He of the .254/.320/.445 career triple slash over nine seasons who is currently hitting .311/.390/.612. I'm sure he'll keep that up over the course of the entire season.
fit in? If he signs elsewhere, and meets the minimum # of AB’s for the option to kick in, who pays the premium? That would go a long way in seeing who signs him. He’s still a good hitter ,but I wouldn’t want to pay him $22 mill!
fit in? If he signs elsewhere, and meets the minimum # of AB’s for the option to kick in, who pays the premium? That would go a long way in seeing who signs him. He’s still a good hitter ,but I wouldn’t want to pay him $22 mill!
Hard to envision anybody claiming the contract with that option. He’ll clear waivers and be released/paid by Boston. Old contract will be dead and he’ll be a free agent.
fit in? If he signs elsewhere, and meets the minimum # of AB’s for the option to kick in, who pays the premium? That would go a long way in seeing who signs him. He’s still a good hitter ,but I wouldn’t want to pay him $22 mill!
Hard to envision anybody claiming the contract with that option. He’ll clear waivers and be released/paid by Boston. Old contract will be dead and he’ll be a free agent.
Mets should be all over this.
He's having a 0.0 oWAR season coming off a -0.1 oWAR season. At this point, Gonzalez is a slightly better hitter. The only way I'd be for Hanley is if they get rid of Reyes and he plays a similar role, as in, rarely sees the field or ABs. But the subtraction of Reyes would be a net positive.
You don’t simply kill a contract by waiving someone. Â
If waived, the Red Sox would be in the hook for the balance owed this season, less the vet minimum his new team will pay him. But I’m uncertain how that option works. I’m assuming Boston is liable, which makes his DFA surprising. Why not bury him on the bench to make sure he doesn’t get the AB’s to qualify?
2+ years too late.
Swihart: they spent 2 years trying to make a C an OF, so why not first? Maybe use Holt, or Vasquez to save his knees,since they have ZERO in the farm.
Speaking of C, was Loboton hitting > his Mendoza? He'd be their best hitting catcher. Their bottom 4 are pitiful with the stick.
RE: You don’t simply kill a contract by waiving someone. Â
If waived, the Red Sox would be in the hook for the balance owed this season, less the vet minimum his new team will pay him. But I’m uncertain how that option works. I’m assuming Boston is liable, which makes his DFA surprising. Why not bury him on the bench to make sure he doesn’t get the AB’s to qualify?
My understanding - Once the existing contract clears waivers and he’s cut, the conditions of the option haven’t been met, he gets paid the full current year salary, and the option is gone forever. He becomes a free agent and agrees to a brand new contract w someone else.
He of the .254/.320/.445 career triple slash over nine seasons who is currently hitting .311/.390/.612. I'm sure he'll keep that up over the course of the entire season.
Unless Ortiz has been mentoring him on using roids the wall.
Isn't he one of their better hitters ? Doesn't he kill the Yankees ? This looks stupid. There's a very good chance he doesn't get those 497 plate appearances that would cause the option to kick in. Besides why worry about it now ? They're still going to have to pay him for this year.
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Isn't he one of their better hitters ? Doesn't he kill the Yankees ? This looks stupid. There's a very good chance he doesn't get those 497 plate appearances that would cause the option to kick in. Besides why worry about it now ? They're still going to have to pay him for this year.
His days as one of their better hitters seem to be behind him. And although he's done well against the Yankees so far this year, but did pretty poorly the past few years.
And if they're convinced he's done, why wouldn't they worry about option for next year? They can't save this year's salary, but next year's is still a material amount of money worth saving.
Hanley still hasn’t finished his slow trot around the bases Â
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and I get that he's in a slump right now, but you don't just cut your everyday number three hitter in the middle of the season. Such a move can destabilize an entire lineup, which in the Red Sox case, isn't that good to begin with. They could have platooned him against lefties only. They could have put him on the DL with some phantom injury to give him some rest and decrease the likelihood that he hits the PA target.
Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
I am a Yankee fan who will be glad to see him go Â
and I get that he's in a slump right now, but you don't just cut your everyday number three hitter in the middle of the season. Such a move can destabilize an entire lineup, which in the Red Sox case, isn't that good to begin with. They could have platooned him against lefties only. They could have put him on the DL with some phantom injury to give him some rest and decrease the likelihood that he hits the PA target.
Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
I think you’re reading into it too much. It was a move to get Moreland more ABs while improving their defense. And of course not to mention abounding the $22M next year, no way they were letting that option beat. So out of respect to Hanley they DFA him now as opposed to in 3 months
He of the .254/.320/.445 career triple slash over nine seasons who is currently hitting .311/.390/.612. I'm sure he'll keep that up over the course of the entire season.
