But he is probably a B+/A- pass protector, B/B- run blocker, at worst. It's been quite some time since we could say that of any guard on this OLine.
It's early in FA, still some very good players out there. If they get to sign (after trade) Burns (hopefully) they will need that money they would have paid McKinney
Singletary played with top QBs, big passing games, and good Off Lines. Barkley played with complete crap. So the fact that over the past few years the stats are close don't float my boat. I think Singletary can expect a big drop off in stats.
Now because the Giants are the Giants, it may not really matter and you can be happy about saving $5M per year. However Singletary is not as good as Barkley
247 carries for 962 and 6 TD's
Avg yards /carry 3.9
Singletary
216 carries for 898 and 4 TD's
Avg yards / carry 4.2
The same or better production for a 3rd of the cost? Anyone go to business school? Not many business owners I know wouldn't sign up for that and consider it a win.
At the very least, he's been more dependable than Barkley. No he isn't the same back, he doesn't have the big play ability that Saquon does, he won't take over a game.
What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.
Exactly. SB is not SB anymore. Look at the last 3 years:
SB - 43 games 704-2867-18 4.07 ypc
DS - 50 games 581-2587-16 4.45 ypc
Singletary played with top QBs, big passing games, and good Off Lines. Barkley played with complete crap. So the fact that over the past few years the stats are close don't float my boat. I think Singletary can expect a big drop off in stats.
Now because the Giants are the Giants, it may not really matter and you can be happy about saving $5M per year. However Singletary is not as good as Barkley
This is what a rebuild looks like. We have many needs, can't afford all the expensive shiny toys. How much winning did we do with SB?
He's a complementary back. Or part of a committee. Relax.
Of course! We will all enjoy those 8 carry 35 yard, 2 catch 13 yard games that have made Singletary a household name. And all for a mere 6.5 million a year!
At the very least, he's been more dependable than Barkley. No he isn't the same back, he doesn't have the big play ability that Saquon does, he won't take over a game.
What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.
Exactly. SB is not SB anymore. Look at the last 3 years:
SB - 43 games 704-2867-18 4.07 ypc
DS - 50 games 581-2587-16 4.45 ypc
meaningless stats without context. I'm not saying the Giants were wrong moving on, but taking a RB's production in the Buffalo offense and comparing it the crap that is here, is apples and oranges.
Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
RE: Not a great signing - and it offsets Barkley's compensatory pick
Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
RE: RE: Not a great signing - and it offsets Barkley's compensatory pick
Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
We couldn’t negotiate with Onwenu today and maybe they didn’t like Hunt.
Regardless you already made your mind up before he even played a snap for the Giants. Seems reasonable on your end.
here are the some important #'s i look at comparing barkley/singletary
barkley was better in passing game and better in pass pro.
the numbers above were basically barkley's worst healthy season, whereas for singletary it was probably his best season considering it was his highest volume (only year over 200 carries).
i think singletary at the amount they gave him is pretty close to the best pivot they could have made, but they made a mistake not extending barkley at more of a discount when they had a chance. i doubt anyone sees the 2018 version of barkley again but with a better OL id expect him to have a better year than 2023. hope for the best with singletary but im not sure that's in him (which is why he got paid basically half what barkley did today).
RE: RE: RE: RE: Not a great signing - and it offsets Barkley's compensatory pick
Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
We couldn’t negotiate with Onwenu today and maybe they didn’t like Hunt.
Regardless you already made your mind up before he even played a snap for the Giants. Seems reasonable on your end.
Why aren't you criticizing my "made up mind" on Burns? Or Eluemenor? Ahhh, it is only when I don't agree with what the Giants do that you find offensive. Gotcha slick.
What you think about any player. You obviously more know that Schoen on this guy. Even though he seems like an upgrade on a pretty good contract where we desperately needed an upgrade in pass protection.
What you think about any player. You obviously more know that Schoen on this guy. Even though he seems like an upgrade on a pretty good contract where we desperately needed an upgrade in pass protection.
