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NFT: Re: Disney's The Black Hole

jnoble : 5/26/2018 8:10 pm
So anyone else like me part of the cult following this movie has? Admittedly its got its share of issues...clunky dialog, stiff acting, an odd cast (Anthony Perkins Maximillion Schnell and Earnest Borgnine in particular) totally disregards the laws of space physics at the end and what would happen to people if they were sucked into a real black hole yet I still consider it unfairly overlooked and underrated. Visually its impressive especially pre-CGI and its got this dark undertone to it and themes of religion and man playing God that I really enjoy. The ending has been discussed and debated and interpretated on internet message boards since the internet first started
Its very dark for a Disney movie at the time.  
Tom from LI : 5/26/2018 9:00 pm : link
I really liked it and I remember seeing it in the theater when I was a kid.

I really thought it was a really good movie. I actually saw a pop vinyl of Vincent and Maximilian recently in a local collectibles store.

All of those movies and tv shows rode on the back of Star Wars..
RE: Its very dark for a Disney movie at the time.  
jnoble : 5/26/2018 9:05 pm : link
In comment 13976239 Tom from LI said:
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I really liked it and I remember seeing it in the theater when I was a kid.

I really thought it was a really good movie. I actually saw a pop vinyl of Vincent and Maximilian recently in a local collectibles store.

All of those movies and tv shows rode on the back of Star Wars..


Thing is TBH was never intended to be an off shoot or in competition with Star Wars. But Disney did try and aquire the camera set up Lucas used in his sci-fi film and after being denied they created their own.
Maximillion scared the hell out of me as a kid. Still does a little. Way more intimidating than Darth Vader mainly because he doesn't speak
As far as bring dark  
jnoble : 5/26/2018 9:10 pm : link
Thematically as well as visually and also containing the most violent death in any Disney movie ever when Max disembowled Dr Durant with a spinning blade (somehow bloodless too....Disney did have their limits for a PG film) TBH led to the creation of an off-shoot film division for their more mature oriented movies
yeah I agree about Maximilian  
Tom from LI : 5/26/2018 9:10 pm : link
the whole hell scene at the end..and Dr. Hans Reinhardt being trapped inside of him.. the as they pan out you see all of the crew members being trapped in hell with them..

creepy..
here is the ending  
Tom from LI : 5/26/2018 9:15 pm : link
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creepy - ( New Window )
Check out redlettermedia 's interstellar review  
Bockman : 5/26/2018 9:27 pm : link
Lots of references to the black hole
RE: yeah I agree about Maximilian  
jnoble : 5/26/2018 9:28 pm : link
In comment 13976247 Tom from LI said:
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the whole hell scene at the end..and Dr. Hans Reinhardt being trapped inside of him.. the as they pan out you see all of the crew members being trapped in hell with them..

creepy..


My interpretation of that part was it was all a hallucination in Kate's mind while in a trance like state spinning through the hole. The camera zooms in on her eyes just before that part as an obvious reference to it being a dream of sorts. She imagines Reinhart in an ironic punishment for killing his crew (she did tell him "if there is any justice that black hole will be your grave" earlier in the movie) and also Borgnines comment that it was like "Dante's Inferno" . But in reality, Reinhart died on the ship after being pinned under a screen and Max was rendered unless after being (ironically) drilled out himself
Maximillion Schnell  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/26/2018 9:30 pm : link
He's one of those actors who can be really good or not so good, depending the role.

He was superb in Judgement at Nuremberg. But there are other movies where he's just so over the top.
RE: Maximillion Schnell  
jnoble : 5/26/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13976266 Eric from BBI said:
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He's one of those actors who can be really good or not so good, depending the role.

He was superb in Judgement at Nuremberg. But there are other movies where he's just so over the top.

Oh he chewed the scenery pretty well in TBH but I think it worked in the sense that he was playing a character who was eccentric and full of himself and over the top. It also contrasted with the rather flat performances from everybody else. I read that the director was intimidated by who he was working with and didn't insist on many second or third takes. I also read that the crew was supposed to wear space suits at the end when they climbed out of a rupture in the hull of the Cygnus to board another ship in the void of space but didn't like them and refused to put them on hence the "how are they talking and breathing in the vacuum of space???" scene towards the end lol
Dr. Larry London...  
Crispino : 5/26/2018 10:26 pm : link
in The Freshman. He was great in that role.
He was also in a dreary 1960s version of Hamlet  
jnoble : 5/26/2018 10:36 pm : link
Which MST3K did an episode around in season 10
I saw it as a child...  
Amazinz : 5/26/2018 11:02 pm : link
...about 7 years old and loved it in large part because of my dad.

Have been meaning for years to re-watch it as an adult but haven't gotten around to it.
RE: here is the ending  
short lease : 5/28/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13976249 Tom from LI said:
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. creepy - ( New Window )


I couldn't watch the whole thing ... quit it half way through.
I saw it as a kid  
Matt M. : 5/30/2018 2:11 pm : link
I remember that I liked it, but I haven't thought about that movie pretty much since I saw it.
Have you seen  
Mr. Bungle : 5/30/2018 2:30 pm : link
this "modern" trailer?
link - ( New Window )
Loved that movie as a kid, I've been meaning to re-watch  
jcn56 : 5/30/2018 3:33 pm : link
it again for some time now. A few years ago, there was a remake in production, but they gave up on it. Turns out it's too dark for present day Disney (if my parents had known how dark it was back then, they probably would never have taken me to see it in the first place).

The effects were extremely cheesy, but I was a Star Wars fiend and would watch anything space back then.
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