Boone said he flirted with the idea of moving Torres up the order yesterday. There have been internal discussions about moving him up but he decided against it so he doesn't mess up his hot streak. He's not gonna fix what isn't broken for now and let Torres rake at 9.
Read that article on Leyritz and he is absolutely right. Dion James is at Old Timers Day and the Yankees say Leyritz didn't do enough to get invited? Are they serious?
Read that article on Leyritz and he is absolutely right. Dion James is at Old Timers Day and the Yankees say Leyritz didn't do enough to get invited? Are they serious?
Dion James didn't kill anyone either in what was essentially a double drunk driving collision that killed a mother of two.
they want a potential Wild Card Game to be the first time we see him. But the Sox have seen him already so they already blew that opportunity.
Michael Kay was talking about this today. The ONLY explanation they could come up with was either they don’t want to subject Ohtani to that environment in Yankee Stadium just yet or that the Angels don’t want the Yankees to see Ohtani in case they play in the wild card game. If the latter is the case, that is quite an arrogant move by them. I hope the Angels lose Sunday night and this miss out on the Wild Card by 1 game. Thinking that far ahead for such an average team is laughable
Leyritz is kind of an asshole with a checkered past Â
but he has been back at the Stadium since that incident. Bit of a mixed message. His quote about continuing to represent the organization well was ridiculous though.
I remember Homer Bush being at Old Timers Day, so yeah, it's not because he wasn't significant enough in Yankee history, regardless of what they told him.
The accident involving Leyritz was a few miles from where I live. I believe the women killed was intoxicated just like Leyritz. I am not making excuses for him as he has a reputation of being an asshole but if the Yankees excuse for not inviting him is what Leyritz claims, it is absurd.
It sure has been long enough and he will add some length to our bullpen, which it desperately needs. I heard Boone on with Francesa this afternoon, and he says that Warren will be back in 10-14 days.
Took out Boston today, that helps. Texas bats I see cooled down, 1-6 Duffy put in work so far.. hmm..
I’m surprised your hero Cora allowed that to happen? What was he thinking? He gave up that many runs to the damed Rays? Ouch. And that awesome Sox pitching staff too? Yikes. Cora should be ashamed of himself. No way he should ever lose a game with 5 CY Young candidates taking the mound every night, Amirite?
the link is twitter video from last years 1st round draft pick Clarke Schmidt throwing a simulated game two days ago. Not there yet but did make some pretty good pitches.
Schmidt
Justus Sheffield
Albert Abreu
Freicer Perez
Luis Medina
Jorge Guzman
the Yankees are very likely going to need to trade for a starter this year. If Drury gets healthy, we have Drury vs. Andujar to consider, plus Frazier. Who else? Maybe one of the pitching prospects goes as part of a deal for current talent.
the Yankees are very likely going to need to trade for a starter this year. If Drury gets healthy, we have Drury vs. Andujar to consider, plus Frazier. Who else? Maybe one of the pitching prospects goes as part of a deal for current talent.
No, it is not likely that they need to trade for a SP. Now, they might decide to do so if the right deal comes along, but they have their own SP who are just about ready- Sheffield, Adams, etc.
I fail to understand the thinking that the Yanks should trade away their best depth for a want, not a need. Just because the Yanks go 5-5 over a 10 game period is no reason to trade the farm.
RE: I'll try to redeem myself - and don't' want to start a new thread Â
the link is twitter video from last years 1st round draft pick Clarke Schmidt throwing a simulated game two days ago. Not there yet but did make some pretty good pitches.
Schmidt
Justus Sheffield
Albert Abreu
Freicer Perez
Luis Medina
Jorge Guzman
Wow the Yankees have a nice stable of starting pitching prospects, and an upcoming draft to get even richer. Don't sleep on Clarke Schmidt - ( New Window )
Don't forget about some new guys racing through the system- Loaisiga and Stephan. Both high end stuff guys who can be legitimate ML SP. Both already in AA. Schmidt can be an option in 2019, assuming his rehab finishes well and the stuff he showed in college fully returns.
Medina, Perez and Abreu are a couple years away- and are longer shots.
Just FYI- don't overlook Josh Rogers in AAA- a LHP who doesn't have overpowering stuff, but is getting better each year- and is only 23. He could be a nice back of the rotation or long man option. Gets a lot of grounders and doesn't walk a lot of guys. Think of him as a more efficient version of Caleb Smith who they had last year and traded to the Marlins (and is doing rather well this year).
I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
If Adams can channel last week's start and not this week's... Â
I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.
