Will OBj be signed to an extension

I really think they should aggressively lock him up before the deal is done. I hate using the tag in general other than to prolong negotiations.

His injury isn’t in the knees so medically I have little doubt that he will be back to being a game changing player. Those don’t grow on trees as we all know.

It's possible.

Giants tend to wait to seasons end and get the best evaluation data to decide. Sometimes they save; sometimes it costs extra.
Plus, they would want to wait to see If the ankle has caused him to lose a little, be a nagging injury, or had no effect.

That is the plan. But a lot can happen and change.

He's not playing.

coming off the injury. Once he proves that he is 100% healthy and plays to his standards he will receive a new deal. I would be shocked if they didn't extend him before the end of the season as he has shown up to the OTA's with a good attitude.

OBJ will likely get paid in 2019.

We can open a ton of cap space next year if we deem it necessary.

In comment 13975992 ZogZerg said:

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He's not playing.

You think the OBJ camp is reall going to throw down the gauntlet?

And he would be VERY foolish to play, even in pre-season without a new contract. He needs to show in practice he's healthy, but I strongly doubt he plays without that extension.

If they feel he is healthy Yes
The distraction would be immense if not
We don’t need to feed the beast in every public outing or interview

and Sammy Watkins has a 3 yr/$48MM deal. Good for him showing up for the OTAs, but there's no way I would be anywhere near training camp without a new deal.

In comment 13976021 bw in dc said:

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In comment 13975992 ZogZerg said: Quote: He's not playing. You think the OBJ camp is reall going to throw down the gauntlet?

Yes, OBJ has already stated that he's not playing unless he gets a new deal. And, I don't blame him

but it's an incredible risk to take to play without a deal. We've already seen him get hurt in meaningless games once. You can argue that if he doesn't play, he won't get a deal, but he also won't get a deal if she ends up shredding his knee. Being a "good soldier" isn't going to be a comfort.

and it is just going to hurt his value if he does. My guess the Giants and his agent have talked numbers to some extent. The Giants have told them that they will wait and make sure he is fully healed before committing 50-60M Guaranteed. That is why he has been at OTA's. The Giants will get some sort of team friendly deal and OBJ will get enough $ to be set for life.

I doubt we see OBJ in any preseason game anyway.

In comment 13976041 Dave on the UWS said:

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And he would be VERY foolish to play, even in pre-season without a new contract. He needs to show in practice he's healthy, but I strongly doubt he plays without that extension.

Great post. I think you are exactly, 100$ correct

he will.

w/incentives thrown in - for one year with a promise that if he plays up to snuff then they'll redo a long-term deal at seasons end. Pre-seasons nice but the real proof on how well a guy really performs is in the meaningful games. No way I pay him big and long-term before I see him play in real games. The Gmen should be willing to take a smaller hit to be sure they don't take a longer hit that doesn't pay off. On paper, this type of injury and OBJ's young age shouldn't hurt his future production but an ankle injury to a runner can limit their abilities!!

[There are perhaps 3 people who don't realize that I'm being sarcastic. So for their benefit, I'm saying that we are forced to keep OBJ because he is the only decent WR we have.]

In comment 13976062 ZogZerg said:

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In comment 13976021 bw in dc said: Quote: In comment 13975992 ZogZerg said: Quote: He's not playing. You think the OBJ camp is reall going to throw down the gauntlet? Yes, OBJ has already stated that he's not playing unless he gets a new deal. And, I don't blame him

No he hasn't

And make sure the ankle holds up to the rigors of the game. Too much money to screw this up.

In comment 13976145 1bobstevensbob1 said:

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w/incentives thrown in - for one year with a promise that if he plays up to snuff then they'll redo a long-term deal at seasons end. Pre-seasons nice but the real proof on how well a guy really performs is in the meaningful games. No way I pay him big and long-term before I see him play in real games. The Gmen should be willing to take a smaller hit to be sure they don't take a longer hit that doesn't pay off. On paper, this type of injury and OBJ's young age shouldn't hurt his future production but an ankle injury to a runner can limit their abilities!!

That makes no sense. He's already under contract for this season, and they don't really have the cap room to up his salary for goodwill. He'll either sign a long-term deal (which will give the Giants some cap flexibility) or remain on his current deal.

In comment 13976062 ZogZerg said:

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Yes, OBJ has already stated that he's not playing unless he gets a new deal. And, I don't blame him

I know that’s been speculated but where was that publicly declared?

