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NFT: Yankees News - Bird Called Up

Ace718 : 5/26/2018 12:22 pm
Bird joins the Yankees after a DL stint. In a surprising move, Ronal Torreyes has been sent down to make space.
Oh no Toe  
adamg : 5/26/2018 12:25 pm : link
Austin dethroned the toenight show
Glad to see Bird back!  
EddieNYG : 5/26/2018 12:26 pm : link
It was tricky who to send down. No matter who they send down, it would upset people.

I wish they didn't send down Torreyes, but I understand why. Torreyes is the perfect bench player and all he does is produce when he's out there. Hope he's back up soon!
Omg. So sad to see Toe get sent down  
DennyInDenville : 5/26/2018 12:26 pm : link
Really really STUNNED.

Even Kay last night pompously said we all know Toe isn't going anywhere

I know many will disagree, but I would have sent Down Austin before Torreyes.

Toe does everything asked of him.

Austin can use everyday ABs and sharpen his batters eye and glovework more in aaa rather then play twice a week
I'm surprised  
TJ : 5/26/2018 12:27 pm : link
I would have bet money on Austin or a reliever.
I actually feel bad for Toe  
DennyInDenville : 5/26/2018 12:28 pm : link
We should cut him versus make him rot in AAA

He doesn't deserve this.

Toe is PRO, not a aaa player. Cut the man!!!
The fact that Austin has been kept around  
Ace718 : 5/26/2018 12:29 pm : link
Shows the Yankees might be looking at a platoon at 1B. Austin has really hit lefties well.
Calm down Denny  
adamg : 5/26/2018 12:29 pm : link
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What position will Torreyes play  
TJ : 5/26/2018 12:30 pm : link
in AAA? Do they give him a daily spot? Or is he a utility guy in the minors too?
RE: I actually feel bad for Toe  
Ace718 : 5/26/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13975959 DennyInDenville said:
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We should cut him versus make him rot in AAA

He doesn't deserve this.

Toe is PRO, not a aaa player. Cut the man!!!


This might not be a long term demotion for Toe. If Austin struggles for a stretch then he will he t sent down.
It all makes sense. I understand the move, I really do  
DennyInDenville : 5/26/2018 12:35 pm : link
Austin mashes leftys , and Bird needs to be eased back in. Walker can play a solid 1B and some 2B/3B.

I guess Gleyber is now the backup SS if Didi needs a day?

Now that I think about it, Torreyes will be called back up real soon I bet. I understand the move, I'm sure the professional Torreyes does also. I hope this doesn't count against his service time at all, but none the less, this was the right move by Cashman , he had an option left, and Austin has displayed prominent ample upper echelon Power.

Torreyes is a good World Series guy also, can pinch hit for a pitcher and put the ball in play when that's all you need and get that timely RBI.

Looking forward to tonight's game, will make sure I'm home for the pregame show.
Wow ...  
Beer Man : 5/26/2018 12:45 pm : link
Toe sent down. Someone had to go. My guess is one of a few things could still happen
- Toe or Drury will be traded
- If Bird successfully retakes his 1st base position, Austin will be sent down or traded and Toe or Drury will be called back up
Austin will be in better position to increase his trade value...  
Milton : 5/26/2018 12:47 pm : link
...getting at bats versus lefties in the Majors than he would as an every day player in the Minors. Torreyes will be back sooner or later and most likely sooner.
RE: Wow ...  
NoGainDayne : 5/26/2018 12:50 pm : link
In comment 13975973 Beer Man said:
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Toe sent down. Someone had to go. My guess is one of a few things could still happen
- Toe or Drury will be traded
- If Bird successfully retakes his 1st base position, Austin will be sent down or traded and Toe or Drury will be called back up


You can’t trade Austin. Even if Bird plays well he’s been too injury prone to rely on
RE: RE: Wow ...  
Beer Man : 5/26/2018 12:54 pm : link
In comment 13975979 NoGainDayne said:
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Toe sent down. Someone had to go. My guess is one of a few things could still happen
- Toe or Drury will be traded
- If Bird successfully retakes his 1st base position, Austin will be sent down or traded and Toe or Drury will be called back up



