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Chris in Philly : 3/11/2024 4:07 pm
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Exactly  
hitdog42 : 3/11/2024 4:17 pm : link
As expected
Lose excellent players
Sign mediocre
Repeat and stay shit
RE: Comparing the numbers  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2024 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16425680 Big Rick in FL said:
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Saquon
1137 touches
5283 scrimmage yards
4.6 yards per touch
32 TDs

Singletary
1063 touches
5213 scrimmage yards
4.9 yards per touch
24 TDs


This is over the last 5 seasons (Singletary first season in the NFL)
Fantastic signing  
JT039 : 3/11/2024 4:18 pm : link
This is probably the best move they have made in years when compared to Barkley.
hows Singletary when it comes to blitz  
Rory : 3/11/2024 4:18 pm : link
pickup?
He's got Joe Morris size  
GFAN52 : 3/11/2024 4:18 pm : link
hope he produces on the Giants like Joe did.
 
ryanmkeane : 3/11/2024 4:19 pm : link
I really hope it’s a 1 year deal. Not sure why you’d spend anything at all on RB if you aren’t bringing Barkley back
RE: This has the feel of 2019 when they traded Odell  
NYGiantFL007 : 3/11/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16425695 csb said:
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and signed Golden Tate. I'm fine with the Giants not spending $13M on Saquon if you don't value the position, but then don't spend $6M on a JAG RB.


Dumb analogy. Golden was a shell of himself, clinging to his career.
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Rory : 3/11/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16425698 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16425666 Go Terps said:


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The only major difference is the tread on the tire.





tread on the tire, 100 more receptions, and 23 more tds in fewer games played. but tds aren't that important are they?


keep sending it man. Love it
RE: …  
ryanmkeane : 3/11/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16425714 ryanmkeane said:
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I really hope it’s a 1 year deal. Not sure why you’d spend anything at all on RB if you aren’t bringing Barkley back

1 year guaranteed deal I mean
Smart, Tough, Dependable  
Biteymax22 : 3/11/2024 4:19 pm : link
At the very least, he's been more dependable than Barkley. No he isn't the same back, he doesn't have the big play ability that Saquon does, he won't take over a game.

What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.
Singletary and Barkley's career  
LS : 3/11/2024 4:20 pm : link
yards per touch are the same at 4.9 yards.
RE: RE: lol  
chitt17 : 3/11/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16425618 Big Rick in FL said:
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In comment 16425597 BleedBlue said:


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we stink



Devin Singletary has averaged more yards per carry than Saquon every single year for the last 5 years


Exactly.... no dancing for last yard behind the line.
And he has not missed games with injury.
Another yawn of a signing...  
The Mike : 3/11/2024 4:20 pm : link
Singletary is the very definition of mediocrity. But please, go ahead and take your anger out on other Giant fans rather than the rudderless management of this team...
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Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16425698 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16425666 Go Terps said:


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The only major difference is the tread on the tire.





tread on the tire, 100 more receptions, and 23 more tds in fewer games played. but tds aren't that important are they?


Take out Saquon's monster rookie season and what do the numbers look like? Hint they're almost identical
RE: hows Singletary when it comes to blitz  
Eric on Li : 3/11/2024 4:20 pm : link
In comment 16425708 Rory said:
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pickup?


doesnt rate well. credited with twice as many sacks last year in half as many snaps as barkley.

RE: A bit of an overpay, but not too bad  
Larry in Pencilvania : 3/11/2024 4:21 pm : link
In comment 16425620 Anakim said:
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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Compensation update: Giants are giving former Texans RB Devin Singletary a 3-year, $16.5 million deal worth up to $19.5 million, per source.


Unless you know the guarantees you can't make that statement. It means nothing till the terms are released.

I like Singletary....  
Fishmanjim57 : 3/11/2024 4:21 pm : link
When people were discussing who the Giants should target if they lost Barkley, several people mentioned Singletary. If the Giants actually get a decent QB, instead of that bum they overpaid for last season, Singletary could be good in the RedZone, or on 3rd and inches situations.
This is a good signing.
RE: Smart, Tough, Dependable  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2024 4:22 pm : link
In comment 16425721 Biteymax22 said:
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At the very least, he's been more dependable than Barkley. No he isn't the same back, he doesn't have the big play ability that Saquon does, he won't take over a game.

What he will do is a lot of little things well, he'll be in the right hole, he's a good pass blocker. Solid type of vet you want on your team while you're trying to develop a young player or two.


