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Falcons trade Ridder to Cards

jvm52106 : 3/14/2024 1:32 pm
For Rondale Moore.
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Why the hell would Cardinals give up Moore  
BH28 : 3/14/2024 1:35 pm : link
for Ridder? He might be their best WR. Pretty much guarantees Cardinals are gong WR at 4.
I'm surprised they got that much  
jeff57 : 3/14/2024 1:35 pm : link
For him. Good deal for Atlanta.
Moore  
Sammo85 : 3/14/2024 1:38 pm : link
has been a huge bust so far. Some injuries, can’t play outside WR. He’s got one year remaining on rookie deal and fell out of favor quickly under two coaching staffs.

RE: Why the hell would Cardinals give up Moore  
ZogZerg : 3/14/2024 1:39 pm : link
In comment 16431748 BH28 said:
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for Ridder? He might be their best WR. Pretty much guarantees Cardinals are gong WR at 4.


Yup, they were going WR before the trade.
the Falcons fans I know hated him  
KDavies : 3/14/2024 1:40 pm : link
I'm sure they'll be glad they got rid of Ridder
Great trade for Atlanta  
Rudy5757 : 3/14/2024 1:40 pm : link
Now I definitely wouldn’t trade up. The Cardinals are locked in at WR and probably not trading out of the top 10.
They could be the landing spot  
jvm52106 : 3/14/2024 1:41 pm : link
for Justin Jefferson too. Their WR group at the moment is VERY underwhelming.
I'm on the other side of this.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/14/2024 1:51 pm : link
I like this deal for Arizona. Atlanta has a bunch of weapons already. Why give up a cost controlled young QB for a WR when there are so many WRs available every year in the draft?
Unless JJ is involved, I can’t see Arizona moving  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2024 1:52 pm : link
down with Minnesota or Denver now and missing out on the big 3WR’s
This trade obviously means  
bigblueny : 3/14/2024 1:56 pm : link
the Giants are taking a QB and dumping Jones

\sarcasm
Imagine watching ridder and thinking  
GiantsFan84 : 3/14/2024 2:01 pm : link
That you want him on your team
RE: Unless JJ is involved, I can’t see Arizona moving  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2024 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16431764 Strahan91 said:
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down with Minnesota or Denver now and missing out on the big 3WR’s

Adding to this, it would be foolish to trade #4 for JJ when you can have MHJ on a rookie deal. As good as Jefferson is, he turned down $30M already and Harrison is the best WR prospect in some time
RE: This trade obviously means  
Mike from Ohio : 3/14/2024 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16431768 bigblueny said:
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the Giants are taking a QB and dumping Jones

\sarcasm


This trade doesn't happen unless Schoen and Daboll are done with Jones.
See Giants  
GiantTuff1 : 3/14/2024 2:07 pm : link
you don't need 5 years to figure out if someone is the guy.
Wandale > Rondale  
81_Great_Dane : 3/14/2024 2:09 pm : link
And a lot of people thought Rondale was a big-time prospect.
RE: See Giants  
fanoftheteam : 3/14/2024 2:33 pm : link
In comment 16431779 GiantTuff1 said:
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you don't need 5 years to figure out if someone is the guy.


Nope. You need 4 full seasons ala Eli Manning.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/14/2024 2:34 pm : link
Ridder isn’t a good QB.
...  
ryanmkeane : 3/14/2024 2:41 pm : link
Weird trade for Arizona
RE: I'm on the other side of this.  
Ned In Atlanta : 3/14/2024 2:42 pm : link
In comment 16431763 robbieballs2003 said:
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I like this deal for Arizona. Atlanta has a bunch of weapons already. Why give up a cost controlled young QB for a WR when there are so many WRs available every year in the draft?



Ridder is horrendous
RE: RE: I'm on the other side of this.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/14/2024 2:45 pm : link
In comment 16431810 Ned In Atlanta said:
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I like this deal for Arizona. Atlanta has a bunch of weapons already. Why give up a cost controlled young QB for a WR when there are so many WRs available every year in the draft?




Ridder is horrendous


And so is Rondale Moore. He hasn't had more than 435 yards in a season and that was his rookie year. And he only has 1 year left on his deal.
RE: Unless JJ is involved, I can’t see Arizona moving  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 2:47 pm : link
In comment 16431764 Strahan91 said:
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down with Minnesota or Denver now and missing out on the big 3WR’s


Yeah and trading for jj would be dumb with his contract Inc they couldn't build much around Kyler and JJ.
Arizona also needs a LT  
rasbutant : 3/14/2024 3:14 pm : link
And they love Turner.