You can’t trade Austin. Even if Bird plays well he’s been too injury prone to rely on
They may have no choice. If Bird comes back and plays the way we all hope, Austin will be a man without a position. Because of the glut of talent on this team right now, there are a few players blocked
RE: RE: Wow ...  
TJ : 5/26/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13975979 NoGainDayne said:
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Toe sent down. Someone had to go. My guess is one of a few things could still happen
- Toe or Drury will be traded
- If Bird successfully retakes his 1st base position, Austin will be sent down or traded and Toe or Drury will be called back up



You can’t trade Austin. Even if Bird plays well he’s been too injury prone to rely on


Depends on whether yankees believe walker or drury can fill in at 1st.
RE: I actually feel bad for Toe  
djm : 5/26/2018 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13975959 DennyInDenville said:
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We should cut him versus make him rot in AAA

He doesn't deserve this.

Toe is PRO, not a aaa player. Cut the man!!!


Wtf. You aren’t doing the guy a favor by cutting him and you sure as hell are hurting the team by cutting him. The yanks are in this to win.

RE: RE: I actually feel bad for Toe  
DennyInDenville : 5/26/2018 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13975983 djm said:
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We should cut him versus make him rot in AAA

He doesn't deserve this.

Toe is PRO, not a aaa player. Cut the man!!!



Wtf. You aren’t doing the guy a favor by cutting him and you sure as hell are hurting the team by cutting him. The yanks are in this to win.

I know. Was just emotion. I understand the move now.
RE: RE: RE: I actually feel bad for Toe  
chopperhatch : 5/26/2018 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13975984 DennyInDenville said:
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We should cut him versus make him rot in AAA

He doesn't deserve this.

Toe is PRO, not a aaa player. Cut the man!!!



Wtf. You aren’t doing the guy a favor by cutting him and you sure as hell are hurting the team by cutting him. The yanks are in this to win.



I know. Was just emotion. I understand the move now.


You post like a hyperactive child.
RE: RE: Wow ...  
Beer Man : 5/26/2018 1:08 pm : link
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Toe sent down. Someone had to go. My guess is one of a few things could still happen
- Toe or Drury will be traded
- If Bird successfully retakes his 1st base position, Austin will be sent down or traded and Toe or Drury will be called back up



You can’t trade Austin. Even if Bird plays well he’s been too injury prone to rely on
I just re-read this. You could interpet this a couple ways, given that both Bird and Austin have proven to be injury prone.
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DennyInDenville : 5/26/2018 1:09 pm : link
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We should cut him versus make him rot in AAA

He doesn't deserve this.

Toe is PRO, not a aaa player. Cut the man!!!



Wtf. You aren’t doing the guy a favor by cutting him and you sure as hell are hurting the team by cutting him. The yanks are in this to win.



I know. Was just emotion. I understand the move now.



You post like a hyperactive child.

Fair enough, you post nothing of any meaning ever . So there's that atleast, you just troll people every day and night, it's very Sad chopper. Hang in there , Bucko
Wow  
Jints in Carolina : 5/26/2018 1:21 pm : link
Bucko has been thrown down.
Toe is an overrated offensive player  
Dunedin81 : 5/26/2018 1:47 pm : link
He is hitting for average which is great, but when that comes back down to earth you'll have a guy who refuses to walk, has minimal power and doesn't run fast. He is versatile, sure, but we have a backup at every defensive position.
RE: Wow ...  
rich in DC : 5/26/2018 1:50 pm : link
In comment 13975973 Beer Man said:
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Toe sent down. Someone had to go. My guess is one of a few things could still happen
- Toe or Drury will be traded
- If Bird successfully retakes his 1st base position, Austin will be sent down or traded and Toe or Drury will be called back up


Just wondering, but could be wrong about this- I wonder whether this is a step towards shifting the bench? Without Torreyes, it COULD open up a spot for Drury as the all-purpose sub, while sending Austin to the minors.

In other words, Drury would be the 5th OF (RF and LF), backup 2B, backup 3B, backup DH and could be tried at a couple other spots.

In the meantime, the Yanks could shift Walker's role to backup 1B, backup 3B and late inning PH.

They would obviously have Romine as the backup C.

