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NFT: Yankee News 5/24: Bird , Kahnle to be activated

Ron from Ninerland : 5/24/2018 7:05 pm
Kahnle will activated Friday, Bird on Saturday, Warren is a ways off.
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Comments on Torres  
Ace718 : 5/24/2018 7:24 pm : link
Boone said he flirted with the idea of moving Torres up the order yesterday. There have been internal discussions about moving him up but he decided against it so he doesn't mess up his hot streak. He's not gonna fix what isn't broken for now and let Torres rake at 9.
Turns out we're not seeing Ohtani on Sunday.  
bceagle05 : 5/24/2018 7:37 pm : link
Sciosca's pushing him back for "workload maintenance."
RE: Turns out we're not seeing Ohtani on Sunday.  
BigBlueShock : 5/24/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 13974491 bceagle05 said:
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Sciosca's pushing him back for "workload maintenance."

It’s called “Yankee flu”. David Price had the same thing
Conspiracy theorists would say  
bceagle05 : 5/24/2018 7:46 pm : link
they want a potential Wild Card Game to be the first time we see him. But the Sox have seen him already so they already blew that opportunity.
obviously I want the Yankees to win every game  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/24/2018 7:47 pm : link
but I am disappointed that we are again missing Otani. He is one of the best baseball stories in a long time and I want to see us face him.
Jim Leyritz  
Marty866b : 5/24/2018 7:56 pm : link
Read that article on Leyritz and he is absolutely right. Dion James is at Old Timers Day and the Yankees say Leyritz didn't do enough to get invited? Are they serious?
Scott Kamieniecki will be there too.  
bceagle05 : 5/24/2018 8:01 pm : link
Another legend.
RE: Jim Leyritz  
Matt in SGS : 5/24/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13974499 Marty866b said:
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Read that article on Leyritz and he is absolutely right. Dion James is at Old Timers Day and the Yankees say Leyritz didn't do enough to get invited? Are they serious?


Dion James didn't kill anyone either in what was essentially a double drunk driving collision that killed a mother of two.
RE: Conspiracy theorists would say  
BigBlueShock : 5/24/2018 8:04 pm : link
In comment 13974496 bceagle05 said:
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they want a potential Wild Card Game to be the first time we see him. But the Sox have seen him already so they already blew that opportunity.

Michael Kay was talking about this today. The ONLY explanation they could come up with was either they don’t want to subject Ohtani to that environment in Yankee Stadium just yet or that the Angels don’t want the Yankees to see Ohtani in case they play in the wild card game. If the latter is the case, that is quite an arrogant move by them. I hope the Angels lose Sunday night and this miss out on the Wild Card by 1 game. Thinking that far ahead for such an average team is laughable
Leyritz is kind of an asshole with a checkered past  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2018 8:05 pm : link
I'm guessing that's more of the real reason.
I have no problem with them blackballing Leyritz  
bceagle05 : 5/24/2018 8:07 pm : link
but he has been back at the Stadium since that incident. Bit of a mixed message. His quote about continuing to represent the organization well was ridiculous though.
In fact  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2018 8:09 pm : link
I remember Homer Bush being at Old Timers Day, so yeah, it's not because he wasn't significant enough in Yankee history, regardless of what they told him.
Homer's back this year!  
bceagle05 : 5/24/2018 8:11 pm : link
I saw the list before. Andy's coming back for the first time. So is Swisher, and I think Boone will at least get announced.
Matt in SGS  
Marty866b : 5/24/2018 8:22 pm : link
The accident involving Leyritz was a few miles from where I live. I believe the women killed was intoxicated just like Leyritz. I am not making excuses for him as he has a reputation of being an asshole but if the Yankees excuse for not inviting him is what Leyritz claims, it is absurd.
Very happy Kahnle is back tomorrow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2018 8:28 pm : link
It sure has been long enough and he will add some length to our bullpen, which it desperately needs. I heard Boone on with Francesa this afternoon, and he says that Warren will be back in 10-14 days.
Ohtani  
Percy : 5/24/2018 9:05 pm : link
Please remind me whatever happened to the Yankees' interest in getting this guy for themselves.
RE: Ohtani  
Stu11 : 5/24/2018 9:12 pm : link
In comment 13974541 Percy said:
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Please remind me whatever happened to the Yankees' interest in getting this guy for themselves.

