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NFT: Mets @ Brewers, Game 2 -- Happy Thorsday!

jpkmets : 5/25/2018 7:52 pm
Lineup:

Nimmo LF
Cabrera 2B
Flores 1B
Bruce RF
Conforto CF
Mesoraco C
Gonzalez 1B
Syndergaard P
Rosario SS

Trying to start the road trip with two wins in Milwaukee!!!
AMazing catch  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 8:22 pm : link
by Nimmo for the second out.

Man, he's a heck of a talent.
nice pitching to get  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 8:24 pm : link
Aguilar swinging. Slider looks good tonight.
Thor gives up a bomb  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 8:34 pm : link
and then a single to start the second.
Monster  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 8:44 pm : link
shot by Rosario. Wow!

Tie game!
Thor gives it back on  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 8:56 pm : link
single & SB by cain and a single by Yelich

Yelich steals 2nd as well.
Looking like another 5 inning start  
Rflairr : 5/25/2018 9:01 pm : link
From “Ace Thor”
Thor gives up 2  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 9:08 pm : link
but Conforto gets one back hooking one inside the RF foul pole.
Thor getting hit but 52 pitches through 4  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/25/2018 9:21 pm : link
if he gets his shit together he could easily go 7.
RE: Looking like another 5 inning start  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 9:21 pm : link
In comment 13975649 Rflairr said:
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From “Ace Thor”



It actually really doesn't, since he's at 52 pitches through 4 innings.
nasty sinker to K Cain  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 9:29 pm : link
at 97... Just tied him up.
nice inning  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 9:32 pm : link
Thor and Mesoraco made some nice adjustments after the third.

Need a couple more runs tho!
Syndergaard in a really good stretch last three innings  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 9:47 pm : link
8 in a row, 5 by K. Pitching backwards a little -- got ahead on sliders and then spots the FB late.

Mets have to tangle with the Brewers bullpen now -- not an easy task.
Those numbers on Hader  
jpkmets : 5/25/2018 9:50 pm : link
are crazy.

wow
nice job workign a full count by Guillorme, now 10 pitches this AB  
Eric on Li : 5/25/2018 10:41 pm : link
would love to see him develop into a great defensive, pesky offensive 2B.
They may just scrape out a win tonight  
steve in ky : 5/25/2018 10:44 pm : link
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Alonso  
pjcas18 : 5/25/2018 10:48 pm : link
another HR tonight.

Gimenez another 2 hits.
Poor base running saves them  
steve in ky : 5/25/2018 10:53 pm : link
.
I don’t trust Blevins  
Rflairr : 5/25/2018 11:09 pm : link
. I would stick with Gsellman
Lol  
Rflairr : 5/25/2018 11:12 pm : link
He’s such a bum. Never can count on him to get the big lefty
All the over managing  
Rflairr : 5/25/2018 11:16 pm : link
Gsellman could have got you that one out
If they beat you so be it but don't just hand it to them  
steve in ky : 5/25/2018 11:17 pm : link
.
Great trade Sandy  
spike : 5/25/2018 11:19 pm : link
AJ Ramos sucks
That loser just walked them both  
steve in ky : 5/25/2018 11:19 pm : link
.
This should make  
spike : 5/25/2018 11:20 pm : link
Familia feel better about himself
Another Sandy special  
moespree : 5/25/2018 11:20 pm : link
Another loser ass player.
What a complete  
allstarjim : 5/25/2018 11:20 pm : link
Choke artist.

You can not trust a guy like that with the game on the line. Wow he sucks.

We need Swarzak back yesterday.
Shouldve kept Harvey  
spike : 5/25/2018 11:21 pm : link
And send his guy packing
Just leave Gsellman in  
Vanzetti : 5/25/2018 11:23 pm : link
Don't overmanage. Very Terry Collins-like loss tonight.

