word is the Mets are leaning heavily toward drafting Florida 3rd Baseman Jonathan India or Witchita State 3rd Basebman Alex Bohm. If we do so, history shows we could be on to something pretty good:
The list of top 10 first round picks since 1987 include:
Phil Nevin
Robin Ventura
Troy Glaus
Pat Burrell
Mark Teixera
Alex Gordon
Ryan Zimmerman
Ryan Braun
Evan Longoria
Anthony Rendon
Pedro Alvarez
Kris Bryant
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CMicks3110 : 10:06 am
word is the Mets are leaning heavily toward drafting Florida 3rd Baseman Jonathan India or Witchita State 3rd Basebman Alex Bohm. If we do so, history shows we could be on to something pretty good:
The list of top 10 first round picks since 1987 include:
Phil Nevin
Robin Ventura
Troy Glaus
Pat Burrell
Mark Teixera
Alex Gordon
Ryan Zimmerman
Ryan Braun
Evan Longoria
Anthony Rendon
Pedro Alvarez
Kris Bryant
It would be a huge surprise
Jay on the Island : 10:10 am : link : reply
if Bohm fell to 6.
Sandy
PatchoguePete : 10:13 am : link : reply
Will fubar this for sure. I hope Omar is making this pick
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Jay on the Island : 10:20 am : link : reply
Ignore the dupe.
Watch us save money with the first pick
Mike in NY : 10:45 am : link : reply
Overdraft players who did well in Cape Cod League with 3rd through 5th round picks and then draft College Senior relievers for rounds 6-10
RE: Watch us save money with the first pick
Shecky : 10:54 am : link : reply
In comment 13976422 Mike in NY said:
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Overdraft players who did well in Cape Cod League with 3rd through 5th round picks and then draft College Senior relievers for rounds 6-10
If you include the 2nd rounder, I’d sign up for that right now actually
RE: RE: Watch us save money with the first pick
Mike in NY : 10:55 am : link : reply
In comment 13976426 Shecky said:
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In comment 13976422 Mike in NY said:
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Overdraft players who did well in Cape Cod League with 3rd through 5th round picks and then draft College Senior relievers for rounds 6-10
If you include the 2nd rounder, I’d sign up for that right now actually
Oh right, 2nd Round is token HS player
RE: Watch us save money with the first pick
Jay on the Island : 11:12 am : link : reply
In comment 13976422 Mike in NY said:
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Overdraft players who did well in Cape Cod League with 3rd through 5th round picks and then draft College Senior relievers for rounds 6-10
Most teams use rounds 6-10 for senior signs in order to save money for the early rounds and attempt to go overslot for a couple of players after round 10. The Braves have had two great drafts in a row and they followed this formula.
RE: RE: Watch us save money with the first pick
Mike in NY : 11:17 am : link : reply
In comment 13976433 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13976422 Mike in NY said:
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Overdraft players who did well in Cape Cod League with 3rd through 5th round picks and then draft College Senior relievers for rounds 6-10
Most teams use rounds 6-10 for senior signs in order to save money for the early rounds and attempt to go overslot for a couple of players after round 10. The Braves have had two great drafts in a row and they followed this formula.
Except the Braves have maximized their budgets to take high upside players early on. Mets have wasted picks in the first five rounds on players whose upside is utility IF, depth OF, back end of the rotation starter. These are the players you should be getting from your senior signs, not your first 5 picks
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Jay on the Island : 11:28 am : link : reply
In comment 13976435 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13976433 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13976422 Mike in NY said:
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Overdraft players who did well in Cape Cod League with 3rd through 5th round picks and then draft College Senior relievers for rounds 6-10
Most teams use rounds 6-10 for senior signs in order to save money for the early rounds and attempt to go overslot for a couple of players after round 10. The Braves have had two great drafts in a row and they followed this formula.
Except the Braves have maximized their budgets to take high upside players early on. Mets have wasted picks in the first five rounds on players whose upside is utility IF, depth OF, back end of the rotation starter. These are the players you should be getting from your senior signs, not your first 5 picks
They also had the luxury of a top 3 pick and a top 5 pick which came with high bonus pools. Two years ago they acquired two competitve balance picks to add more money to their bonus pool so that they could sign four prep pitchers Ian Anderson, Joey Wentz, Kyle Muller, Bryse Wilson. They used the $2+ million saved from Anderson to go overslot for those three.
RE: RE: RE: Watch us save money with the first pick
Jay on the Island : 11:37 am : link : reply
In comment 13976435 Mike in NY said:
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Except the Braves have maximized their budgets to take high upside players early on. Mets have wasted picks in the first five rounds on players whose upside is utility IF, depth OF, back end of the rotation starter. These are the players you should be getting from your senior signs, not your first 5 picks
I agree with you here.
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Mike in NY : 11:43 am : link : reply
In comment 13976450 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13976435 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13976433 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13976422 Mike in NY said:
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Overdraft players who did well in Cape Cod League with 3rd through 5th round picks and then draft College Senior relievers for rounds 6-10
Most teams use rounds 6-10 for senior signs in order to save money for the early rounds and attempt to go overslot for a couple of players after round 10. The Braves have had two great drafts in a row and they followed this formula.
