Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
fucking player we sign needs to be all-pro.. If you are upset we didn't mortgage the season on Barkley then you shouldn't be allowed in conversations about roster structure, depth etc..
Runyon was a good signing (great, amazing- probably not but solid to very good, yes). Singletary is a solid workman like back who will provide exactly what we need from a RB STABLE!
Gunner O was a nice re-signing.
Carter Coughlin solid ST'er.
Lots of player movement to come still. Many teams will need to shed salary before league year starts.
Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
If we downgrade at RB and upgrade at OL, QB, and Wr - then it’s an amazing offseason.
And as best as I can tell has been healthy. The same cannot be said for Barkley.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
If we downgrade at RB and upgrade at OL, QB, and Wr - then it’s an amazing offseason.
I agree. Let’s see what else they do but people here acting like we didn’t downgrade at rb is laughable. We did. And as mentioned it’s okay. Need to boost OL
Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
The only difference is Saquon has had more touches. Take out his rookie season as we know he isn't that player anymore. Look at the last 5 seasons (From Singletary rookie year) and look at it on a per touch basis.
And as best as I can tell has been healthy. The same cannot be said for Barkley.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
I have been wondering even before today if Daboll, Kafka and company want to move from what was an essentially a run first (and run second) offence with Saquon to a more pass first concept with a good solid back like Singletary who does enough to keep other teams off balance. Plus he's a good receiver. And Runyon is a better pass blocker than drive blocker. Not sure what that all means for the 6th pick - QB or WR - but something maybe to think about.
And as best as I can tell has been healthy. The same cannot be said for Barkley.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
Wink wink, the guy with more carries was Barkley.
So Saquon is a lot better than Singletary right? Plus he has more touches than Singletary. So how are there yards from scrimmage almost identical?
and committed to getting value for money.
This is a good signing.
I'm glad the Barkley era has come to an end. I really don't care what he does in Philly, except when they play us.
People posting things like "the management is rudderless," etc, reveal more about their own ignorance than say anything about the state of the Giants.
that prior injury history means a lot going forward. It's really adorable to see.
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
that prior injury history means a lot going forward. It's really adorable to see.
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
Wake me in September.
The biggest predictor of future injuries is past injuries.
that prior injury history means a lot going forward. It's really adorable to see.
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
Wake me in September.
Please. You won’t be silent for 6 minutes, let alone 6 months.
that prior injury history means a lot going forward. It's really adorable to see.
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
Wake me in September.
I think we're just going to let you sleep through it.
Not a bad start to FA imo. Would love another OL, get a cheap safety later. The splash signing should be a passrusher, if any. Then kick the draft's ass.
And as best as I can tell has been healthy. The same cannot be said for Barkley.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
Wink wink, the guy with more carries was Barkley.
If two players have similar YPC, I'd prefer the player with less carries than more carries, thanks.
And RB receptions mean nothing when your QB can't throw the ball downfield.
Everyone is discussing the loss of SB and the speculation that
DS will replace him but I don't think that's all of what the focus should be right now.
I think there's level of trust the Giants have with Eric Gray to be a major piece in this as well. It was mentioned repeatedly when ne was drafted last year how Giants could be pre-positioning themselves for a post SB era. I think we are seeing it now.
Is an ordinary running back which is OK because there are several BBI experts who say the Giants are changing from a run-first to a pass-first offense.
djm's tantrums are getting progressively more hilarious
He has been a good but NOT great player on a Bad team multiple times since 2018. His best season was 2018. He tore his knee up in 2020. 2021 he came back and was not fully back most of the year and (like every other year) was dinged by week 5.
2022 he was solid but faded in the second half and quite frankly was basically lightning and white lightning with him and Jones RUNNING most of the time..
2023 he was back to earth and dinged by week 5 again..
We are not losing an ascending player. He might have some gaudy stats with Philly but I somehow doubt that. He will get dinged, as he always does and he will be no better than Swift or any other back the Eagles have been playing lately..
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Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
Runyon was a good signing (great, amazing- probably not but solid to very good, yes). Singletary is a solid workman like back who will provide exactly what we need from a RB STABLE!
Gunner O was a nice re-signing.
Carter Coughlin solid ST'er.
Lots of player movement to come still. Many teams will need to shed salary before league year starts.
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guarantees?
10 mil guaranteed with .5 of it workout bonuses
Thanks.
for ~ 40% of saquon's gtd numbers seems like this will end up being a good value.
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guarantees?
10 mil guaranteed with .5 of it workout bonuses
Thanks.
for ~ 40% of saquon's gtd numbers seems like this will end up being a good value.
I wouldn't be shocked to see us bring in another RB too.
But you have to think with the money they saved - they can sign another part to the OL. Or another safety.
He isn't as good, but he is pretty good for the amount we are paying. He hasn't had one bad year and stays healthy.
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Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
If we downgrade at RB and upgrade at OL, QB, and Wr - then it’s an amazing offseason.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
Wink wink, the guy with more carries was Barkley.