Eventually, when they begin to get 6-7 innings out of the SP (if that happens actually), they could send down a P to bring in a speed guy off the bench for late inning defense and PR.

I could be way off base on this one, just a guess on my part on the big picture.

I am really not sure what the future for Torreyes is. The Yanks have a roster crunch of INF in the minors. In AAA, you have Estrada, Wade and Drury. In AA, you have Avelino, who was and still should be in AAA. Kyle Holder will be back in a week or two (rehabbing at low A Charleston).

Not sure how they handle this going forward- too many bodies and something needs to give.
Austin  
13ODB : 5/26/2018 1:57 pm : link
Should of been sent down. Walker could always play first on days Bird doesn’t play. I know Toe doesn’t play every day but when he does he always makes things happen and fields well Austin has hit some home runs but other then that strikes out a lot and his OBP is awful.
Austin has 8 homers in just about 100 AB's  
Phil in LA : 5/26/2018 2:01 pm : link
that's probably the second best rate on the team after Gleyber. You don't send down players like that.
If Frazier and Drury can play for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre  
bceagle05 : 5/26/2018 2:02 pm : link
I don't see why Torreyes can't.
RE: Austin  
BC Eagles94 : 5/26/2018 2:03 pm : link
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Should of been sent down. Walker could always play first on days Bird doesn’t play. I know Toe doesn’t play every day but when he does he always makes things happen and fields well Austin has hit some home runs but other then that strikes out a lot and his OBP is awful.


I see what you're saying, and somewhat agree. Austin has had some huge HR's, but contributes very little else. And Walker and Bird as 1B is plenty for the roster. But I think they want to ease Bird back in. But unless Austin continues to mash lefties, he'll be sent down eventually and Toe will be back up.
Denny...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/26/2018 2:05 pm : link
Toe actually has two options left.
Rich in DC...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/26/2018 2:11 pm : link
Good point. I was thinking that myself. If Bird is the Bird he is supposed to be and staying healthy, I think Austin eventually gets sent down OR the extra reliever eventually goes. And when either of those happen...it very well could be Drury who is brought back up as a super sub and not Toe. I love Toe and he deserves to be here, but so do others guys too. Drury can play every position Toe can (besides SS, which Torres can play), but is a more of a hitter. The beautiful thing about Toe is how well he plays the utility role. He can sit for a week and then go 3-4. And he is an awesome guy in the clubhouse, his teammates really love him. He is perfect for that role, we just have too many guys.

In the grand scheme Neil Walker screwed it up to begin with. He should have just taken his market value deal from the Yanks and then we would have never traded for Drury. But he didn't, and then we signed him anyway after Drury trade, as it was too good to pass up. And now we just have too many good damn players! But I guess we can't cry about that!
I’m with (most of) the crowd here  
mfsd : 5/26/2018 2:17 pm : link
Toe has had some nice moments and his dependability and versatility have value, but it was the obvious move to make.

As someone said above, Torres backs up Didi, Walker backs up 2B and 3B, and Austin’s bat is too valuable right now.

The real question is who goes if/when they decide Drury is ready? Or, had Drury been Wally Pipp’d and just trade bait?

I also agree that while they may not like it, with a long season ahead still and durability questions for Bird, it’s a no brainer to park Toe in the minors
Because...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/26/2018 2:20 pm : link
keep in kind, we gave up a couple very good prospects for Drury since he was young, controllable, and a good hitter.

--Nick Solak was a top 2B prospect for us who isn't rule 5 eligible until 2019. He is tearing up AA for Tampa. He is 23 years old and his slash line is .305/.411/.491.

--And Taylor Widener was a good righty SP prospect for us, who also wasn't rule 5 eligible until after next season (2019 again). And he is also tearing up AA now for Arizona. He is also 23 years old and in 10 starts has a 2.74 ERA and 70 K's in only 49 IP with a 1.014 WHIP.