Yanks were very interested. He ruled them out very early in the process, probably just wanted the west coast.
Red Sox are getting crushed by the Rays, 7-0.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2018 9:20 pm : link
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Boston won a challenge, so it's back to 6.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2018 9:40 pm : link
They scored a run, so make it 6-1 Rays in the 8th inning. Them losing tonight would be fantastic. What a fun season this has been.
I wonder if ESPN will try to flex their muscle with the Angels  
Giantsfan79 : 5/24/2018 9:42 pm : link
Ohtani vs Tanaka was going to make them huge money in Japan. And it's not like they are flush with cash right now.
RE: I wonder if ESPN will try to flex their muscle with the Angels  
BigBlueShock : 5/24/2018 9:56 pm : link
In comment 13974585 Giantsfan79 said:
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Ohtani vs Tanaka was going to make them huge money in Japan. And it's not like they are flush with cash right now.

They aren’t playing the ESPN Sunday night game. Why would ESPN care?
Boston loses!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2018 10:15 pm : link
Man, even when the Yankees don't play, they win.

:)
Thank goodness Rays  
prdave73 : 5/24/2018 10:18 pm : link
Took out Boston today, that helps. Texas bats I see cooled down, 1-6 Duffy put in work so far.. hmm..
RE: RE: I wonder if ESPN will try to flex their muscle with the Angels  
Giantsfan79 : 5/24/2018 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13974600 BigBlueShock said:
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Ohtani vs Tanaka was going to make them huge money in Japan. And it's not like they are flush with cash right now.


They aren’t playing the ESPN Sunday night game. Why would ESPN care?


My bad - for some reason I thought the Yankees were on Sunday night this week. Bowing out now.
RE: Thank goodness Rays  
BigBlueShock : 5/24/2018 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13974615 prdave73 said:
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Took out Boston today, that helps. Texas bats I see cooled down, 1-6 Duffy put in work so far.. hmm..

I’m surprised your hero Cora allowed that to happen? What was he thinking? He gave up that many runs to the damed Rays? Ouch. And that awesome Sox pitching staff too? Yikes. Cora should be ashamed of himself. No way he should ever lose a game with 5 CY Young candidates taking the mound every night, Amirite?

I’m so disappointed in Cora.
Who were sent down  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2018 10:31 pm : link
for Bird and Kahnle?
I'll try to redeem myself - and don't' want to start a new thread  
Giantsfan79 : 5/24/2018 10:35 pm : link
the link is twitter video from last years 1st round draft pick Clarke Schmidt throwing a simulated game two days ago. Not there yet but did make some pretty good pitches.

Schmidt
Justus Sheffield
Albert Abreu
Freicer Perez
Luis Medina
Jorge Guzman

Wow the Yankees have a nice stable of starting pitching prospects, and an upcoming draft to get even richer.
Don't sleep on Clarke Schmidt - ( New Window )
RE: Who were sent down  
Giantsfan79 : 5/24/2018 10:43 pm : link
In comment 13974629 Del Shofner said:
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for Bird and Kahnle?


supposedly Austin is going down for Bird. The Yankees are scheduled to face 3 LHP in the next 14 days and here are Austin's splits this season

vs. RHP: .200/.250/.467 (89 wRC+) with 4.7 BB% and 43.8 K%
vs. LHP: .293/.362/.634 (163 wRC+) with 8.5 BB% and 27.7 K%
Guzman was traded for Stanton.  
Jim in Hoboken : 5/24/2018 11:00 pm : link
Dude averages like 100mph on his fastball.
Great pitching prospects notwithstanding...  
manh george : 5/25/2018 1:09 am : link
the Yankees are very likely going to need to trade for a starter this year. If Drury gets healthy, we have Drury vs. Andujar to consider, plus Frazier. Who else? Maybe one of the pitching prospects goes as part of a deal for current talent.
RE: Great pitching prospects notwithstanding...  
rich in DC : 5/25/2018 1:40 am : link
In comment 13974734 manh george said:
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the Yankees are very likely going to need to trade for a starter this year. If Drury gets healthy, we have Drury vs. Andujar to consider, plus Frazier. Who else? Maybe one of the pitching prospects goes as part of a deal for current talent.


No, it is not likely that they need to trade for a SP. Now, they might decide to do so if the right deal comes along, but they have their own SP who are just about ready- Sheffield, Adams, etc.

I fail to understand the thinking that the Yanks should trade away their best depth for a want, not a need. Just because the Yanks go 5-5 over a 10 game period is no reason to trade the farm.
RE: I'll try to redeem myself - and don't' want to start a new thread  
rich in DC : 5/25/2018 1:48 am : link
In comment 13974636 Giantsfan79 said:
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the link is twitter video from last years 1st round draft pick Clarke Schmidt throwing a simulated game two days ago. Not there yet but did make some pretty good pitches.

Schmidt
Justus Sheffield
Albert Abreu
Freicer Perez
Luis Medina
Jorge Guzman

Wow the Yankees have a nice stable of starting pitching prospects, and an upcoming draft to get even richer. Don't sleep on Clarke Schmidt - ( New Window )


Don't forget about some new guys racing through the system- Loaisiga and Stephan. Both high end stuff guys who can be legitimate ML SP. Both already in AA. Schmidt can be an option in 2019, assuming his rehab finishes well and the stuff he showed in college fully returns.