But I’ll let your expert analysis take over.
You'll notice that I don't ever criticize someone else's opinions. Including yours. I respect them. As I respect yours. You might give it a shot?
Am I missing something or didn't Devin have a good '23 season?
Apparently those are just more meaningless crap stats. Bottom line is even if SB magically has an All-Pro year with the Eagles, he was never going to have that season with us. It is a poor allocation of resources to pay SB & X $30 mil per year when we have some many other holes to fill. Me personally, I would rather build in the trenches so we don't get pushed around all game anymore. I'd gladly trade SB & X for that. Today is a big step in that direction.
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Is the last “premier” back we’ve signed. He got 4 years 15mm. This is a better deal for a better back in every conceivable way. I have no idea how people are unhappy with this signing.
He’s a much more efficient RB than Barkley. Barkley is fools gold. Philly whiffed hard not locking swift down long term and Howie just split 10’s with the dealer showing a 6.
RE: RE: RE: Not a great signing - and it offsets Barkley's compensatory pick
Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
Takes two to tango. Also Hunt signed a huge deal with Carolina.
Runyan is graded as a good player at LG and thats where he will play, and under a new OL coach. Glow was okay last year and terrible in '23. Benched for a reason.
Or is PFF the Pope of NFL analysis? Sy gave good word on the young man.
I really like this move. And not just because he’s not as expensive as Barkley. Singletary is the one guy I wanted the Giants to sign if Barkley departed. He may have been a bit of a disappointment in Buffalo (though not bad) but he was really good with the Texans last year. Ran for 900 yards when they really didn’t start giving him the ball until week 7 or so. Was brought in as a backup to a promising Dameon Pierce (who had a good rookie year) and basically outplayed Pierce and took his job. Singletary had some monster games down the stretch and took some pressure off CJ Stroud. If we get that version of him (and a competent line) he could become a fan favorite.
is not the talent that Barkley is. He's not the homerun threat that SB was when Barkley first got drafted. But one thing is for sure: Singletary doesn't tiptoe behind the line. He's a decent one cut runner that plants his foot and hits the crease decisively to take what yardage he can. Knows Dab's system and doesn't have stone hands either. Also, better injury history than either SB or Breida.
It's not a sexy signing and won't stop JS from drafting a RB if one he likes falls to us. He can split time in the backfield with Gray or whomever we draft.
1500 yards in Philly, but he wouldn't with the Giants. Singletary will be better on those short yardage plays than Saquon even though he may not have as many splash plays. The splash plays are nice, but keeping drives going by converting that 3rd and 1 is better.
in the draft following BPA. The Bills let him go and so did his last team.
Bigger concern is the OL and the Daboll scheme imv which does not emphasis a top run game via the RB's. QB's have needed to provide 25-30% if rushing production.
At the very least, he's been more dependable than Barkley. No he isn't the same back, he doesn't have the big play ability that Saquon does, he won't take over a game.
What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.
Exactly. SB is not SB anymore. Look at the last 3 years:
SB - 43 games 704-2867-18 4.07 ypc
DS - 50 games 581-2587-16 4.45 ypc
meaningless stats without context. I'm not saying the Giants were wrong moving on, but taking a RB's production in the Buffalo offense and comparing it the crap that is here, is apples and oranges.
To be fair, most of the yard from Barkley came from big plays and running for no to minimal gain and singletary was the much more consistent yards per carry. He consistently picked up positive yardage as where Saquon pounded 10 or 11 times a game before gaining a chunk play.
The giants were 35-65 with Saquon…they need to build from the trenches. Which we are doing. While skill position players are the fluff, the linemen are the stuff.
The dude in 3 years scored 66 TDs at Florida Atlantic…over 4000 yards…..averaged 6.0 per carry. Plus, he can catch very well.