Ultimately, I just don't know that a pitcher worth trading for Â
will be available. Obviously, a lot can change from now to July 31. A team that is hanging in there now might have collapsed by then, something like that. At this point, however, there just aren't many obvious candidates who are a)good enough to bother b)likely to be shopped.
The rumor was he didn't want to go to a team that had an established Japanese player already. He wanted to be a trailblazer, both as a 2 way player and as a team's first Japanese star. If true, that didn't help the Yankees either.
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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.
So that trade already didn’t work? Huh. I’m not a Sonny Gray fan by any means but he’s pitched pretty damned good in three of his last 4 outings. What if this is his turn around point? What if this team wins a WS with Gray being a big part of it? NY fans are incredibly impatient. Players go through slumps. It happens.
I also think the prospect haul that they gave up is being a bit overrated here. Mateo has been absolutely dreadful. Who knows how Kaprelian comes back from TJ and Rutherford is what he is. He’s likely a guy that won’t hit for a ton of power and may not have the on base skills to ever become an everyday player in the majors. And the Yankees will not have any room for him in the distant future anyways. Who knows what the long term outcome will be with this deal but I’d say it’s a bit early to declare it a bad trade. And Cashman has certainly earned the benefit of doubt lately, so I’ll trust him that he got it right. We will see.
RE: I'm not trading the Farm based upon a 5-5 spell. Â
I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
I pointed out the other day that Tanaka put up an 8.48 ERA and was TERRIBLE in May last year. At the same time, he was outstanding down the stretch and the Yanks best playoff pitcher. Don't read too much into a small sample size. If anyone tried to draw conclusions about Tanaka around Memorial Day last year, they would almost certainly have been wrong. They are now too.
The trouble with Tanaka's FB is that it is straight- and low to mid 90's. You don't get away with that in MLB. YES recently had an in-game stat that Tanaka throws fewer FB than any other SP- mainly because hitters kill it. If you check when he gives up HR, it is generally on a FB. At the same time, he has to use it as a "show me" pitch to keep hitters honest. In short, there is nothing new or worrisome about his 2018 FB- it is what it has always been- probably his least useful pitch.
Tanaka will be fine- he has a long track record of overcoming adverse stretches- veteran SP tend to figure things out after a while.
Everyone is right to worry about CC over a full season- but that is irrelevant to the post-season. The Yanks will simply start their most effective 4th SP one time in a series, if that. Severino, Gray and Tanaka are the big three. After that, you go with CC, Montgomery or maybe a young guy like Sheffield, Adams or Rogers- they will be pulled at the first sign of trouble for a pen game anyway.
One factor that has hurt the SP overall early in the season is the loss of Warren. He was their best "long man"- the guy who could take the ball and go 3-4 innings if needed. That forced Boone to leave SP in longer than he wanted to prevent burning out the pen.
Don't be surprised if the Yanks shift German into that long role going forward- and possibly Rogers too. It will help the SP, as they can be pulled when trouble starts instead of letting things get out of hand like in Texas the other night.
Basically, hitters have adjusted to the no-fastballs approach and are laying off the splitter. He's not getting hitters to chase like he had been in the second half last season - he actually had the highest chase rate in the majors. So he's falling behind in counts and walking a lot of batters, as well as having to groove pitches to avoid walks which are being clobbered. So now he has to adjust to the adjustments.
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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.
So that trade already didn’t work? Huh. I’m not a Sonny Gray fan by any means but he’s pitched pretty damned good in three of his last 4 outings. What if this is his turn around point? What if this team wins a WS with Gray being a big part of it? NY fans are incredibly impatient. Players go through slumps. It happens.
I also think the prospect haul that they gave up is being a bit overrated here. Mateo has been absolutely dreadful. Who knows how Kaprelian comes back from TJ and Rutherford is what he is. He’s likely a guy that won’t hit for a ton of power and may not have the on base skills to ever become an everyday player in the majors. And the Yankees will not have any room for him in the distant future anyways. Who knows what the long term outcome will be with this deal but I’d say it’s a bit early to declare it a bad trade. And Cashman has certainly earned the benefit of doubt lately, so I’ll trust him that he got it right. We will see.