Medina, Perez and Abreu are a couple years away- and are longer shots.

Just FYI- don't overlook Josh Rogers in AAA- a LHP who doesn't have overpowering stuff, but is getting better each year- and is only 23. He could be a nice back of the rotation or long man option. Gets a lot of grounders and doesn't walk a lot of guys. Think of him as a more efficient version of Caleb Smith who they had last year and traded to the Marlins (and is doing rather well this year).
I think  
mattyblue : 5/25/2018 1:57 am : link
trading Frazier would be a colossal mistake for the Yankees. I don’t see anyone being available that is gonna make it worth it long term.
I'm not trading the Farm based upon a 5-5 spell.  
manh george : 5/25/2018 3:09 am : link
I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.

Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
If Adams can channel last week's start and not this week's...  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2018 8:32 am : link
he could be an option. Sheffield should be there later in the year. Rogers is a possibility.
RE: RE: Ohtani  
Beer Man : 5/25/2018 9:17 am : link
In comment 13974547 Stu11 said:
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Please remind me whatever happened to the Yankees' interest in getting this guy for themselves.


Yanks were very interested. He ruled them out very early in the process, probably just wanted the west coast.
He basically told the Yankees he wasn't interested in coming to NY, and the conversation never went beyond that.
RE: I'm not trading the Farm based upon a 5-5 spell.  
Beer Man : 5/25/2018 9:20 am : link
In comment 13974741 manh george said:
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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.

Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.
Ultimately, I just don't know that a pitcher worth trading for  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2018 9:25 am : link
will be available. Obviously, a lot can change from now to July 31. A team that is hanging in there now might have collapsed by then, something like that. At this point, however, there just aren't many obvious candidates who are a)good enough to bother b)likely to be shopped.
Also, regarding Otani  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2018 9:27 am : link
The rumor was he didn't want to go to a team that had an established Japanese player already. He wanted to be a trailblazer, both as a 2 way player and as a team's first Japanese star. If true, that didn't help the Yankees either.
RE: RE: I'm not trading the Farm based upon a 5-5 spell.  
BigBlueShock : 5/25/2018 9:44 am : link
In comment 13974874 Beer Man said:
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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.

Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.

Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.

So that trade already didn’t work? Huh. I’m not a Sonny Gray fan by any means but he’s pitched pretty damned good in three of his last 4 outings. What if this is his turn around point? What if this team wins a WS with Gray being a big part of it? NY fans are incredibly impatient. Players go through slumps. It happens.

I also think the prospect haul that they gave up is being a bit overrated here. Mateo has been absolutely dreadful. Who knows how Kaprelian comes back from TJ and Rutherford is what he is. He’s likely a guy that won’t hit for a ton of power and may not have the on base skills to ever become an everyday player in the majors. And the Yankees will not have any room for him in the distant future anyways. Who knows what the long term outcome will be with this deal but I’d say it’s a bit early to declare it a bad trade. And Cashman has certainly earned the benefit of doubt lately, so I’ll trust him that he got it right. We will see.
RE: I'm not trading the Farm based upon a 5-5 spell.  
rich in DC : 5/25/2018 9:51 am : link
In comment 13974741 manh george said:
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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.

Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.


I pointed out the other day that Tanaka put up an 8.48 ERA and was TERRIBLE in May last year. At the same time, he was outstanding down the stretch and the Yanks best playoff pitcher. Don't read too much into a small sample size. If anyone tried to draw conclusions about Tanaka around Memorial Day last year, they would almost certainly have been wrong. They are now too.

The trouble with Tanaka's FB is that it is straight- and low to mid 90's. You don't get away with that in MLB. YES recently had an in-game stat that Tanaka throws fewer FB than any other SP- mainly because hitters kill it. If you check when he gives up HR, it is generally on a FB. At the same time, he has to use it as a "show me" pitch to keep hitters honest. In short, there is nothing new or worrisome about his 2018 FB- it is what it has always been- probably his least useful pitch.

Tanaka will be fine- he has a long track record of overcoming adverse stretches- veteran SP tend to figure things out after a while.

Everyone is right to worry about CC over a full season- but that is irrelevant to the post-season. The Yanks will simply start their most effective 4th SP one time in a series, if that. Severino, Gray and Tanaka are the big three. After that, you go with CC, Montgomery or maybe a young guy like Sheffield, Adams or Rogers- they will be pulled at the first sign of trouble for a pen game anyway.