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Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
If we downgrade at RB and upgrade at OL, QB, and Wr - then it’s an amazing offseason.
I agree. Let’s see what else they do but people here acting like we didn’t downgrade at rb is laughable. We did. And as mentioned it’s okay. Need to boost OL
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Don't underestimate that quality. Add a RB in Rd 4 or so, and our RB should be taking shape.
What kind of shape? 2 jags? Yea, that's one shape.
You're not getting ground breaking or impact from this guy. Don't expect anything more than JAG type play. HE is what he is. Yes you can do worse. You can also do a lot better.
Or you can pay Saquon 20 million more over 3 years for almost identical production
Identical? Barkley has 1k more receiving yards and 15+ more touchdowns…. That’s not identical production. It’s absolutely a downgrade at the position
The only difference is Saquon has had more touches. Take out his rookie season as we know he isn't that player anymore. Look at the last 5 seasons (From Singletary rookie year) and look at it on a per touch basis.
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And as best as I can tell has been healthy. The same cannot be said for Barkley.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
Wink wink, the guy with more carries was Barkley.
Good ... less tread for the next 3 years.
No chargers
Went to LAC
Not yet from what I have seen. Would be a great back to pair with DS.
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resign with Baltimore?
Went to LAC
Yep damn
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resign with Baltimore?
Went to LAC
Damn. Just heard two year deal but no details...
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And as best as I can tell has been healthy. The same cannot be said for Barkley.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
Wink wink, the guy with more carries was Barkley.
So Saquon is a lot better than Singletary right? Plus he has more touches than Singletary. So how are there yards from scrimmage almost identical?
It is really 10 because he isn't going to miss his workout bonuses.
This is a good signing.
I'm glad the Barkley era has come to an end. I really don't care what he does in Philly, except when they play us.
People posting things like "the management is rudderless," etc, reveal more about their own ignorance than say anything about the state of the Giants.
We are actually doing things right. Positional Value
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
Wake me in September.
We are actually doing things right. Positional Value
3 years in and we have 4 players that other teams would like.
4.
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
Wake me in September.
The biggest predictor of future injuries is past injuries.
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
Wake me in September.
Please. You won’t be silent for 6 minutes, let alone 6 months.
"oh this player never gets hurt, cool sign him here for cheap! We all know he won't get hurt and he will surely perform the same way he did in shit dump Buffalo."
FF one year later and the same poster is destroying the NYG medical staff because that same player got hurt while being less effective right here in NY.
We should be just fine. All we did was get weaker on offense. No worries there. Philly should be worse am I right? Why didn't they sign Singletary for half of what SB got?
Wake me in September.
I think we're just going to let you sleep through it.
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And as best as I can tell has been healthy. The same cannot be said for Barkley.
And yet, take a guess which guy had 704 rushing attempts and which guy had 581 over the last 3 years. The same guy who rushed 704 times also had 30 more receptions over the last 3 seasons.
Wink wink, the guy with more carries was Barkley.
If two players have similar YPC, I'd prefer the player with less carries than more carries, thanks.
And RB receptions mean nothing when your QB can't throw the ball downfield.
I think there's level of trust the Giants have with Eric Gray to be a major piece in this as well. It was mentioned repeatedly when ne was drafted last year how Giants could be pre-positioning themselves for a post SB era. I think we are seeing it now.
better* than yards expect that is. So he makes the most out of every carry.
How ironic...
How can people be upset by this?!?
I will say he is not a true bell-cow, Giants are probably going to a committee approach
How can people be upset by this?!?
I will say he is not a true bell-cow, Giants are probably going to a committee approach
He’s not that good. The Bills have been desperate for a RB and didn’t think he was worth re-signing, opting to draft James Cook in the second round.
Is an ordinary running back which is OK because there are several BBI experts who say the Giants are changing from a run-first to a pass-first offense.
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How can people be upset by this?!?
I will say he is not a true bell-cow, Giants are probably going to a committee approach
He’s not that good. The Bills have been desperate for a RB and didn’t think he was worth re-signing, opting to draft James Cook in the second round.
We're moving towards a committee approach, if you look at his numbers they are respectable, regardless of what Buffalo thinks
And don't tell me Singletary is a better player than BArkley.
ISn't there a Duke player you need to fixate on.
No, it was a good pick-up
He has been a good but NOT great player on a Bad team multiple times since 2018. His best season was 2018. He tore his knee up in 2020. 2021 he came back and was not fully back most of the year and (like every other year) was dinged by week 5.
2022 he was solid but faded in the second half and quite frankly was basically lightning and white lightning with him and Jones RUNNING most of the time..
2023 he was back to earth and dinged by week 5 again..
We are not losing an ascending player. He might have some gaudy stats with Philly but I somehow doubt that. He will get dinged, as he always does and he will be no better than Swift or any other back the Eagles have been playing lately..