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NFT: Gerrit Cole Recommended For Non-Surgical Rehab On Elbow

Sky King : 3/15/2024 3:20 pm
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The Yankees and their fans can breathe a sigh of relief. Jon Heyman and Mark W. Sanchez of the New York Post report that defending AL Cy Young winner Gerrit Cole is expected to avoid surgery after further evaluation on his ailing elbow. The recommendation is for a treatment program of rest and non-surgical rehab.

Heyman and Sanchez report that Cole is expected to be out for roughly one to two months. Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweets that the timeline for a return to MLB action should be closer to 10-12 weeks. In either case, surgery isn’t on the table at present and the Yankees should get their ace back within the season’s first half.

That was the initial expectation. Team doctors reportedly identified the issue as elbow inflammation and concluded that Cole’s ulnar collateral ligament was intact. He nevertheless visited noted orthopedic surgeon Dr. Neal ElAttrache for additional testing today. It seems that in-person evaluation confirmed the initial indication that Cole has not sustained any UCL damage.

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I'm still a skeptic  
Beer Man : 3/15/2024 4:08 pm : link
This is a rinse and repeat pattern for the Yanks when it comes to injured players, maybe they are being truthful this time.
Just a few days ago they were saying Cole would be out 1 to 2 months, now its 2.5 to 3 months.
It was never going to be 1-2 months  
Sky King : 3/15/2024 4:19 pm : link
Even in the best case, which this is.
I take anything  
Carson53 : 3/15/2024 4:44 pm : link
I hear from Nightengale with a grain of salt. He is wrong as often as he is right. To me, one of the least credible baseball writers out there, over the years.
I wouldn't expect to see Cole until about sometime in June
(if everything goes okay).
RE: I take anything  
Ron from Ninerland : 3/15/2024 7:05 pm : link
In comment 16434018 Carson53 said:
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I hear from Nightingale with a grain of salt. He is wrong as often as he is right. To me, one of the least credible baseball writers out there, over the years.
I wouldn't expect to see Cole until about sometime in June
(if everything goes okay).
Agreed. I don't know how Nightingale still has a job. He reminds me of that reporter in Season 5 of The Wire who was making shit up. He's been more wrong more often than any baseball writer out there.
I heard this being reported on the radio today  
allstarjim : 3/15/2024 9:15 pm : link
And the way it was presented, "it was first reported by Bob Nightingale, but since confirmed by other reporters."

They also said that 10-12 weeks was the timetable to start throwing again...so that means another month to six weeks for throwing program and rehab to come off the IL and join the big club.

Again, this is sports radio, and they were really pessimistic on Cole, because the nature of a pitcher being out that long means that this is more than just inflammation, bc inflammation doesn't take that long to heal with rest.
Interview with Cole; post Doctor's visit  
Ron from Ninerland : 3/16/2024 2:04 pm : link
three to four weeks of no throwing, however he will be exercising the arm.
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Breathe a sigh of relief seems a bit strong to me.  
Mad Mike : 3/16/2024 2:07 pm : link
More like hold off on a sigh of despair. This seems like less of a passing grade than an incomplete.
We won’t know anything until he ramps things back  
Jim in Hoboken : 3/16/2024 6:58 pm : link
up again. Gil looked good again. I hope he and Warren get a real chance, and Hampton too towards the second half. The starting rotation is full of questions, some of them should see time.

Anybody caught the breakout game?
RE: Breathe a sigh of relief seems a bit strong to me.  
Del Shofner : 3/16/2024 7:01 pm : link
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More like hold off on a sigh of despair. This seems like less of a passing grade than an incomplete.


Well put.
RE: We won’t know anything until he ramps things back  
BigBlueShock : 3/16/2024 8:07 pm : link
In comment 16435601 Jim in Hoboken said:
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up again. Gil looked good again. I hope he and Warren get a real chance, and Hampton too towards the second half. The starting rotation is full of questions, some of them should see time.

Anybody caught the breakout game?

I caught most of it. Spencer Jones is really starting to excite me. And Selvidge is an interesting prospect. Doesn’t have elite stuff but the dude knows how to pitch. Could be a legit rotation piece down the road
In the “Everything Goes Perfectly World”,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/16/2024 8:13 pm : link
Jones is the starting LF in 2025, alongside El Marciano and Soto. Judge would move to first base.

In other exciting news, Volpe is assaulting spring training pitching again.
Here's a link to an article in the Athletic about the Cole injury  
Stu11 : 3/18/2024 11:49 am : link
For the cut his elbow open ASAP crowd this doesn't appear to be a ligament injury at all. It explains it as swelling in the tissue. It wasn't "forearm soreness". Sounds like they are taking it cautious and a late May return isn't impossible.
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Obviously there isn’t anything to fix surgically now but this doesn’t  
Jim in Hoboken : 3/18/2024 12:11 pm : link
mean something won’t happen when he revs it up in 2 months.

The silver lining is this may necessitate Gil being the 5th starter. He’s looked great, better than Warren and Beeter. For some reason they didn’t stick with him when he came up, maybe the injury had something to do with it, but hopefully now he’s one of Cashman’s “preferred” prospects.
RE: Obviously there isn’t anything to fix surgically now but this doesn’t  
Mike from SI : 3/18/2024 12:35 pm : link
In comment 16437405 Jim in Hoboken said:
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mean something won’t happen when he revs it up in 2 months.

The silver lining is this may necessitate Gil being the 5th starter. He’s looked great, better than Warren and Beeter. For some reason they didn’t stick with him when he came up, maybe the injury had something to do with it, but hopefully now he’s one of Cashman’s “preferred” prospects.


I believe Gil is returning from an injury such that he would be on an innings cap. If anything, he gets the Michael King role or an opener-type role (assuming I'm right).
I'm not breathing a sigh of relief over this.  
Matt M. : 3/18/2024 3:44 pm : link
I'm also not writing off his season or their season. I think the reports have been ambiguous enough and we don't really know enough. Either they are being way overly cautious with him or significant information is not being disclosed. Otherwise, what has been described does not seem in line for the length of time he will miss for rest, rehab, and return. Even an interview I heard with Cashman in which he described his conversation with Cole himself after the visit to the doctor seemed to bely the actual outcome.
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rich in DC : 3/18/2024 5:09 pm : link
In comment 16435737 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16435601 Jim in Hoboken said:


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up again. Gil looked good again. I hope he and Warren get a real chance, and Hampton too towards the second half. The starting rotation is full of questions, some of them should see time.

Anybody caught the breakout game?


I caught most of it. Spencer Jones is really starting to excite me. And Selvidge is an interesting prospect. Doesn’t have elite stuff but the dude knows how to pitch. Could be a legit rotation piece down the road


Everything I'm reading says that Jones is the likely CF as Jasson's instincts as an OF aren't great in CF and he makes more sense in one of the corners. Jones is apparently a natural OF with an improving arm (remember that he used to be a pitcher but blew out his arm and had TJ his freshman year at Vandy)- and the arm strength has returned.
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