Does Saquon really even have big play ability anymore?
Singletary at half the price  
Breeze_94 : 3/11/2024 4:22 pm : link
Of Saquon. I like this player a lot.
Maybe  
Carson53 : 3/11/2024 4:22 pm : link
they bring in Zack Moss too, wouldn't surprise me. They love their Buffalo connections, they really do.
Any word on the...  
bw in dc : 3/11/2024 4:23 pm : link
guarantees?
RE: Any word on the...  
Amtoft : 3/11/2024 4:23 pm : link
In comment 16425746 bw in dc said:
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guarantees?


Not yet
Guarantees  
Sammo85 : 3/11/2024 4:24 pm : link
are fine. It’s actually about 40 pct of Saquons deal, looking at the initial breakdown.
RE: The definition of average.  
Sec_149 : 3/11/2024 4:24 pm : link
In comment 16425669 Brandon Walsh said:
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Just gross all around


I agree Saquon is overrated on this board
Draft a RB  
JT039 : 3/11/2024 4:24 pm : link
And we are set in the backfield.

This has been a great day so far and we still have ammo for Burns and the NE guard.
RE: RE: A bit of an overpay, but not too bad  
Eric on Li : 3/11/2024 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16425733 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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In comment 16425620 Anakim said:


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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Compensation update: Giants are giving former Texans RB Devin Singletary a 3-year, $16.5 million deal worth up to $19.5 million, per source.



Unless you know the guarantees you can't make that statement. It means nothing till the terms are released.


most multi-year deals guarantee the first 2 years. on a deal this small it's not hard to figure because it will obviously be more than 1 year of AAV (5.5m) but less than the full amount. the guarantee is almost definitely between 8-12m, any of which would effectively make it a 2 year deal.
RE: Exactly  
Greg from LI : 3/11/2024 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16425700 hitdog42 said:
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As expected
Lose excellent players
Sign mediocre
Repeat and stay shit


Need a kleenex?
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speedywheels : 3/11/2024 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16425666 Go Terps said:
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The only major difference is the tread on the tire.



LOL! There is a lot more of a difference than tread.

But don't let that fuck with your narrative
.  
Anakim : 3/11/2024 4:25 pm : link
Next Gen Stats

@NextGenStats

Devin Singletary gained more rushing yards than expected in 11 games in 2023, tied with Christian McCaffrey for the most among running backs.

Giants running backs recorded just +23 RYOE in 2023, 12th-most in the NFL.
Looks Like Giants Paying  
clatterbuck : 3/11/2024 4:26 pm : link
a lot less for similar production. And the signing fits how Schoen values the position. I will hate to see Saquon wearing the green slime but this makes sense.
RE: Draft a RB  
BleedBlue : 3/11/2024 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16425755 JT039 said:
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And we are set in the backfield.

This has been a great day so far and we still have ammo for Burns and the NE guard.


“Set”

We have nothing in backfield worth anything.

Doubt we get burns. And we ssigned a guard in Runyon lol
RE: RE: lol  
djm : 3/11/2024 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16425618 Big Rick in FL said:
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we stink



Devin Singletary has averaged more yards per carry than Saquon every single year for the last 5 years


Well that settles it then.

Expect Singletary to look more like Eddie George 1999 here than Rasheed Jennings circa 2014.
Another JAG  
The Mike : 3/11/2024 4:27 pm : link
Yawn.
RE: Houston’s OL  
FStubbs : 3/11/2024 4:27 pm : link
In comment 16425642 Sammo85 said:
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was not good, that needs to be stated adamantly before everybody starts predicting a career worst season for him here.


It was way better than ours. No offensive line was remotely as bad as ours.

Though - you have to hope by dumb luck our line won't be as bad next year.
RE: Draft a RB  
bw in dc : 3/11/2024 4:27 pm : link
In comment 16425755 JT039 said:
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And we are set in the backfield.

This has been a great day so far and we still have ammo for Burns and the NE guard.


Definitely leaning your way, but would rather steer clear of Burns. But I get the idea...
RE: Seems like he's stayed healthy, despite a consistent work load.  
djm : 3/11/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16425673 BigBlueNH said:
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Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.


What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.

You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.

RE: Draft a RB  
FStubbs : 3/11/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16425755 JT039 said:
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And we are set in the backfield.

This has been a great day so far and we still have ammo for Burns and the NE guard.


I doubt we sign the NE guard with the Runyan signing. They'll probably hope Ezeudu/McKethan can take the other guard spot.
RE: Any word on the...  
Amtoft : 3/11/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16425746 bw in dc said:
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guarantees?