Unless Ortiz has been mentoring him on using roids the wall.
and I get that he's in a slump right now, but you don't just cut your everyday number three hitter in the middle of the season. Such a move can destabilize an entire lineup, which in the Red Sox case, isn't that good to begin with. They could have platooned him against lefties only. They could have put him on the DL with some phantom injury to give him some rest and decrease the likelihood that he hits the PA target.
Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
and I get that he's in a slump right now, but you don't just cut your everyday number three hitter in the middle of the season. Such a move can destabilize an entire lineup, which in the Red Sox case, isn't that good to begin with. They could have platooned him against lefties only. They could have put him on the DL with some phantom injury to give him some rest and decrease the likelihood that he hits the PA target.
Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
Puh-leeze. They're trying to win a championship. Despite his decline, despite the Red Sox being #2 in runs scored, this was their number 3 hitter. If they platoon him even for only a couple of months, there's no way he reaches 497 plate appearences. Why is this so important ? I remember Giambi's last few years with the Yankees. He could only hit in the low .200's and he was hurt a lot but it was a different line up when he played. Why ? Because pitchers were still afraid of him. That meant more fastballs to the hitters in front of him and more balls to him. Ramirez gives the Red Sox a similar benefit. An added benefit is that he gives Yankee pitching fits.
Hard to envision anybody claiming the contract with that option. He’ll clear waivers and be released/paid by Boston. Old contract will be dead and he’ll be a free agent.
Mets should be all over this.
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fit in? If he signs elsewhere, and meets the minimum # of AB’s for the option to kick in, who pays the premium? That would go a long way in seeing who signs him. He’s still a good hitter ,but I wouldn’t want to pay him $22 mill!
Hard to envision anybody claiming the contract with that option. He’ll clear waivers and be released/paid by Boston. Old contract will be dead and he’ll be a free agent.
Mets should be all over this.
He's having a 0.0 oWAR season coming off a -0.1 oWAR season. At this point, Gonzalez is a slightly better hitter. The only way I'd be for Hanley is if they get rid of Reyes and he plays a similar role, as in, rarely sees the field or ABs. But the subtraction of Reyes would be a net positive.
Swihart: they spent 2 years trying to make a C an OF, so why not first? Maybe use Holt, or Vasquez to save his knees,since they have ZERO in the farm.
Speaking of C, was Loboton hitting > his Mendoza? He'd be their best hitting catcher. Their bottom 4 are pitiful with the stick.
My understanding - Once the existing contract clears waivers and he’s cut, the conditions of the option haven’t been met, he gets paid the full current year salary, and the option is gone forever. He becomes a free agent and agrees to a brand new contract w someone else.
No brainer
Unless Ortiz has been mentoring him on using roids the wall.
Glad we're not in the position where we're clamoring to sign him. We're all set. :)
Glad we're not in the position where we're clamoring to sign him. We're all set. :)
If only they had the $$ to compete with the Evil Empire!
He has also struggled mightily in AAA over the past two years.
Pedroia or Nunez to first?
Look at what 4-40 (or whatever it was) did to Didi. .327/.421/.735 at the end of April, now .246/.326/.521
His days as one of their better hitters seem to be behind him. And although he's done well against the Yankees so far this year, but did pretty poorly the past few years.
And if they're convinced he's done, why wouldn't they worry about option for next year? They can't save this year's salary, but next year's is still a material amount of money worth saving.
Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
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Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
I think you’re reading into it too much. It was a move to get Moreland more ABs while improving their defense. And of course not to mention abounding the $22M next year, no way they were letting that option beat. So out of respect to Hanley they DFA him now as opposed to in 3 months
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He of the .254/.320/.445 career triple slash over nine seasons who is currently hitting .311/.390/.612. I'm sure he'll keep that up over the course of the entire season.
Unless Ortiz has been mentoring him on using roids the wall.
Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
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and I get that he's in a slump right now, but you don't just cut your everyday number three hitter in the middle of the season. Such a move can destabilize an entire lineup, which in the Red Sox case, isn't that good to begin with. They could have platooned him against lefties only. They could have put him on the DL with some phantom injury to give him some rest and decrease the likelihood that he hits the PA target.
Maybe there's some clubhouse problem we don't know about or maybe their 40 man is so tight that there's no one else that they can DFA or move to the 60. On the surface though, this move looks a huge blunder.
the Red Sox lineup isn’t that good?
They are only second in runs scored!