He may be only 5’9”, but he is a solid 200 pounds…has great moves and is elusive. He will be a fan favorite, I’m sure.
Thank you Joe Schoen….
I agree with this. As has been mentioned before he reminds of Joe Morris. Both 5'7" . Joe ran at 190lbs Devin I believe just over 200. I loved him with the Bills., Quick to the LOS. No dancing right to the hole. Not looking for the home run but certainly capable with adequate blocking but looking to move the chains. Hard to spot behind those big lineman and fights for every inch. Not as fast as Saquon but he's very quick. No doubt he work with one of our other backs . I think we 're gonna really like him.
We are probably going to have the worst offense in the league
We need to spend our resources elsewhere. High draft pick/spending too much for RBs is stupid. This isn't the 80s or HS football where the RB is feature of the offense.
The average NFL Jag RB also knows how to hit holes properly, otherwise they wouldn't have made to the NFL. One of my biggest beefs with Saquon was his shitty vision, which he could get away with by dancing in college since he was touched by god, but it hurt him at the NFL level.
Singletary has fumbled less frequently than a typical RB the past two years. One fumble every 100+ touches is well outside the "Fumbler" category. Could he regress? Sure, but are we really supposed to stress about some fumbles in 2021?
Giant fans, of all people, should know that fumbles are a solvable problem. See Tiki Barber circa 2004.
As for Barkley, while he seldom fumbled, he had a penchant for disastrous, often boneheaded plays at the worst possible times. That included a horrific fumble against Green Bay, the backbreaking drop against Dallas, as well as some shocking lack of situational awareness in 2022 like the four-minute drive against JAX where he repeatedly went out of bounds.
The Giants clearly didn't want to pay a premium price for a RB. For half of the cost of the franchise tag and even more of a savings fronm Saquon's Philly contract, they got a guy who had 1000 yards rushing last year and averaged more YPC than Barkley. Do I misinterpret that to mean he is better than Barkley? No. But, his production is better than average at a much cheaper price.
I am assuming a RB will be taken somewhere in the draft and there will be competition all around. I doubt Singletary gets the mother load of touches like Barkley, but he probably gets the majority in the backfield (15-20 total touches per game). His production was actually fairly comparable to Barkley last year, so not a bad deal.
He's a complementary back. Or part of a committee. Relax.
Of course! We will all enjoy those 8 carry 35 yard, 2 catch 13 yard games that have made Singletary a household name. And all for a mere 6.5 million a year!
Funny, that stat line looks like a lot of Barkley games during his career here.
He's a complementary back. Or part of a committee. Relax.
Of course! We will all enjoy those 8 carry 35 yard, 2 catch 13 yard games that have made Singletary a household name. And all for a mere 6.5 million a year!
Funny, that stat line looks like a lot of Barkley games during his career here.
Interesting that 3 of the 4 times he got more than 20 carries last year, he had 100+ each game and averaged a shade under 5 YPC. Is he great? No. But, he is more than a serviceable back.
I would have preferred Aaron Jones over Singletary for $7M
Familiar with Daboll and has been relatively healthy. Smart, tough, and dependable.
Will not be their primary back. But, as a complementary back he will be an asset. Definitely adds value which is the goal of the FA.
Lose excellent players
Sign mediocre
Repeat and stay shit
LOL, what 'excellent' players.
McKinney? Barkley? lol
It's early in FA, still some very good players out there. If they get to sign (after trade) Burns (hopefully) they will need that money they would have paid McKinney
Our GM is not very good.
Now because the Giants are the Giants, it may not really matter and you can be happy about saving $5M per year. However Singletary is not as good as Barkley
247 carries for 962 and 6 TD's
Avg yards /carry 3.9
Singletary
216 carries for 898 and 4 TD's
Avg yards / carry 4.2
The same or better production for a 3rd of the cost? Anyone go to business school? Not many business owners I know wouldn't sign up for that and consider it a win.
What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.