Mostly speculation.....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000922994/article/odell-beckham-wont-play-without-contract-extension

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=23453143

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2766621-odell-beckham-jr-wont-play-without-new-contract-ian-rapoport-understands

https://www.tsn.ca/nfl/draft/will-obj-play-in-preseason-without-new-deal~1390849

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/26/new-york-giants-odell-beckham-not-step-foot-field-contract-extension/

In comment 13976346 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13976145 1bobstevensbob1 said: Quote: w/incentives thrown in - for one year with a promise that if he plays up to snuff then they'll redo a long-term deal at seasons end. Pre-seasons nice but the real proof on how well a guy really performs is in the meaningful games. No way I pay him big and long-term before I see him play in real games. The Gmen should be willing to take a smaller hit to be sure they don't take a longer hit that doesn't pay off. On paper, this type of injury and OBJ's young age shouldn't hurt his future production but an ankle injury to a runner can limit their abilities!! That makes no sense. He's already under contract for this season, and they don't really have the cap room to up his salary for goodwill. He'll either sign a long-term deal (which will give the Giants some cap flexibility) or remain on his current deal.

I was thinking the same thing. Also, 'a promise'? I wouldn't trust my employer with 'a promise'. If OBJ has half a brain, he shouldn't either.

till he demonstrates what he is can do on the field and in our offense. Why would he be? Cruz and Nicks never came back from their injuries and think we learned a lesson there. Neither did JPP. Tough business but thats the way is unfortunately.

In comment 13976371 Doomster said:

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Mostly speculation.....

Right. It's being assumed without any direct quotes from OBJ.

Don't get me wrong, I would imagine that that is a likely plan. And it's a bold move. But I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth first...

OBJ still has a lot to prove. His one playoff game he didn't perform and his off field habits will eventually get him in trouble.
Hopefully he performs well, cuts out the antics and proves to be reliable.
Then .... pay him. but not the highest in league. $30,000,000 for a receiver?
$ 15,000,000 +/- year.

were on a different level. JPP's was permanent, Cruz suffered an injury NOBODY comes back from 100% and Nicks injury to his foot was at best problematic to recover from. All the published reports about OBJ stated he is expected to make a full recovery.

In any case, the logical outcome is he will NOT risk further injury by playing without an extension. The team probably expects that, and will have to make their best call on him. They can always structure a deal that works for both parties, but I can't see him taking the field vs Jacksonville without this being resolved. Doesn't make any sense otherwise.

I REALLY don't think OBJ wants to sit out. The competitive juices flow too strongly in him and he really is a good teammate. Hopefully management can work this out for everyone's good.

Is he now ? That is the is the question, a good GM has to answer. Betting all his measurables have gone down. Not the same player anymore IMO. Guy is looking for QB money, Lets see mesurables, doubt they are there.But DG will want to know as he should.

TMS- the injuries those three had
Dave on the UWS : 5/27/2018 2:12 pm : link : reply
were on a different level. JPP's was permanent, Cruz suffered an injury NOBODY comes back from 100% and Nicks injury to his foot was at best problematic to recover from. All the published reports about OBJ stated he is expected to make a full recovery.

In any case, the logical outcome is he will NOT risk further injury by playing without an extension. The team probably expects that, and will have to make their best call on him. They can always structure a deal that works for both parties, but I can't see him taking the field vs Jacksonville without this being resolved. Doesn't make any sense otherwise.

Come opening game, he WILL PLAY.....or he won't get paid.....

My worry is, he is under contract.....but what will his attitude be without a new one? If he has a slight injury, will he go out and play? Will he play defensively, rather than offensively, to minimize possible risk out there? If his head is not completely in the game, this offense will not be clicking on all cylinders.....

I hope for his sake, and the Giants, that he is 100%.....that he goes out there with an "I'll show you attitude", and demonstrates that he is back.....and once the Giants see this, then negotiations can begin in earnest....

In comment 13976161 Marty in Albany said:

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[There are perhaps 3 people who don't realize that I'm being sarcastic. So for their benefit, I'm saying that we are forced to keep OBJ because he is the only decent WR we have.]

Then why didn't you just say that!!!

I hope for his sake, and the Giants, that he is 100%.....that he goes out there with an "I'll show you attitude", and demonstrates that he is back.....and once the Giants see this, then negotiations can begin in earnest....

In comment 13976345 Giant John said:

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And make sure the ankle holds up to the rigors of the game. Too much money to screw this up.

Think management and DG think like you do. We will see.

In comment 13975968 Gman11 said:

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It's possible.

That looks like an "infinity" sign to me. As good as Odell is infinity is a pretty steep price to pay, especially with Collins contract also coming up.

the hit financially. Lots of these players and agents see the second contract as a golden parachute to a better life. DG is too smart for that IMO. We will see.