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Keenan Allen to the Bears

DanMetroMan : 3/14/2024 10:18 pm
For a 4th per Glazer
Chargers are 100% going WR now  
bigbluewillrise : 3/14/2024 10:21 pm : link
we have to be comfortable with teh 4th-6th QB or 3rd WR....
 
christian : 3/14/2024 10:24 pm : link
I suspected LA would hit the reset button with the skill players.

It makes too much sense for them to draft Nabers or Odunze.
Man...  
Amtoft : 3/14/2024 10:26 pm : link
Poor Justin Herbert.
Chargers could be looking  
jvm52106 : 3/14/2024 10:27 pm : link
To move down but, but,

Herbert could be had with a restructured deal. I suspect Harbaugh wants his guys to move forward.

RE: Man...  
bigbluewillrise : 3/14/2024 10:30 pm : link
In comment 16432524 Amtoft said:
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Poor Justin Herbert.


hes gettng nabors.
RE: RE: Man...  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16432530 bigbluewillrise said:
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Poor Justin Herbert.



hes gettng nabors.


I'd guess Odunze is more Harbaugh's style.
Maybe no one will be able to trade into top 5  
PhillippiSparks22 : 3/14/2024 10:33 pm : link
Bears, Commies, Pats locked in on QBs. Cards need a LT and WRs, same with LAC. QB 4 and WR 3 on the board for your 6-11 New York Football Giants! The 100th season sure is shaping up to be a special one.
I’ll be curious to see how Hebert does  
speedywheels : 3/14/2024 10:35 pm : link
Without eckler, Williams and Allen (while adding a rookie WR, obviously).
So Keenan Allen traded  
bigblue5611 : 3/14/2024 10:35 pm : link
LAC 99% going WR, ARI trades Rondale Moore, they’re most likely going WR as well. Would probably not need to even bother trading with Pats if they’re comfortable with one of Maye or JJ as they should have one of them at 6. Only worry is if Minn or Denver actually tries to trade up but don’t see Pats wanting to trade that far back unless it’s a kings ransom and even then the Giants can probably do better given they have the 6th pick and not 11/12.
RE: RE: Man...  
Amtoft : 3/14/2024 10:36 pm : link
In comment 16432530 bigbluewillrise said:
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Poor Justin Herbert.



hes gettng nabors.


Yeah but Nabers with Keenan is a million times better than Nabers without him. I mean you would hope if you are Herbert you keep Keenan and got a Nabers/Odunze. Saying that Harbaugh never really cared about WRs, I wouldn't be shocked by a trade down and OL pick or just take OT at 5.
 
ryanmkeane : 3/14/2024 10:37 pm : link
LA needs OL too, they need to protect Herbert and currently have 1 good tackle on their roster.
RE: Maybe no one will be able to trade into top 5  
Amtoft : 3/14/2024 10:39 pm : link
In comment 16432533 PhillippiSparks22 said:
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Bears, Commies, Pats locked in on QBs. Cards need a LT and WRs, same with LAC. QB 4 and WR 3 on the board for your 6-11 New York Football Giants! The 100th season sure is shaping up to be a special one.


Cards drafted a LT last year in the top 10 and signed OT Jonah Williams 2/30. They either trade down or take a WR IMO.
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Amtoft : 3/14/2024 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16432543 ryanmkeane said:
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LA needs OL too, they need to protect Herbert and currently have 1 good tackle on their roster.


That is why a trade down for them makes sense. You can get a RT like JC Latham while adding lots of picks.
RE: RE: Maybe no one will be able to trade into top 5  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 10:44 pm : link
In comment 16432546 Amtoft said:
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Bears, Commies, Pats locked in on QBs. Cards need a LT and WRs, same with LAC. QB 4 and WR 3 on the board for your 6-11 New York Football Giants! The 100th season sure is shaping up to be a special one.



Cards drafted a LT last year in the top 10 and signed OT Jonah Williams 2/30. They either trade down or take a WR IMO.


I don't see them trading down past us. Unless maybe the Vikings make an insane offer that included 2 1sts and JJ.
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BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 10:47 pm : link
In comment 16432547 Amtoft said:
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LA needs OL too, they need to protect Herbert and currently have 1 good tackle on their roster.



That is why a trade down for them makes sense. You can get a RT like JC Latham while adding lots of picks.


Harbaugh is smarter than to draft a right tackle that high. I bet he wants Odunze or maybe Bowers. Odunze seems like a real Harbaugh kind of player. If I had to bet, he will be their pick.
And with the sixth pick  
crooza172 : 3/14/2024 10:57 pm : link
The giants are staring at qb4 and Wr3.

But those few wins built culture!!!

