Hopefully just a pitching slump and some relievers that have been overworked because of injuries. But its hard to see them not having to make a move for pitching at some point
Between Boone and the blind monkeys calling check swings,
It's hurt us a few times since they've been out. It is also the likely reason Boone stayed with Betances for an extra inning.
And WTF is wrong with Betances? Why is he so consistently awful in a 2nd inning of work? I know that he's terrible with men on and that may play a part in it, but it sure doesn't seem like the sole reason.
But I'm calling it like it is. HC Cora has been doing a way better job then Boone imo. Look at Cora's last to games and see how he used his bullpen. I know the Yanks bullpen was awful today, but Boone was part of the problem as well. 10-7 And you allow 4 runs?? I didn't think it was possible to make Texas look like the #1 team in MLB, but the Boone and the Yanks did that today. Smh..
But I'm calling it like it is. HC Cora has been doing a way better job then Boone imo. Look at Cora's last to games and see how he used his bullpen. I know the Yanks bullpen was awful today, but Boone was part of the problem as well. 10-7 And you allow 4 runs?? I didn't think it was possible to make Texas look like the #1 team in MLB, but the Boone and the Yanks did that today. Smh..
yeah hes been a freaking genius penciling JD and Mookie in the lineup and running Sale out there every 5th day. Please.
agree that was probably the worst loss of the season.. With the bats hot, taking a huge lead, against the 4th worst team in the league, and after losing the first game, just embarrassing..
Hell, it hasn't even been on the offense recently. It's been on the rotation and bullpen more times than not. Outside of Sevy and Chapman, everyone in the rotation and bullpen have been quite questionable recently. It's actually scary how bad they've been, but the offense has bailed them out a ton. They even scored 10 runs tonight. 10 runs not being enough to beat the lowly Rangers shows you had bad CC and the bullpen were tonight.
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
Hell, it hasn't even been on the offense recently. It's been on the rotation and bullpen more times than not. Outside of Sevy and Chapman, everyone in the rotation and bullpen have been quite questionable recently. It's actually scary how bad they've been, but the offense has bailed them out a ton. They even scored 10 runs tonight. 10 runs not being enough to beat the lowly Rangers shows you had bad CC and the bullpen were tonight.
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
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yea, if our bullpen gets it together with kahnle and warren back plus add a SP or two and we will be a very good team for a while
bringing in Shreve. But he cant account for the rest of the staff giving up 10+ runs to one of the leagues worst offenses.
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
bringing in Shreve. But he cant account for the rest of the staff giving up 10+ runs to one of the leagues worst offenses.
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
Thats a fair point, often Robertson is thrown into jams because of guys like Shreve failing to get outs with the lead. So these arent the easiest spots for him. Hes set high standards with past performances though and he isnt meeting them.
I think in that ballpark, with the way the series has gone, you have to try to get those last 12 outs with Robertson, Betances, Chapman only. Shreve cant see the light of day there.
Not sure what to make of CC. At some point this run hes been in will end and of course hes start to start with that balky knee. Just going to chalk this one up to a big man pitching in the Texas heat. But his next few starts are worth keeping an eye on.
Even though the bullpen has been shaky, I would not have Robertson after Shreve, just hasn't been consistent enough to put him in that position especially with Texas bats being as hot as they where. Would have preferred to see Cole, Green or even Betances after Shreve. Last thing you want is to give up 4 runs being up 10-7?!
Rotation is garbage aside from Sevy. Mongomery needs to get back here quick he is our second best pitcher. Cashman better trade for Hamels at the deadline because this team will not make a World Series with this pitching. and they also need Warren and Kahnle back because this bullpen is another concern. This is why I think Boston is better they have better pitching.
- Sheffield pitch 4 shutout innings (with 5 Ks) for SWB last night.
- Greg Bird was 2 for 5 with another HR.
- Kahnle began his come back pitching 1 inning, giving up 2 hits and a run. Hopefully, it was just knocking off the rust and not a continuation of his performance prior to his DL stint.
Jesus Christ, this guy is a putz on many of the Yankee threads:
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I know the Yanks bullpen was awful today, but Boone was part of the problem as well. 10-7 And you allow 4 runs?? I didn't think it was possible to make Texas look like the #1 team in MLB, but the Boone and the Yanks did that today. Smh..
A team lost a 10-7 lead! stop the presses!!! Boone allowed the Rangers to score those runs? He allowed Robertson to miss the strike zone and throw meatballs? Why do people blame the manager after each loss, especially in one where the players obviously fail to execute?
I bet Cora didn't take shit for trotting out the hand posing, beard-swathed closer for the 8th inning when the Yanks shellacked him?
what a weird series. Texas who has been struggling all season offensively, rakes like the '27 Yankees for 3 days. Seriously seems like they were stealing signs or something. They have been swinging at everything all season especially with 2 strikes, and all series they were laying off 2 strike pitches barely out of the zone. I mean Ronald Guzman? seriously? They guy probably was one of the worst hitting every day 1B all season and spends the whole series raking like '97 Tino Martinez. Oh well Susan thats baseball! Its a marathon these things happen. I despise Michael Kay but one thing he says a lot was very true visa vi having to use Schreve in the 6th last night. It may be 162 separate games, but decisions you make lead into the next game or even two. Boone decided to go with Green for 2 innings Monday, when he probably should have gone to Betances there. If he does that he could have had Green available last night to pitch the 6th, Betances the 7th and Robbie the 8th and we probably win. Oh well, no biggie just move on. Not ready to make definitive decisions about our pitching off this trip. Tanaka and CC have struggled their last 3 turns but they have a track record and I trust them to get it together.
ironically not on the strike zone but on checked swings. If they were consistent that would have been fine, but the second strike on Gary in the 9th was not as blatant as a couple of those checked swings.
