB.
Really hope that's the plan sooner then later. I think Gardy would be a fine 9th hitter and Gleyber just might continue to shine as the lead off man getting that extra AB every night and having Aaron Freaking Judge protecting him.
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Really hope that's the plan sooner then later. I think Gardy would be a fine 9th hitter and Gleyber just might continue to shine as the lead off man getting that extra AB every night and having Aaron Freaking Judge protecting him.
...we need help tonight CC.
- Clint Frazier is batting 2nd and playing CF for SWB.
Now that is interesting!
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- Clint Frazier is batting 2nd and playing CF for SWB.
Now that is interesting!
The tools are there, and when he was drafted , he was also seen as a guy who can play CF
"Clint Frazier is a 2013 OF/3B with a 6-0 190 lb. frame from Loganville, GA who attends Loganville HS. Extremely strong tightly wound body, 100% quick twitch fiber. Right handed hitter, straight stance, short rock back load, late quick hand hitch to start swing, extraordinary bat speed, very short swing arch, plus/plus raw power without length or effort, patient hitter who sees the ball and explodes on it. 6.42 runner, former third baseman now in the outfield, centerfield tools, has had a tender arm but still showed plus raw arm strength. Five-tool talent and can use them. Good student, verbal commitment to Georgia."
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- Clint Frazier is batting 2nd and playing CF for SWB.
Now that is interesting!
The tools are there, and when he was drafted , he was also seen as a guy who can play CF
"Clint Frazier is a 2013 OF/3B with a 6-0 190 lb. frame from Loganville, GA who attends Loganville HS. Extremely strong tightly wound body, 100% quick twitch fiber. Right handed hitter, straight stance, short rock back load, late quick hand hitch to start swing, extraordinary bat speed, very short swing arch, plus/plus raw power without length or effort, patient hitter who sees the ball and explodes on it. 6.42 runner, former third baseman now in the outfield, centerfield tools, has had a tender arm but still showed plus raw arm strength. Five-tool talent and can use them. Good student, verbal commitment to Georgia."
National Rank - Class of 2013
Ranking Last Updated: May 20, 2013
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Position - OF
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Showed all 5 tools @ PG National. 6.4 runner, 98 mph from OF, Big power and bat speed, Very good at WWBA and PG AA Link to a old report - ( New Window )
That's good to know
Somebody needs to go to Joe Torre and pound the table (or whoever is the supervisor of umpires.)
Didn't he just come off DL?
Probably on a pitch limit.
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Didn't he just come off DL?
Yes
yea been saying it.
def need AT LEAST one by deadline.
we have some serious question marks in the rotation...this isnt a good offensive team we are playing either
his two strike hitting is AMAZING, something you dont see out of such a young kid.
he is a star in the making
Our offense can carry us. Don't need to make a deal now, wait until the deadline. The asking price now will be higher.
Yes, all season. Kay has been calling strike outs at just about the time the player swings.
Yes... I did find his excitement on Gleyber's HR infinitely less annoying.
And then fucks up the chopper...
I've been wondering if it was the MLB.TV feed. But yeah it is like a 1/2 sec different.
Not saying it shouldnt, just amazing how great this team is.
When one guys cools off the other guys pick up. Just so much balance.
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Somebody needs to go to Joe Torre and pound the table (or whoever is the supervisor of umpires.)
Because he hasn't given up an earned run since coming back from SWB..?
What a lousy pitch choice.
Boone with a big mistake bringing Shreve after pitching last night.
You could argue about the check swings, but he's been very good on 98% of the pitches and none of Robertson's were bad. Just bad pitching by DRob.
CC fell apart and gave up 5. Then Shreve and Robertson had aversions to throwing strikes and when they did laid eggs.
And Boone isn't? They're separated by a half game.
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team again, wow. No excuse for this team to be losing this game. Meanwhile Boston's HC Cora doing a real good job.
And Boone isn't? They're separated by a half game.
Don't waste your time with that clown. Halfwit who only shows up to bitch when they lose.
Go away you scumbag Boston fan. Tired of your trolling ass. Oh, and go look at the standings. All of your posts are blowing Boston and ripping the Yankees. Fuck off now.
Watch the replay. The umpire calls time out almost immediately. Then says HBP. Had to do with Stanton leaving the box.
Betances is a ONE inning guy, no more.
CC is trash. 7 ERs to this bum ass team...
We badly need starting pitching.
10 runs and in serious threat to lose this game. Sickening
Boone is a fucking clown with this shit. Betances isn't good after one inning yet he makes the same mistake again.