10 mil guaranteed with .5 of it workout bonuses
RE: RE: .  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16425767 speedywheels said:
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In comment 16425666 Go Terps said:


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The only major difference is the tread on the tire.





LOL! There is a lot more of a difference than tread.

But don't let that fuck with your narrative


There's really not. I posted their stats over the last 5 years.
RE: RE: RE: A bit of an overpay, but not too bad  
Eric on Li : 3/11/2024 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16425761 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16425733 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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In comment 16425620 Anakim said:


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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Compensation update: Giants are giving former Texans RB Devin Singletary a 3-year, $16.5 million deal worth up to $19.5 million, per source.



Unless you know the guarantees you can't make that statement. It means nothing till the terms are released.




most multi-year deals guarantee the first 2 years. on a deal this small it's not hard to figure because it will obviously be more than 1 year of AAV (5.5m) but less than the full amount. the guarantee is almost definitely between 8-12m, any of which would effectively make it a 2 year deal.


and there it is:


Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
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The guaranteed money for Devin Singletary is $9.5M per source that can get up to $10M with workout bonuses.
...  
christian : 3/11/2024 4:29 pm : link
My guess this shakes out to something in the 2/11M range.
Welcome to RBC.

The real solution is upfront, not the ball carriers. Six years of Barkley and the Giants had a top half running game once.

If you want the Giants to win on the ground, wish for another OG.
.  
Banks : 3/11/2024 4:29 pm : link
every bills fan disliked him as a player. I never knew why as he seemed ok. That said, I'd rather we went the rookie route
RE: RE: Seems like he's stayed healthy, despite a consistent work load.  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2024 4:29 pm : link
In comment 16425782 djm said:
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In comment 16425673 BigBlueNH said:


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Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.



What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.

You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.


Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
RE: RE: RE: RE: A bit of an overpay, but not too bad  
Sammo85 : 3/11/2024 4:30 pm : link
In comment 16425787 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16425761 Eric on Li said:


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In comment 16425733 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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In comment 16425620 Anakim said:


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Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Compensation update: Giants are giving former Texans RB Devin Singletary a 3-year, $16.5 million deal worth up to $19.5 million, per source.



Unless you know the guarantees you can't make that statement. It means nothing till the terms are released.




most multi-year deals guarantee the first 2 years. on a deal this small it's not hard to figure because it will obviously be more than 1 year of AAV (5.5m) but less than the full amount. the guarantee is almost definitely between 8-12m, any of which would effectively make it a 2 year deal.



and there it is:


Bobby Skinner
@BobbySkinner_
·
3m
The guaranteed money for Devin Singletary is $9.5M per source that can get up to $10M with workout bonuses.


Solid. No complaints.
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ajr2456 : 3/11/2024 4:30 pm : link
In comment 16425698 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16425666 Go Terps said:


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The only major difference is the tread on the tire.





tread on the tire, 100 more receptions, and 23 more tds in fewer games played. but tds aren't that important are they?


It’s important that Singltary has played more games despite being in the league a full season less, no?

And they rushing touchdowns at a similar per touch rate.
RE: RE: hows Singletary when it comes to blitz  
Rory : 3/11/2024 4:30 pm : link
In comment 16425729 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16425708 Rory said:


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pickup?



doesnt rate well. credited with twice as many sacks last year in half as many snaps as barkley.



dang, that might reflect a bit on Stroud too though. Be interesting if we bring Brieda back too.
RE: RE: Any word on the...  
bw in dc : 3/11/2024 4:30 pm : link
In comment 16425784 Amtoft said:
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In comment 16425746 bw in dc said:


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guarantees?



10 mil guaranteed with .5 of it workout bonuses


Thanks.
RE: .  
Sammo85 : 3/11/2024 4:31 pm : link
In comment 16425791 Banks said:
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every bills fan disliked him as a player. I never knew why as he seemed ok. That said, I'd rather we went the rookie route



Bills fans have turned obnoxious. They were destroying Cook and Allen earlier this year until they fired Dorsey and turned it on.
What excellent players did we lose?  
JT039 : 3/11/2024 4:31 pm : link
A broken down Barkley
And a below average safety who had 2 good games last year.

Some fans here really accepted mediocrity. Losing losing players is a good thing. This is what a start of a successful rebuild looks like.
I like the signing  
Rudy5757 : 3/11/2024 4:31 pm : link
but this would indicate more of a rotation at RB rather than Singletary being the main guy. This is part of the replacement of Barkley. I assume we bring in another vet along with a rookie to compete with whoever else we have.

Id rather have Singletary at the lower cost than Barkley at the higher cost though.
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