Loved Gary’s  
RodneyHamp : 5/25/2018 11:28 pm : link
“Holy Hansel Robles!”
I put the blame on Sandy  
moespree : 5/25/2018 11:29 pm : link
For year after year constructing a roster that will only be good if about 95 different things go right all at the same time. But I'm not overly enthused by Mickey Callaway, if I'm to be honest.
Idiotic Manager  
Rflairr : 5/25/2018 11:30 pm : link
.
Every year  
Rflairr : 5/25/2018 11:34 pm : link
This clown of a GM, can’t fix the same weaknesses that hurt this team. Catcher and bullpen. He’s a complete failure
Callaway should have added an experienced NL bench coach  
steve in ky : 5/25/2018 11:43 pm : link
to help walk him through some spots
.  
arcarsenal : 5/26/2018 1:12 am : link
AJ Ramos is trash - I say it constantly. His control is terrible and he has no plus pitch. He throws a ton of junk and tries to confuse hitters but he can't throw strikes and when he does, they usually hang.

So - can't blame this one on Familia.

And again, Thor was okay - good, not bad - but after tonight, he's got a 3.06 ERA. Which is fine for most pitchers, really good for many, actually. But not one with his stuff. If Steven Matz has a 3.06 ERA I am thrilled. Ditto Zack Wheeler. Thor? Just has to be better.

I'll say it until I am blue in the face - Jacob deGrom is an elite pitcher. Noah has elite stuff. There is a very big next step he can take but he hasn't taken it yet.

Was Sewald unavailable tonight? He's the guy I would have went to when Callaway went to Ramos. Sewald pitched two innings last night but he hadn't pitched since the first game of the Miami series before that and it was only 2/3 of an inning.

If he wasn't available, I guess it is what it is.

I don't know what happened to Blevins but he's been absolutely terrible.

We need Swarzak back desperately. Otherwise we're going to run Lugo and Gsellman into the fucking mud.
I think Collins killed Blevins arm last year but it could just be age  
Eric on Li : 5/26/2018 9:10 am : link
Tim Britton (Athletic$) had a good article summing up how yesterday showed all of the Mets problems at once - cliff notes for those who don't subscribe:

- Ramos and others in the BP have sucked, especially with walks. And a big part of that blame goes to Sandy who ended up paying Ramos more than Addison Reed got and giving up a prospect. (truthfully Sandy has always been very hit or miss with his BP signings and never dedicated enough of his budget there IMO).

- They continue to not spend on top players in FA, instead making depth signings, and yet their depth still sucks. Reyes has been garbage and they were forced to pinch hit Guillorme in a L on L situation. Went through how bad the depth is at AAA to help them weather injuries.

- Callaway's decisions (like pinch hitting Reyes for Thor under 80 pitches, with 2 out and 1 guy on) haven't been great, but he acknowledges that he doesn't have too many good options due to the depth.

My take on this roster (and org in general) is that the fish rots from the head down. We can fairly crush Sandy for not improving the team more over 8 years, but a big part of that is that the budget has simply been insufficient. They are 12th in payroll and have the 13th best record. 13% of their payroll has been retired due to spinal stenosis for basically 3 years, which means their effective payroll is really like 16th, which is still the high water mark for his tenure. But the lack of resources aren't just on the field - over the last few years there's been a brain drain within his FO as other teams have poached people who haven't been replaced. Or been replaced by Wilpon people he didn't seem to endorse (Omar). We know their international scouting presence is behind the top teams. They don't even get involved in top tier IFA's or defectors. As has been the case in Met land since the Wilpons took over full ownership there's no long term strategy or commitment to winning, just various levels of shame spending and a once a decade 90 win season followed by disappointment. Sandy has been an average GM whose overall record lines up pretty closely with the resources he has been given, and while he deserves to go he also deserves credit for getting the team out of the laughing stock category. When he took over we were basically the Madoff version of the Marlins.
Britton: Who cost the Mets Friday night’s game? It’s a long answer - ( New Window )
RE: I think Collins killed Blevins arm last year but it could just be age  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/26/2018 9:59 am : link
In comment 13975866 Eric on Li said:
Quote:
Tim Britton (Athletic$) had a good article summing up how yesterday showed all of the Mets problems at once - cliff notes for those who don't subscribe:

- Ramos and others in the BP have sucked, especially with walks. And a big part of that blame goes to Sandy who ended up paying Ramos more than Addison Reed got and giving up a prospect. (truthfully Sandy has always been very hit or miss with his BP signings and never dedicated enough of his budget there IMO).