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Oh, that's right. We're talking about Yankees pitching here. Incredible.
Betances is a ONE inning guy, no more.
CC is trash. 7 ERs to this bum ass team...
We badly need starting pitching.
10 runs and in serious threat to lose this game. Sickening
We all know how you feel. We don't need your wisdom several times per game.
When will the Chasen Shreve nightmare finally end?
And WTF is wrong with Betances? Why is he so consistently awful in a 2nd inning of work? I know that he's terrible with men on and that may play a part in it, but it sure doesn't seem like the sole reason.
Enough about the manager
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
haha
yea, if our bullpen gets it together with kahnle and warren back plus add a SP or two and we will be a very good team for a while
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
The last time the Yankees hit four home runs, scored 10+ runs and lost: 8/23/1998 a 12-10 loss - in Texas.
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bringing in Shreve. But he cant account for the rest of the staff giving up 10+ runs to one of the leagues worst offenses.
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
Thats a fair point, often Robertson is thrown into jams because of guys like Shreve failing to get outs with the lead. So these arent the easiest spots for him. Hes set high standards with past performances though and he isnt meeting them.
I think in that ballpark, with the way the series has gone, you have to try to get those last 12 outs with Robertson, Betances, Chapman only. Shreve cant see the light of day there.
Not sure what to make of CC. At some point this run hes been in will end and of course hes start to start with that balky knee. Just going to chalk this one up to a big man pitching in the Texas heat. But his next few starts are worth keeping an eye on.
...by an also ran like Texas. Will a few more pitching gems like this force Cashman's hand?
Even though the bullpen has been shaky, I would not have Robertson after Shreve, just hasn't been consistent enough to put him in that position especially with Texas bats being as hot as they where. Would have preferred to see Cole, Green or even Betances after Shreve. Last thing you want is to give up 4 runs being up 10-7?!
- Greg Bird was 2 for 5 with another HR.
- Kahnle began his come back pitching 1 inning, giving up 2 hits and a run. Hopefully, it was just knocking off the rust and not a continuation of his performance prior to his DL stint.
Some perspective is in order.
Yanks are 22-6 since their 9-9 start and they're playing .674 baseball this year.
They had also won 8 (or was it 9) series in a row while playing a tougher schedule than Boston.
Yanks will be fine. And when they get their injured players back they'll be even better.
A team lost a 10-7 lead! stop the presses!!! Boone allowed the Rangers to score those runs? He allowed Robertson to miss the strike zone and throw meatballs? Why do people blame the manager after each loss, especially in one where the players obviously fail to execute?
I bet Cora didn't take shit for trotting out the hand posing, beard-swathed closer for the 8th inning when the Yanks shellacked him?
Blame Boone if you want to, but credit him for pushing the right buttons over the last month.
That's baseball, Susan
...leading into the 2018 Season.
Everyone knew it, or should have known it.
That's why I don't understand why some BBIers think CC and Tanaka last few outings are just aberrations.
How do you reconcile that opinion with what everyone assumed BEFORE the season even got underway???
In any event, zero reason to panic with such a strong record so far. IMO, the biggest panic mistake would be for Cashman to give up on young players to secure another starter.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet
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whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet
Cole is just much more talented at this point than Tanaka and CC.
He would have def been good here, maybe not what he is in Houston but he would have gotten a ton of run support. He was the move to make. Now that we didn't, fine....they still should and I suspect will make a deadline deal
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whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet
Cole is just much more talented at this point than Tanaka and CC.
He would have def been good here, maybe not what he is in Houston but he would have gotten a ton of run support. He was the move to make. Now that we didn't, fine....they still should and I suspect will make a deadline deal
Cole is NOT more talented than Tanaka- CC, ok- but that's the Yanks #4 SP.
I REALLY don't get the people panicking over the SP- in May. The SP has generally been pretty good. They got a bad start from CC- it happens. Ironically, after the meltdowns some on this site had over Gray, he's now been pretty good of late.
Tanaka has been on and off- depends on whether he is giving up HR or not. Severino has been an ace. Montgomery is hurt, but he will be back.
The trade deadline is literally two months away- but if you listened to the "sky-is-falling" brigade, you would think it was tomorrow and the Yanks were in danger of falling out of the playoff race.
Hello, McFly, they have the second best record in baseball.
Tanaka was TERRIBLE last May- but was strong in the second half and in the playoffs. Not much to worry about there. Gray looks more like what they traded for. Severino is a true #1 SP. That gives them 3 solid SP in the playoffs- teams only need 4.