Blame Boone if you want to, but credit him for pushing the right buttons over the last month.
That's why I don't understand why some BBIers think CC and Tanaka last few outings are just aberrations.
How do you reconcile that opinion with what everyone assumed BEFORE the season even got underway???
In any event, zero reason to panic with such a strong record so far. IMO, the biggest panic mistake would be for Cashman to give up on young players to secure another starter.
My only complaint besides our pitching at times is
our situational hitting by some of the young guys. Runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs and most of our young guys are coming out of their shoes trying to crush the ball instead of squaring one up and getting the ball out of the infield.
How long it will be before CC goes on the DL. The past couple of seasons, it seems whenever he goes through a terrible stretch like this he suddenly ends up on the DL. Usually the balky knee flaring up
whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
whether we should have paid more for Cole than the Pirates took from the Astros. It looks like it was Andujar holding up that deal and as great as he has been and may well continue to be, we needed Cole more.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet
Watch the replay. The umpire calls time out almost immediately. Then says HBP. Had to do with Stanton leaving the box.
Betances is a ONE inning guy, no more.
CC is trash. 7 ERs to this bum ass team...
We badly need starting pitching.
10 runs and in serious threat to lose this game. Sickening
Boone is a fucking clown with this shit. Betances isn't good after one inning yet he makes the same mistake again.
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Oh, that's right. We're talking about Yankees pitching here. Incredible.
Betances is a ONE inning guy, no more.
CC is trash. 7 ERs to this bum ass team...
We badly need starting pitching.
10 runs and in serious threat to lose this game. Sickening
We all know how you feel. We don't need your wisdom several times per game.
When will the Chasen Shreve nightmare finally end?
And WTF is wrong with Betances? Why is he so consistently awful in a 2nd inning of work? I know that he's terrible with men on and that may play a part in it, but it sure doesn't seem like the sole reason.
Enough about the manager
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
But this guy is a troll, so no reason to really respond. If you like Cora so much, go swallow his load.
haha
yea, if our bullpen gets it together with kahnle and warren back plus add a SP or two and we will be a very good team for a while
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
The last time the Yankees hit four home runs, scored 10+ runs and lost: 8/23/1998 a 12-10 loss - in Texas.
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bringing in Shreve. But he cant account for the rest of the staff giving up 10+ runs to one of the leagues worst offenses.
Enough about the manager
Sabathia had a 2.4 ERA coming into tonight. We can't expect that to hold up... gotta take the good with the bad. Robertson was awful, but I'd much rather him entirely fuck up his own inning than have to clean up someone else's mess. And how many Chasen Shreve messes are going to be handed off to someone else before the plug is pulled? The Betances thing isn't even worth wasting breath on at this point.
Thats a fair point, often Robertson is thrown into jams because of guys like Shreve failing to get outs with the lead. So these arent the easiest spots for him. Hes set high standards with past performances though and he isnt meeting them.
I think in that ballpark, with the way the series has gone, you have to try to get those last 12 outs with Robertson, Betances, Chapman only. Shreve cant see the light of day there.
Not sure what to make of CC. At some point this run hes been in will end and of course hes start to start with that balky knee. Just going to chalk this one up to a big man pitching in the Texas heat. But his next few starts are worth keeping an eye on.
...by an also ran like Texas. Will a few more pitching gems like this force Cashman's hand?
Even though the bullpen has been shaky, I would not have Robertson after Shreve, just hasn't been consistent enough to put him in that position especially with Texas bats being as hot as they where. Would have preferred to see Cole, Green or even Betances after Shreve. Last thing you want is to give up 4 runs being up 10-7?!
- Greg Bird was 2 for 5 with another HR.
- Kahnle began his come back pitching 1 inning, giving up 2 hits and a run. Hopefully, it was just knocking off the rust and not a continuation of his performance prior to his DL stint.
Some perspective is in order.
Yanks are 22-6 since their 9-9 start and they're playing .674 baseball this year.
They had also won 8 (or was it 9) series in a row while playing a tougher schedule than Boston.
Yanks will be fine. And when they get their injured players back they'll be even better.
A team lost a 10-7 lead! stop the presses!!! Boone allowed the Rangers to score those runs? He allowed Robertson to miss the strike zone and throw meatballs? Why do people blame the manager after each loss, especially in one where the players obviously fail to execute?
I bet Cora didn't take shit for trotting out the hand posing, beard-swathed closer for the 8th inning when the Yanks shellacked him?
Blame Boone if you want to, but credit him for pushing the right buttons over the last month.
That's baseball, Susan
...leading into the 2018 Season.
Everyone knew it, or should have known it.
That's why I don't understand why some BBIers think CC and Tanaka last few outings are just aberrations.
How do you reconcile that opinion with what everyone assumed BEFORE the season even got underway???
In any event, zero reason to panic with such a strong record so far. IMO, the biggest panic mistake would be for Cashman to give up on young players to secure another starter.
The problem is, we cant assume that Cole would be anywhere near as good as hes been in Houston. In fact, its much safer to assume that he wouldnt be anywhere close. Houston is the place with the magic potion apparently. The place where every random pitcher on the planet can go and turn into a Hall of Famer overnight. Seeing these pitching performances lately, the Yankees obviously havent gotten the patent to this miracle cure yet