- They continue to not spend on top players in FA, instead making depth signings, and yet their depth still sucks. Reyes has been garbage and they were forced to pinch hit Guillorme in a L on L situation. Went through how bad the depth is at AAA to help them weather injuries.

- Callaway's decisions (like pinch hitting Reyes for Thor under 80 pitches, with 2 out and 1 guy on) haven't been great, but he acknowledges that he doesn't have too many good options due to the depth.

My take on this roster (and org in general) is that the fish rots from the head down. We can fairly crush Sandy for not improving the team more over 8 years, but a big part of that is that the budget has simply been insufficient. They are 12th in payroll and have the 13th best record. 13% of their payroll has been retired due to spinal stenosis for basically 3 years, which means their effective payroll is really like 16th, which is still the high water mark for his tenure. But the lack of resources aren't just on the field - over the last few years there's been a brain drain within his FO as other teams have poached people who haven't been replaced. Or been replaced by Wilpon people he didn't seem to endorse (Omar). We know their international scouting presence is behind the top teams. They don't even get involved in top tier IFA's or defectors. As has been the case in Met land since the Wilpons took over full ownership there's no long term strategy or commitment to winning, just various levels of shame spending and a once a decade 90 win season followed by disappointment. Sandy has been an average GM whose overall record lines up pretty closely with the resources he has been given, and while he deserves to go he also deserves credit for getting the team out of the laughing stock category. When he took over we were basically the Madoff version of the Marlins. Britton: Who cost the Mets Friday night’s game? It’s a long answer - ( New Window )


I believe this to be accurate. On a side note, is the Athletic worth the subscription? I wouldn't mind paying for good quality, ad free, sports journalism.
AA Binghamton news for you guys...  
tony stg : 5/26/2018 11:49 am : link
... one of my former players, Christian James, is on a flight right now to Binghamton. Pitching in the AA game tomorrow.
Re the athletic  
Eric on Li : 5/26/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13975883 Rob in Rockaway said:
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I believe this to be accurate. On a side note, is the Athletic worth the subscription? I wouldn't mind paying for good quality, ad free, sports journalism.


Yes - I think it's phenomenal. For the Mets they have Britton and occasionally Carig. For the Giants they have Duggan and Pat Traina. I'm an Islanders fan so they have their best beat guy (Staple).

And then Rosenthal (MLB), Corey Pronman (NHL), and Bruce Feldman (CFB) are great national reporters. They seem to have a lot of 40% off type promotions and I believe they do a free 1 month trial. I highly recommend.
Vargas  
spike : 5/26/2018 5:48 pm : link
with yet another gem.

It is almost June and it's time to cut bait. Let Lugo or Gsellman get a chance
RE: Re the athletic  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/26/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13976013 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 13975883 Rob in Rockaway said:


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I believe this to be accurate. On a side note, is the Athletic worth the subscription? I wouldn't mind paying for good quality, ad free, sports journalism.



Yes - I think it's phenomenal. For the Mets they have Britton and occasionally Carig. For the Giants they have Duggan and Pat Traina. I'm an Islanders fan so they have their best beat guy (Staple).

And then Rosenthal (MLB), Corey Pronman (NHL), and Bruce Feldman (CFB) are great national reporters. They seem to have a lot of 40% off type promotions and I believe they do a free 1 month trial. I highly recommend.


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