One factor that has hurt the SP overall early in the season is the loss of Warren. He was their best "long man"- the guy who could take the ball and go 3-4 innings if needed. That forced Boone to leave SP in longer than he wanted to prevent burning out the pen.

Don't be surprised if the Yanks shift German into that long role going forward- and possibly Rogers too. It will help the SP, as they can be pulled when trouble starts instead of letting things get out of hand like in Texas the other night.
RAB had a piece on Tanaka yesterday  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2018 9:56 am : link
Basically, hitters have adjusted to the no-fastballs approach and are laying off the splitter. He's not getting hitters to chase like he had been in the second half last season - he actually had the highest chase rate in the majors. So he's falling behind in counts and walking a lot of batters, as well as having to groove pitches to avoid walks which are being clobbered. So now he has to adjust to the adjustments.
RE: RE: RE: I'm not trading the Farm based upon a 5-5 spell.  
Beer Man : 5/25/2018 10:05 am : link
In comment 13974919 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13974741 manh george said:


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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.

Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.

Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.


So that trade already didn’t work? Huh. I’m not a Sonny Gray fan by any means but he’s pitched pretty damned good in three of his last 4 outings. What if this is his turn around point? What if this team wins a WS with Gray being a big part of it? NY fans are incredibly impatient. Players go through slumps. It happens.

I also think the prospect haul that they gave up is being a bit overrated here. Mateo has been absolutely dreadful. Who knows how Kaprelian comes back from TJ and Rutherford is what he is. He’s likely a guy that won’t hit for a ton of power and may not have the on base skills to ever become an everyday player in the majors. And the Yankees will not have any room for him in the distant future anyways. Who knows what the long term outcome will be with this deal but I’d say it’s a bit early to declare it a bad trade. And Cashman has certainly earned the benefit of doubt lately, so I’ll trust him that he got it right. We will see.
The Yankees gave up three high-end prospects to get a guy (Gray) who was suppose to be a top-end of the rotation guy (1 or 2). Since becoming a Yank last year, at best he has been highly inconsistent and has looked more like a back of the rotation guy than a front end. Hopefully, he can become the pitcher we all thought we were getting, but as of right now he looks to be another talented pitcher that comes to NY and turns into a major head case (ala, A.J. Burnett, Kenny Rogers, Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Carl Pavano, etc.)
Gray has been disappointing  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2018 10:16 am : link
No doubt about it. I expected to see the excellent pitcher he was in Oakland, but we've only seen that guy sporadically.

Part of the problem could be the stadium. In 11 career starts in YS, he's given up 13 homers in 60 IP for an ERA of 5.79.
Another kid in the minors that may bring some relief  
Beer Man : 5/25/2018 10:26 am : link
is Erik Swanson. There have been a couple recent articles on him, as he has been rocketing through the minors this year, similar to what Chance Adams did in 2016 & 2017.
Erik Swanson - ( New Window )
Domingo Acevedo might have the leg up on Swanson  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2018 10:31 am : link
Even though Swanson is a level higher, just because Acevedo is on the 40 man and Swanson isn't.
Domingo Acevedo could be a stud  
Beer Man : 5/25/2018 10:42 am : link
His fastball has reached 103mph and he has a plus changeup, but his breaking ball is still a WIP and he has control issues. The Yanks demoted him in March from AAA-SWB to AA-Trenton. Also, he just recently came off the DL due to a concussion and blisters on his throwing hand. This is a guy that could be very special if he can get it all together. Hopefully he doesn't become another Dellin Betances (sp.?)
RE: Domingo Acevedo could be a stud  
rich in DC : 5/25/2018 10:47 am : link
In comment 13975009 Beer Man said:
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His fastball has reached 103mph and he has a plus changeup, but his breaking ball is still a WIP and he has control issues. The Yanks demoted him in March from AAA-SWB to AA-Trenton. Also, he just recently came off the DL due to a concussion and blisters on his throwing hand. This is a guy that could be very special if he can get it all together. Hopefully he doesn't become another Dellin Betances (sp.?)


Actually, Betances is the guy I would comp him on.

While the Yanks are going to give him every opportunity to be a SP- and they should- I think that 2 years from now, he will be a key back of the bullpen piece, if not a closer if Chapman leaves in FA.
Acevedo has been a better starter than Betances was in MiLB though  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2018 10:51 am : link
A bit up and down performance-wise, but on the whole rather good.
Acevedo has blister issues...  
Dunedin81 : 5/25/2018 10:57 am : link
they recur, ala Rich Hill. Acevedo is unlike Betances in that he has good command and decent control, especially for a big guy. He's also unlike Betances in that he doesn't have a put-away pitch. Major League hitters can cue up for 103 if they don't fear anything else you throw. So if the secondaries come along, Acevedo could be special. If not, back-end guy.
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