Except the Braves have maximized their budgets to take high upside players early on. Mets have wasted picks in the first five rounds on players whose upside is utility IF, depth OF, back end of the rotation starter. These are the players you should be getting from your senior signs, not your first 5 picks
They also had the luxury of a top 3 pick and a top 5 pick which came with high bonus pools. Two years ago they acquired two competitve balance picks to add more money to their bonus pool so that they could sign four prep pitchers Ian Anderson, Joey Wentz, Kyle Muller, Bryse Wilson. They used the $2+ million saved from Anderson to go overslot for those three.
Not quite the same, but two years ago the Mets had 19 and 31. Despite going underslot at 31 with Anthony Kay they came away with Justin Dunn, Kay, Pete Alonso, Blake Tiberi, Michael Paez, and Colby Woodmansee in the first five rounds. Woodmansee was recently cut and the only one who looks any good of the rest is Alonso, a slugger with questionable defense at 1B.
Brady Singer
Vanzetti : 11:45 am : link : reply
Or if he is gone, Matt Lbertore
Madrigal is probably the best guarantee to make it to the majors but his size is just such a limiting factor
India doesn’t excite me
Mike - come on now
Shecky : 11:48 am : link : reply
Kay was a strategic undershot now? Part of that annual strategy?
And they never swing for the fences for tools, yet you criticize a Dunn pick?
Of all drafts to be negative on, I don’t think that’s the one of a long laundry list to choose...
I understand the negativity around here lately. But being negative for the sake of being negative grows tiresome
RE: Mike - come on now
Mike in NY : 11:59 am : link : reply
In comment 13976472 Shecky said:
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Kay was a strategic undershot now? Part of that annual strategy?
And they never swing for the fences for tools, yet you criticize a Dunn pick?
Of all drafts to be negative on, I don’t think that’s the one of a long laundry list to choose...
I understand the negativity around here lately. But being negative for the sake of being negative grows tiresome
Dunn had a fastball, but questionable secondary offerings and even in college the warning signs were there regarding his inability to get opposite handed batters out. Even when he was drafted there was a lot of concern that he would end up a reliever and even if he was a starter he wasn’t a top of the rotation guy. If you are drafting starters, especially in Round 1, you want top of the rotation upside
RE: Brady Singer
Jay on the Island : 12:01 pm : link : reply
In comment 13976468 Vanzetti said:
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Or if he is gone, Matt Lbertore
Madrigal is probably the best guarantee to make it to the majors but his size is just such a limiting factor
India doesn’t excite me
I like Madrigal and Liberatore and I am hoping one of them falls to Atlanta. Madrigal is a fantastic hitter with the only concern being whether or not he will develop more power.
Rosario
DanMetroMan : 12:03 pm : link : reply
and Smith having such meager first MLB experiences really has really added to the negative outlook from the fanbase (rightfully so).
From HS ranks
Mike in NY : 12:06 pm : link : reply
I really like Carter Stewart as well as Liberatore. Personally I think the Mets will go with India, but I prefer the two prep arms
RE: From HS ranks
Jay on the Island : 12:14 pm : link : reply
In comment 13976485 Mike in NY said:
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I really like Carter Stewart as well as Liberatore. Personally I think the Mets will go with India, but I prefer the two prep arms
I love Stewart. He has a nasty FB that touches 98, has a ridiculous 12/6 curveball with an "insane spin rate." He is developing his changeup which could become an above average pitch as well. His control is decent for a big pitcher but that will likely improve as he gains experience. He has front of the rotation stuff. Even if he doesn't develop as hoped he should still be a very good late inning reliever with his FB/CB combo.
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Why is Christian James being called up to AA, why didn't they promote peterson or kay and then James to single-a
I still like the tall lefty Liberatore
But either would be a great pick
I still like the tall lefty Liberatore
But either would be a great pick
Stewart is just 18 so he will be adding size to his frame which usually adds some velocity. Carter is already touchign 98 so imagine this kid developing more velocity and command? He has a very high ceiling but with all prep players there are always concerns.
Shecky who are you hoping for, and who do you not want at 6?
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Some said Dunn reminded them of Goode lol
Shecky who are you hoping for, and who do you not want at 6?
A trade down for multiple second rounders
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In comment 13976613 Shecky said:
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Some said Dunn reminded them of Goode lol
Shecky who are you hoping for, and who do you not want at 6?
A trade down for multiple second rounders
I really wish that MLB would allow trading up/down in the draft. Trademark Shecky response.
4 ip 3 h 1 bb 4 ks.
was 90-92 i heard. lots of ground balls.
Gimenez pushing for .300, with more SB's.
David Peterson 6.2 IP, 7H, 2ER, 0 BB's, 7K's.
maybe his 2nd worst start for COL, but still good and still should be in STL.
mcneil
peterson
kay
gimenez
mcneil
peterson
kay
gimenez
Alonso and McNeil are in AA.
Why is Christian James being called up to AA, why didn't they promote peterson or kay and then James to single-a
What I’ve heard is that the Bing needed a spot starter for someone that needed to miss a start. That guy is back in action and Christian is flying back to Port St.Lucie.
Bart, Bohm, Madrigal, India, Liberatore, i think swaggerty is a sleeper but suspect a team like the Cardinals would develop him into a star, Stewart. McLanahan scares me
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who do you like in the draft?
Bart, Bohm, Madrigal, India, Liberatore, i think swaggerty is a sleeper but suspect a team like the Cardinals would develop him into a star, Stewart. McLanahan scares me
If Mize, Bohm, Madrigal, Singer, and Bart go Top 5 in some order who do you take at 6?
There are some really bad teams in MLB and even if the Mets have a disastrous rest of the regular season they still likely won't pick top 3, top 5 would even be tough.