I would go with Joe Alt if I were them.
Grab one of the vets wr that were cut and look to add one in the 2nd round. Not many options for day one stating LT out there.
Cheap young backup QB with starting experience  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2024 3:16 pm : link
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RE: RE: Why the hell would Cardinals give up Moore  
eric2425ny : 3/14/2024 3:35 pm : link
In comment 16431752 ZogZerg said:
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for Ridder? He might be their best WR. Pretty much guarantees Cardinals are gong WR at 4.



Yup, they were going WR before the trade.


Welcome to Arizona Mr. Harrison Jr.
RE: RE: RE: Why the hell would Cardinals give up Moore  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 3:38 pm : link
In comment 16431858 eric2425ny said:
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for Ridder? He might be their best WR. Pretty much guarantees Cardinals are gong WR at 4.



Yup, they were going WR before the trade.



Welcome to Arizona Mr. Harrison Jr.


After trading a dominant pass rusher (will Anderson jr.) Last draft for a bunch of day 2 and 3 picks plus pick 26 this year, they got hosed expecting Texans pick to be higher. I don't think they will make the same mistake twice by passing up MHJ to trade down.
RE: Arizona also needs a LT  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 3:41 pm : link
In comment 16431844 rasbutant said:
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And they love Turner.

I would go with Joe Alt if I were them.
Grab one of the vets wr that were cut and look to add one in the 2nd round. Not many options for day one stating LT out there.


They signed Jonah Williams and drafted Paris Johnson after trading down with the Texans last year. They are not passing up on MHJ. They've been having extensive discussions with Denver and Minnesota about trading down, then they make this trade and sign Jonah Williams. No chance they pass up MHJ imo. Trading down with Minn or Den would leave them not only without MHJ but without any of the top 3 wrs. No chance.
RE: RE: Arizona also needs a LT  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16431865 BleedBlue46 said:
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And they love Turner.

I would go with Joe Alt if I were them.
Grab one of the vets wr that were cut and look to add one in the 2nd round. Not many options for day one stating LT out there.



They signed Jonah Williams and drafted Paris Johnson after trading down with the Texans last year. They are not passing up on MHJ. They've been having extensive discussions with Denver and Minnesota about trading down, then they make this trade and sign Jonah Williams. No chance they pass up MHJ imo. Trading down with Minn or Den would leave them not only without MHJ but without any of the top 3 wrs. No chance.


Unless perhaps Minnesota includes Justin Jefferson and they decide Jefferson plus whatever sweetener the Vikings includes in addition just their #1 swap is enough to not take MHjr.
RE: RE: RE: Arizona also needs a LT  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 4:02 pm : link
In comment 16431870 GFAN52 said:
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And they love Turner.

I would go with Joe Alt if I were them.
Grab one of the vets wr that were cut and look to add one in the 2nd round. Not many options for day one stating LT out there.



They signed Jonah Williams and drafted Paris Johnson after trading down with the Texans last year. They are not passing up on MHJ. They've been having extensive discussions with Denver and Minnesota about trading down, then they make this trade and sign Jonah Williams. No chance they pass up MHJ imo. Trading down with Minn or Den would leave them not only without MHJ but without any of the top 3 wrs. No chance.



Unless perhaps Minnesota includes Justin Jefferson and they decide Jefferson plus whatever sweetener the Vikings includes in addition just their #1 swap is enough to not take MHjr.


If mhj is even 3/4 of what he's expected to be its much better than paying jj 30m per. Look at the dolphins, how'd the hill trade work for them so far?
Cardinals have lots of draft capital  
Toth029 : 3/14/2024 4:40 pm : link
I don't see why they should trade down unless MIN offers Jefferson + picks.
RE: RE: See Giants  
GiantTuff1 : 3/14/2024 7:58 pm : link
In comment 16431799 fanoftheteam said:
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you don't need 5 years to figure out if someone is the guy.



Nope. You need 4 full seasons ala Eli Manning.

It was obvious Eli was the guy well before that. He flashed consistently even amidst struggles. Nothing like Jones.
RE: RE: Arizona also needs a LT  
rasbutant : 3/14/2024 11:04 pm : link
In comment 16431865 BleedBlue46 said:
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And they love Turner.

I would go with Joe Alt if I were them.
Grab one of the vets wr that were cut and look to add one in the 2nd round. Not many options for day one stating LT out there.



They signed Jonah Williams and drafted Paris Johnson after trading down with the Texans last year. They are not passing up on MHJ. They've been having extensive discussions with Denver and Minnesota about trading down, then they make this trade and sign Jonah Williams. No chance they pass up MHJ imo. Trading down with Minn or Den would leave them not only without MHJ but without any of the top 3 wrs. No chance.


I didn’t see they signed Williams.
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