Exactly. SB is not SB anymore. Look at the last 3 years:
SB - 43 games 704-2867-18 4.07 ypc
DS - 50 games 581-2587-16 4.45 ypc
Now because the Giants are the Giants, it may not really matter and you can be happy about saving $5M per year. However Singletary is not as good as Barkley
This is what a rebuild looks like. We have many needs, can't afford all the expensive shiny toys. How much winning did we do with SB?
Games played since 2019:
Barkley 58
Singletary 78
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At the very least, he's been more dependable than Barkley. No he isn't the same back, he doesn't have the big play ability that Saquon does, he won't take over a game.
What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.
Exactly. SB is not SB anymore. Look at the last 3 years:
SB - 43 games 704-2867-18 4.07 ypc
DS - 50 games 581-2587-16 4.45 ypc
meaningless stats without context. I'm not saying the Giants were wrong moving on, but taking a RB's production in the Buffalo offense and comparing it the crap that is here, is apples and oranges.
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Devin Singletary has averaged more yards per carry than Saquon every single year for the last 5 years
He may be only 5’9”, but he is a solid 200 pounds…has great moves and is elusive. He will be a fan favorite, I’m sure.
Thank you Joe Schoen….
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define constant.. the team has like 4 people who were on Buffalo. out of 58 players on a roster. 6% of the players.. really??
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
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Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
Cant complain. Not really. The offense sucked anyway might as well devote big resources (burns) to the D which I’ve been screaming for.
Cant complain. Not really. The offense sucked anyway might as well devote big resources (burns) to the D which I’ve been screaming for.
I'd like to pair Singletary with a power runner, been missing that on offense for some time.
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Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
We couldn’t negotiate with Onwenu today and maybe they didn’t like Hunt.
Regardless you already made your mind up before he even played a snap for the Giants. Seems reasonable on your end.
barkley 2022 = 32
barkley 2023 = 26
singletary 2023 = 23
yards after contact
barkley 2022 2.78
barkley 2023 2.91
singletary 2023 2.85
missed tackles forced
barkley 2022 40
barkley 2023 31
singletary 30
fumbles
barkley 2022 1
barkley 2023 2
singletary 1
barkley was better in passing game and better in pass pro.
the numbers above were basically barkley's worst healthy season, whereas for singletary it was probably his best season considering it was his highest volume (only year over 200 carries).
i think singletary at the amount they gave him is pretty close to the best pivot they could have made, but they made a mistake not extending barkley at more of a discount when they had a chance. i doubt anyone sees the 2018 version of barkley again but with a better OL id expect him to have a better year than 2023. hope for the best with singletary but im not sure that's in him (which is why he got paid basically half what barkley did today).
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Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
We couldn’t negotiate with Onwenu today and maybe they didn’t like Hunt.
Regardless you already made your mind up before he even played a snap for the Giants. Seems reasonable on your end.
Why aren't you criticizing my "made up mind" on Burns? Or Eluemenor? Ahhh, it is only when I don't agree with what the Giants do that you find offensive. Gotcha slick.
But I’ll let your expert analysis take over.
But I’ll let your expert analysis take over.
You'll notice that I don't ever criticize someone else's opinions. Including yours. I respect them. As I respect yours. You might give it a shot?
Apparently those are just more meaningless crap stats. Bottom line is even if SB magically has an All-Pro year with the Eagles, he was never going to have that season with us. It is a poor allocation of resources to pay SB & X $30 mil per year when we have some many other holes to fill. Me personally, I would rather build in the trenches so we don't get pushed around all game anymore. I'd gladly trade SB & X for that. Today is a big step in that direction.
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He’s a much more efficient RB than Barkley. Barkley is fools gold. Philly whiffed hard not locking swift down long term and Howie just split 10’s with the dealer showing a 6.
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Singletary is a JAG - not worth this contract. Feels like another Sterling Shepard type of guy - good locker room but as middling a talent and non-difference maker as there possibly is.