Sigh….what a time to be alive.
RE: So Keenan Allen traded  
JoeSchoens11 : 3/14/2024 11:03 pm : link
In comment 16432537 bigblue5611 said:
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LAC 99% going WR, ARI trades Rondale Moore, they’re most likely going WR as well. Would probably not need to even bother trading with Pats if they’re comfortable with one of Maye or JJ as they should have one of them at 6. Only worry is if Minn or Denver actually tries to trade up but don’t see Pats wanting to trade that far back unless it’s a kings ransom and even then the Giants can probably do better given they have the 6th pick and not 11/12.
Even if Minn/Den trade with NE it doesn’t change anything for us.
RE: RE: So Keenan Allen traded  
bigblue5611 : 3/14/2024 11:09 pm : link
In comment 16432565 JoeSchoens11 said:
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LAC 99% going WR, ARI trades Rondale Moore, they’re most likely going WR as well. Would probably not need to even bother trading with Pats if they’re comfortable with one of Maye or JJ as they should have one of them at 6. Only worry is if Minn or Denver actually tries to trade up but don’t see Pats wanting to trade that far back unless it’s a kings ransom and even then the Giants can probably do better given they have the 6th pick and not 11/12.

Even if Minn/Den trade with NE it doesn’t change anything for us.
True. Biggest thing out of a trade (for Giants) with NE is to ensure their pick of Maye/JJ (two most likely to be there).
Would the Bears go with Moore, Allen, MHJ?  
BH28 : 3/14/2024 11:10 pm : link
Talk about giving Fields no excuse. You also don't typically trade for a high priced 31 year old WR with a $23M cap hit just to pair him with a rookie QB either.

This seems to signal to me they are going to stick with Fields.
This draft has become increasingly obvious  
Breeze_94 : 3/14/2024 11:17 pm : link
1. CHI - QB Williams
2. WAS - QB Daniels (likely)
3. NE - QB Maye
4. AZ - WR Harrison
5. LAC - WR Odunze or WR Nabers
6. NYG - whichever WR is left
7. TEN - LT Alt
8. ATL - Edge Turner
9. CHI - trade down with Den, allowing them to leap Min for McCarthy
10. NYJ - LT Fashanu
RE: Would the Bears go with Moore, Allen, MHJ?  
crooza172 : 3/14/2024 11:20 pm : link
In comment 16432570 BH28 said:
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Talk about giving Fields no excuse. You also don't typically trade for a high priced 31 year old WR with a $23M cap hit just to pair him with a rookie QB either.

This seems to signal to me they are going to stick with Fields.



This signals to me they didn’t think they’d get a top WR at 9 for Caleb.
RE: This draft has become increasingly obvious  
crooza172 : 3/14/2024 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16432577 Breeze_94 said:
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1. CHI - QB Williams
2. WAS - QB Daniels (likely)
3. NE - QB Maye
4. AZ - WR Harrison
5. LAC - WR Odunze or WR Nabers
6. NYG - whichever WR is left
7. TEN - LT Alt
8. ATL - Edge Turner
9. CHI - trade down with Den, allowing them to leap Min for McCarthy
10. NYJ - LT Fashanu


You spelled McCarthy wrong at pick six.
They had  
MyNameIsMyName : 3/14/2024 11:27 pm : link
To fix their cap. This doesn’t mean they are definitely going WR. Im guessing they trade back for a team jumping up for a QB
Love what the Bears are doing.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2024 11:28 pm : link

I bet they trade Fields for a 4th and recoup what they just gave up for Keenan Allen.

Caleb Williams
D’Andre Swift
DJ Moore
Keenan Allen.

Talk about setting your young QB up to succeed. Absolutely love it.
Allen  
TyreeHelmet : 3/14/2024 11:29 pm : link
Rhe
Allen  
TyreeHelmet : 3/14/2024 11:30 pm : link
They couldn’t get more? Really good receiver, big fan of Allen.
RE: Love what the Bears are doing.  
BH28 : 3/14/2024 11:43 pm : link
In comment 16432586 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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I bet they trade Fields for a 4th and recoup what they just gave up for Keenan Allen.

Caleb Williams
D’Andre Swift
DJ Moore
Keenan Allen.

Talk about setting your young QB up to succeed. Absolutely love it.


Or are they trying to give Fields all the weapons for one last chance? If the Bears move out of the top spot, they can still take one of the 3 WRs at 6 and then move back out of 9, that will give them so much ammo for 2025 draft if they need to go QB.
RE: RE: This draft has become increasingly obvious  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 11:55 pm : link
In comment 16432582 crooza172 said:
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1. CHI - QB Williams
2. WAS - QB Daniels (likely)
3. NE - QB Maye
4. AZ - WR Harrison
5. LAC - WR Odunze or WR Nabers
6. NYG - whichever WR is left
7. TEN - LT Alt
8. ATL - Edge Turner
9. CHI - trade down with Den, allowing them to leap Min for McCarthy
10. NYJ - LT Fashanu



You spelled McCarthy wrong at pick six.