The Yankees gave up three high-end prospects to get a guy (Gray) who was suppose to be a top-end of the rotation guy (1 or 2). Since becoming a Yank last year, at best he has been highly inconsistent and has looked more like a back of the rotation guy than a front end. Hopefully, he can become the pitcher we all thought we were getting, but as of right now he looks to be another talented pitcher that comes to NY and turns into a major head case (ala, A.J. Burnett, Kenny Rogers, Kevin Brown, Randy Johnson, Carl Pavano, etc.)
is Erik Swanson. There have been a couple recent articles on him, as he has been rocketing through the minors this year, similar to what Chance Adams did in 2016 & 2017. Erik Swanson - ( New Window )
Domingo Acevedo might have the leg up on Swanson Â
His fastball has reached 103mph and he has a plus changeup, but his breaking ball is still a WIP and he has control issues. The Yanks demoted him in March from AAA-SWB to AA-Trenton. Also, he just recently came off the DL due to a concussion and blisters on his throwing hand. This is a guy that could be very special if he can get it all together. Hopefully he doesn't become another Dellin Betances (sp.?)
His fastball has reached 103mph and he has a plus changeup, but his breaking ball is still a WIP and he has control issues. The Yanks demoted him in March from AAA-SWB to AA-Trenton. Also, he just recently came off the DL due to a concussion and blisters on his throwing hand. This is a guy that could be very special if he can get it all together. Hopefully he doesn't become another Dellin Betances (sp.?)
Actually, Betances is the guy I would comp him on.
While the Yanks are going to give him every opportunity to be a SP- and they should- I think that 2 years from now, he will be a key back of the bullpen piece, if not a closer if Chapman leaves in FA.
Acevedo has been a better starter than Betances was in MiLB though Â
they recur, ala Rich Hill. Acevedo is unlike Betances in that he has good command and decent control, especially for a big guy. He's also unlike Betances in that he doesn't have a put-away pitch. Major League hitters can cue up for 103 if they don't fear anything else you throw. So if the secondaries come along, Acevedo could be special. If not, back-end guy.
It’s called “Yankee flu”. David Price had the same thing
Dion James didn't kill anyone either in what was essentially a double drunk driving collision that killed a mother of two.
Michael Kay was talking about this today. The ONLY explanation they could come up with was either they don’t want to subject Ohtani to that environment in Yankee Stadium just yet or that the Angels don’t want the Yankees to see Ohtani in case they play in the wild card game. If the latter is the case, that is quite an arrogant move by them. I hope the Angels lose Sunday night and this miss out on the Wild Card by 1 game. Thinking that far ahead for such an average team is laughable
Yanks were very interested. He ruled them out very early in the process, probably just wanted the west coast.
They aren’t playing the ESPN Sunday night game. Why would ESPN care?
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They aren’t playing the ESPN Sunday night game. Why would ESPN care?
My bad - for some reason I thought the Yankees were on Sunday night this week. Bowing out now.
I’m surprised your hero Cora allowed that to happen? What was he thinking? He gave up that many runs to the damed Rays? Ouch. And that awesome Sox pitching staff too? Yikes. Cora should be ashamed of himself. No way he should ever lose a game with 5 CY Young candidates taking the mound every night, Amirite?
I’m so disappointed in Cora.
Schmidt
Justus Sheffield
Albert Abreu
Freicer Perez
Luis Medina
Jorge Guzman
Wow the Yankees have a nice stable of starting pitching prospects, and an upcoming draft to get even richer.
Don't sleep on Clarke Schmidt - ( New Window )
supposedly Austin is going down for Bird. The Yankees are scheduled to face 3 LHP in the next 14 days and here are Austin's splits this season
vs. RHP: .200/.250/.467 (89 wRC+) with 4.7 BB% and 43.8 K%
vs. LHP: .293/.362/.634 (163 wRC+) with 8.5 BB% and 27.7 K%
No, it is not likely that they need to trade for a SP. Now, they might decide to do so if the right deal comes along, but they have their own SP who are just about ready- Sheffield, Adams, etc.
I fail to understand the thinking that the Yanks should trade away their best depth for a want, not a need. Just because the Yanks go 5-5 over a 10 game period is no reason to trade the farm.
Schmidt
Justus Sheffield
Albert Abreu
Freicer Perez
Luis Medina
Jorge Guzman
Wow the Yankees have a nice stable of starting pitching prospects, and an upcoming draft to get even richer. Don't sleep on Clarke Schmidt - ( New Window )
Don't forget about some new guys racing through the system- Loaisiga and Stephan. Both high end stuff guys who can be legitimate ML SP. Both already in AA. Schmidt can be an option in 2019, assuming his rehab finishes well and the stuff he showed in college fully returns.
Medina, Perez and Abreu are a couple years away- and are longer shots.
Just FYI- don't overlook Josh Rogers in AAA- a LHP who doesn't have overpowering stuff, but is getting better each year- and is only 23. He could be a nice back of the rotation or long man option. Gets a lot of grounders and doesn't walk a lot of guys. Think of him as a more efficient version of Caleb Smith who they had last year and traded to the Marlins (and is doing rather well this year).