And can we stop with the criticizing of opinions that are not gushing ebullience for the mighty Joe Schoen? The Burns trade and the Eluemenor signing made a lot of sense. The Runyan and Singletary signings did not. It is an opinion. It is not whining or being a baby. Some of you guys should just crawl up Joe Schoen's ass and get it over with already!
Runyan is one of the best pass blocking guards in the league. How in the world is he a JAG?
He is a better pass blocker and worse run blocker than Glowinski who graded higher than Runyan in 2023. If the goal was to improve the guard position, this wasn't the solution. Hunt or Onwenu would have been better options.
Takes two to tango. Also Hunt signed a huge deal with Carolina.
Runyan is graded as a good player at LG and thats where he will play, and under a new OL coach. Glow was okay last year and terrible in '23. Benched for a reason.
Or is PFF the Pope of NFL analysis? Sy gave good word on the young man.
It's not a sexy signing and won't stop JS from drafting a RB if one he likes falls to us. He can split time in the backfield with Gray or whomever we draft.
Bigger concern is the OL and the Daboll scheme imv which does not emphasis a top run game via the RB's. QB's have needed to provide 25-30% if rushing production.
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At the very least, he's been more dependable than Barkley. No he isn't the same back, he doesn't have the big play ability that Saquon does, he won't take over a game.
What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.
Exactly. SB is not SB anymore. Look at the last 3 years:
SB - 43 games 704-2867-18 4.07 ypc
DS - 50 games 581-2587-16 4.45 ypc
meaningless stats without context. I'm not saying the Giants were wrong moving on, but taking a RB's production in the Buffalo offense and comparing it the crap that is here, is apples and oranges.
To be fair, most of the yard from Barkley came from big plays and running for no to minimal gain and singletary was the much more consistent yards per carry. He consistently picked up positive yardage as where Saquon pounded 10 or 11 times a game before gaining a chunk play.
Pacheco was a 7th rounder.
The giants were 35-65 with Saquon…they need to build from the trenches. Which we are doing. While skill position players are the fluff, the linemen are the stuff.
He may be only 5’9”, but he is a solid 200 pounds…has great moves and is elusive. He will be a fan favorite, I’m sure.
Thank you Joe Schoen….
The average NFL Jag RB also knows how to hit holes properly, otherwise they wouldn't have made to the NFL. One of my biggest beefs with Saquon was his shitty vision, which he could get away with by dancing in college since he was touched by god, but it hurt him at the NFL level.
Singletary has fumbled less frequently than a typical RB the past two years. One fumble every 100+ touches is well outside the "Fumbler" category. Could he regress? Sure, but are we really supposed to stress about some fumbles in 2021?
Giant fans, of all people, should know that fumbles are a solvable problem. See Tiki Barber circa 2004.
As for Barkley, while he seldom fumbled, he had a penchant for disastrous, often boneheaded plays at the worst possible times. That included a horrific fumble against Green Bay, the backbreaking drop against Dallas, as well as some shocking lack of situational awareness in 2022 like the four-minute drive against JAX where he repeatedly went out of bounds.
I am assuming a RB will be taken somewhere in the draft and there will be competition all around. I doubt Singletary gets the mother load of touches like Barkley, but he probably gets the majority in the backfield (15-20 total touches per game). His production was actually fairly comparable to Barkley last year, so not a bad deal.
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He's a complementary back. Or part of a committee. Relax.
Of course! We will all enjoy those 8 carry 35 yard, 2 catch 13 yard games that have made Singletary a household name. And all for a mere 6.5 million a year!
Funny, that stat line looks like a lot of Barkley games during his career here.
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He's a complementary back. Or part of a committee. Relax.
Of course! We will all enjoy those 8 carry 35 yard, 2 catch 13 yard games that have made Singletary a household name. And all for a mere 6.5 million a year!
Funny, that stat line looks like a lot of Barkley games during his career here.
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