Best thing would have been Walker signing earlier, and never trading for Drury.
The problem with trading Drury now....  
BC Eagles94 : 5/26/2018 2:21 pm : link
is we will get nothing like the two prospects we gave up to get him. His trade value is low with his migraine/blurred vision issues, and the fact he is toiling away in AAA for us.
send down an RP  
The Turk : 5/26/2018 2:33 pm : link
why go with 13 man pitching staff? can always get a P on short notice if needed
It's the right move  
PaulN : 5/26/2018 2:36 pm : link
Torreyes has no power and does not walk, Austin is more valuable now that Torres is the backup shortstop. I would rather have Torres at short and Walker at second, then Torreyes at short and Torres at second, it's that simple a decision.
I agree that  
bigbluehoya : 5/26/2018 2:53 pm : link
Drury would appear to be the utility knife when he returns.

I think the move for Drury will be to send one of the pitchers down (who knows when that will be though). I don’t see them going with an 8 man pen for the long term.
RE: The problem with trading Drury now....  
mfsd : 5/26/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 13976023 BC Eagles94 said:
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is we will get nothing like the two prospects we gave up to get him. His trade value is low with his migraine/blurred vision issues, and the fact he is toiling away in AAA for us.


Good point
I had a feeling Austin would stay on the MLB roster  
arniefez : 5/26/2018 3:14 pm : link
for now. Torreyes was the logical choice to be sent down for now. My guess is he'll be back pretty soon and that Austin wont be around much longer. I think the 6/1 roster and the 8/1 roster are going to look somewhat different. The Yankees have about 2 months to decide what direction they want to go for the stretch run
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chopperhatch : 5/26/2018 3:19 pm : link
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We should cut him versus make him rot in AAA

He doesn't deserve this.

Toe is PRO, not a aaa player. Cut the man!!!



Wtf. You aren’t doing the guy a favor by cutting him and you sure as hell are hurting the team by cutting him. The yanks are in this to win.



I know. Was just emotion. I understand the move now.



You post like a hyperactive child.


Fair enough, you post nothing of any meaning ever . So there's that atleast, you just troll people every day and night, it's very Sad chopper. Hang in there , Bucko


Riiiight. I think if we took a poll the board would most likely find me a midge more tolerable than you, but whatever.

I didnt mean to miller, just wanted to point out that you always sound like a schmuck.
Mitch fucking Moreland at it again.  
bceagle05 : 5/26/2018 3:44 pm : link
Double, triple. Fuck the Red Sox.
...  
BleedBlue : 5/26/2018 3:45 pm : link
damn sox always finding a way to win lol.

braves have a nice tiny lead, bam, tied up. braves get more sox get more...


they are very tough!
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Ryan in Albany : 5/26/2018 3:52 pm : link
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damn sox always finding a way to win lol.

braves have a nice tiny lead, bam, tied up. braves get more sox get more...


they are very tough!


Somehow they found a way to lose considering they started off 17-2 and only have a 1 game lead.
Well, we're on a 23-6 tear and still have a one-game deficit.  
bceagle05 : 5/26/2018 3:58 pm : link
So they're probably feeling good about that. Should be a great race.
I would've sent Austin down simply because he's been  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/26/2018 5:01 pm : link
awful since the 2 HR game... 0-12 with 7 strikeouts. Perhaps he was just pressing because of the impending Bird activation, but his ABs looked horrendous. I know Torres can play short, but he's never done it in the Majors and why move him out of the comfort zone he's in now? In addition, Didi still looks terrible at the plate and maybe a day off against a tough lefty (with Toe starting) wouldn't be a bad thing for him.
.  
Bill2 : 5/26/2018 5:18 pm : link
interesting insight by rich in dc
What's Drury's ceiling?  
adamg : 5/26/2018 5:23 pm : link
I have no idea what this guy's production is supposed to look like.
i suspect the  
Bill2 : 5/26/2018 5:29 pm : link
original plan was to solve 3base and the depth with 4 of 5 from Wade, Drury, Andujar, Ellsbury and Walker. Might have been the original plan to let Andujar season on defense.

Somehow, Torreyes is the one id want as backup for Didi.

Planned position depth is not quite meshing yet

Good secondary depth options from the minors seems better than most teams ( Toe, Austin)


I also think they will want to get Bird to hit lefthanders well enough to be the everyday answer if only for a defensive upgrade. He will be on the best side to hit on in this stadium and lineup
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