The Yanks have a lot of choices going forward. They can play their own guys (Sheffield, German, Adams, etc), they can make a big trade- or they can stay put and go with Montgomery for their #4 SP in the playoffs.
Remember that the #4 SP likely only makes 1 start in each series- and depending on off-days, might not make any.
Focus on the big picture, not your day-to-day fantasies and woes.
Now, come postseason time, we still have our Ace, and will need 2 others to step up. Tanaka will be one, and the other will emerge from the group.
In the playoffs I would absolutely go 3 man rotation , and pitch Sevy on 3 days rest and ride him . He can handle it, as long as we keep being responsible with him during the season.
I may not be remembering this well, but wasn't Pittsburgh asking for 3 of Frazier, Torres, Andujar, Sheffield, Adams or Florial as part of the Cole deal? They got less than that from Houston, but it would be hard to give up that prospect load for Cole.
Top to bottom, the pitching staff needs to pick it up a bit, that's all. Classifying every complaint as "the sky is falling" is more annoying than original complaints.
Rotation, same thing. Sale is Sale (although he's practically guaranteed to fade late in the year, it's what he's done his entire career). Porcello coming back to earth after a crazy start. Price is washed up. Pomeranz is trash. ERod is mediocre.
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they told themselves going into the season. And maybe it does work out that way, but I'm not going to lose my mind over a rough patch of pitching for a week or two in May.
I have to wonder if those people even watch baseball. The Yankees starting pitching was tops last post-season. We lost because the bats failed to execute, not the pitchers and definitely not the starting pitchers...
Exactly. The bats went silent in the post season last year. The pitching will be fine.
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and I'm not convinced he's morphed into prime Roger Clemens yet either, so I'm not losing sleep over it. But I don't think everyone's just gonna pick up where they left off last October. I'm guessing a pitcher will be acquired between now and the deadline, and Justus Sheffield will be given a look, even if it's just a bullpen role.
Agreed that adding to our SP could be a boon. But, Tanaka and Gray aren't the complete shit some on these threads would have us believe. Adding Hamels would be awesome though.
I'm not saying the Yanks shouldn't be looking for more SP- but it isn't a crisis or a playoff-dooming need.
I also get a BIG kick out of posters pointing out how great the Astros rotation is- completely forgetting that the Yanks took 2 of 3 from the Astros- in Houston- and could have won all 3 with slightly better luck.
Remember that the Yanks couldn't beat Houston at home last year- lost all 4 games in Houston during the ALCS- and now know that they can win there. The main reason the Astros took out the Yanks was that the Yanks couldn't get runners on last season. This year's team has a MUCH better OBP- and works pitch counts better. When Bird returns, it will be even better yet.
Think about it- the Yanks have the second best record in baseball with Sanchez hitting .228 (though he does have a .329 OBP), Gardner hitting .233, Didi hasn't hit a thing in May, Walker and Stanton have only begun to hit in the past couple weeks and Bird hasn't played yet.
The bullpen is also overworked because Kahnle and Warren have only been healthy enough to throw 15 and 2/3 innings combined- though Kahnle is probably back within the week and Warren a few weeks behind him.
This team isn't even hitting its stride yet. LOTS of underperformers who will eventually hit/pitch to the numbers on the back of their baseball cards. Time to relax and let the season play itself out.
Excellent point, and that is promising. Last year's offense had firepower, but didn't get much traffic on the bases. If you remember, the Astros took that same step from 2016 to 2017 - jettisoned some of the high strikeout guys (including the great Chris Carter) and added in some contact/OBP guys to grind pitching staffs down.
I know it's a lot to put on a 20-year-old, but I wonder if we would've beaten Houston last year with Gleyber in the mix. There were some scoring opportunities in those games and the bottom of the order came up a little short. There were a lot of outs down there.
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Remember that the Yanks couldn't beat Houston at home last year- lost all 4 games in Houston during the ALCS- and now know that they can win there. The main reason the Astros took out the Yanks was that the Yanks couldn't get runners on last season. This year's team has a MUCH better OBP- and works pitch counts better. When Bird returns, it will be even better yet.
Excellent point, and that is promising. Last year's offense had firepower, but didn't get much traffic on the bases. If you remember, the Astros took that same step from 2016 to 2017 - jettisoned some of the high strikeout guys (including the great Chris Carter) and added in some contact/OBP guys to grind pitching staffs down.
I know it's a lot to put on a 20-year-old, but I wonder if we would've beaten Houston last year with Gleyber in the mix. There were some scoring opportunities in those games and the bottom of the order came up a little short. There were a lot of outs down there.
We replaced Castro with Torres and Stanton.