We aren't taking Nabers over McCarthy at 6. Nabers with his unpermitted gun incident is not going to be selected over McCarthy, no chance imo.
RE: This draft has become increasingly obvious  
BleedBlue46 : 3/14/2024 11:56 pm : link
In comment 16432577 Breeze_94 said:
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1. CHI - QB Williams
2. WAS - QB Daniels (likely)
3. NE - QB Maye
4. AZ - WR Harrison
5. LAC - WR Odunze or WR Nabers
6. NYG - whichever WR is left
7. TEN - LT Alt
8. ATL - Edge Turner
9. CHI - trade down with Den, allowing them to leap Min for McCarthy
10. NYJ - LT Fashanu


And Harbaugh won't take Nabers over Odunze I'd bet a lot on that.
RE: Would the Bears go with Moore, Allen, MHJ?  
giantstock : 3/15/2024 12:03 am : link
In comment 16432570 BH28 said:
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Talk about giving Fields no excuse. You also don't typically trade for a high priced 31 year old WR with a $23M cap hit just to pair him with a rookie QB either.

This seems to signal to me they are going to stick with Fields.


No way. Maybe some years but this year is unusual. You have a 7-9 team picking overall number 1 in which the QB class is very strong. Esepcailly the number 1 QB if not the number 2 thought to be extremely high. Which now you get for cheap in which your team is alreayd pretty well built. The chance they don't believe any of these rookie QB's won't be great-- -it's slim.

And especailly after what they saw Stroud accomplish in which they passed on taking him vs a QB who has been subpar so far passing.
RE: RE: Love what the Bears are doing.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/15/2024 12:40 am : link
In comment 16432601 BH28 said:
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I bet they trade Fields for a 4th and recoup what they just gave up for Keenan Allen.

Caleb Williams
D’Andre Swift
DJ Moore
Keenan Allen.

Talk about setting your young QB up to succeed. Absolutely love it.



Or are they trying to give Fields all the weapons for one last chance? If the Bears move out of the top spot, they can still take one of the 3 WRs at 6 and then move back out of 9, that will give them so much ammo for 2025 draft if they need to go QB.


No way. Fields is a goner. Zero chance he stays in Chicago
RE: RE: RE: This draft has become increasingly obvious  
section125 : 3/15/2024 3:31 am : link
In comment 16432610 BleedBlue46 said:
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1. CHI - QB Williams
2. WAS - QB Daniels (likely)
3. NE - QB Maye
4. AZ - WR Harrison
5. LAC - WR Odunze or WR Nabers
6. NYG - whichever WR is left
7. TEN - LT Alt
8. ATL - Edge Turner
9. CHI - trade down with Den, allowing them to leap Min for McCarthy
10. NYJ - LT Fashanu



You spelled McCarthy wrong at pick six.



We aren't taking Nabers over McCarthy at 6. Nabers with his unpermitted gun incident is not going to be selected over McCarthy, no chance imo.


Nobody gives a shit about the gun incident - not even the police. They may take McCarthy, yes. But it will have nothing to do with Nabers having a gun in his possession.
Now, how about trading Herbert!!  
ZogZerg : 3/15/2024 6:35 am : link
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Dumb trade for the bears  
GiantsFan84 : 3/15/2024 7:05 am : link
Allen has maybe 1 productive year left. They aren’t winning a Super Bowl this year. Why would you trade a draft pick for him
RE: Dumb trade for the bears  
riceneggs : 3/15/2024 8:11 am : link
In comment 16432667 GiantsFan84 said:
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Why would you trade a draft pick for him


(1) they'll get that draft pick right back if/when they trade Fields

(2) they'll get a ton of draft picks if they trade the #1 pick

so either way, they're good!


RE: Now, how about trading Herbert!!  
rich in DC : 3/15/2024 9:18 am : link
In comment 16432659 ZogZerg said:
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The Chargers can’t trade him. If they do, it incurs an $89M cap hit- they just had to struggle to make $22M in cap room. There’s no way to make $89M up.
RE: RE: Now, how about trading Herbert!!  
rich in DC : 3/15/2024 9:19 am : link
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The Chargers can’t trade him. If they do, it incurs an $89M cap hit- they just had to struggle to make $22M in cap room. There’s no way to make $89M up.


Here’s a link to the cap hit.

Why the Chargers can’t trade Herbert - ( New Window )
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