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
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Please remind me whatever happened to the Yankees' interest in getting this guy for themselves.
Yanks were very interested. He ruled them out very early in the process, probably just wanted the west coast.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.
So that trade already didn’t work? Huh. I’m not a Sonny Gray fan by any means but he’s pitched pretty damned good in three of his last 4 outings. What if this is his turn around point? What if this team wins a WS with Gray being a big part of it? NY fans are incredibly impatient. Players go through slumps. It happens.
I also think the prospect haul that they gave up is being a bit overrated here. Mateo has been absolutely dreadful. Who knows how Kaprelian comes back from TJ and Rutherford is what he is. He’s likely a guy that won’t hit for a ton of power and may not have the on base skills to ever become an everyday player in the majors. And the Yankees will not have any room for him in the distant future anyways. Who knows what the long term outcome will be with this deal but I’d say it’s a bit early to declare it a bad trade. And Cashman has certainly earned the benefit of doubt lately, so I’ll trust him that he got it right. We will see.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
I pointed out the other day that Tanaka put up an 8.48 ERA and was TERRIBLE in May last year. At the same time, he was outstanding down the stretch and the Yanks best playoff pitcher. Don't read too much into a small sample size. If anyone tried to draw conclusions about Tanaka around Memorial Day last year, they would almost certainly have been wrong. They are now too.
The trouble with Tanaka's FB is that it is straight- and low to mid 90's. You don't get away with that in MLB. YES recently had an in-game stat that Tanaka throws fewer FB than any other SP- mainly because hitters kill it. If you check when he gives up HR, it is generally on a FB. At the same time, he has to use it as a "show me" pitch to keep hitters honest. In short, there is nothing new or worrisome about his 2018 FB- it is what it has always been- probably his least useful pitch.
Tanaka will be fine- he has a long track record of overcoming adverse stretches- veteran SP tend to figure things out after a while.
Everyone is right to worry about CC over a full season- but that is irrelevant to the post-season. The Yanks will simply start their most effective 4th SP one time in a series, if that. Severino, Gray and Tanaka are the big three. After that, you go with CC, Montgomery or maybe a young guy like Sheffield, Adams or Rogers- they will be pulled at the first sign of trouble for a pen game anyway.
One factor that has hurt the SP overall early in the season is the loss of Warren. He was their best "long man"- the guy who could take the ball and go 3-4 innings if needed. That forced Boone to leave SP in longer than he wanted to prevent burning out the pen.
Don't be surprised if the Yanks shift German into that long role going forward- and possibly Rogers too. It will help the SP, as they can be pulled when trouble starts instead of letting things get out of hand like in Texas the other night.
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I am concerned regarding the outlook going into the playoffs, and I assume the Yankees will be there. After Severno, I am hopeful that Gray maintains his better performance, and that Montgomery gets back. But, Tanaka has a 4.95 ERA on merit, and I worry a lot about CC lasting the full season. So, a #4 or so SP may end up a need, not a want.
Rich, who would you be comfortable with as the #4 starter if Tanaka really is shot and CC fades? Is there a AAA pitcher who can step in this year? The worry on Tanaka is that his fastball doesn't have much life, and it isn't clear why there would be a bounce back.
Plus these trades don't always work. Look at the prospect talent given up for Sony Gray.
So that trade already didn’t work? Huh. I’m not a Sonny Gray fan by any means but he’s pitched pretty damned good in three of his last 4 outings. What if this is his turn around point? What if this team wins a WS with Gray being a big part of it? NY fans are incredibly impatient. Players go through slumps. It happens.
I also think the prospect haul that they gave up is being a bit overrated here. Mateo has been absolutely dreadful. Who knows how Kaprelian comes back from TJ and Rutherford is what he is. He’s likely a guy that won’t hit for a ton of power and may not have the on base skills to ever become an everyday player in the majors. And the Yankees will not have any room for him in the distant future anyways. Who knows what the long term outcome will be with this deal but I’d say it’s a bit early to declare it a bad trade. And Cashman has certainly earned the benefit of doubt lately, so I’ll trust him that he got it right. We will see.
Part of the problem could be the stadium. In 11 career starts in YS, he's given up 13 homers in 60 IP for an ERA of 5.79.
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Actually, Betances is the guy I would comp him on.
While the Yanks are going to give him every opportunity to be a SP- and they should- I think that 2 years from now, he will be a key back of the bullpen piece, if not a closer if Chapman leaves in FA.