remember all quarterbacks drafted can be busts

We all know this.

any other player at any other position.

can be a bust. But some only want to apply that to QB. Ridiculous.

The Giants should not overpay.....

I’m too scared.

In comment 16436777 bceagle05 said:

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I’m too scared.

Some BBIers are scared of their own shadow.

Evan Neal.

of the Sure Thing Draft Society.

In comment 16436782 bw in dc said:

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of the Sure Thing Draft Society.

lol...heck Brady was drafted in the 6th round...so we find our GOAT in the latter rounds...right?

If by “quarterbacks” you mean “every single position” then I agree with you

I’m seriously afraid for the mental well being of some on this board the day Daniel Jones is officially no longer a Giant

Pick a QB that Daboll loves. Probably need to trade up.

In comment 16436769 ElitoCanton said:

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can be a bust. But some only want to apply that to QB. Ridiculous.

But it is quarterbacks that are routinely over drafted especially in the first round.

Nonsense. Players are overdrafted all the time because this is not an exact science. But you are afraid of drafting a player at the most important position in sports. So we'll just suck forever because we can never hit at the position. Grow a pair

In comment 16436792 jeffusedtobeonwebtv said:

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In comment 16436769 ElitoCanton said: Quote: can be a bust. But some only want to apply that to QB. Ridiculous. But it is quarterbacks that are routinely over drafted especially in the first round.

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In comment 16436769 ElitoCanton said: Quote: can be a bust. But some only want to apply that to QB. Ridiculous. But it is quarterbacks that are routinely over drafted especially in the first round.

So what's your recommendation then Jeff?

Should we stay with Daniel Jones until he retires?

Should we never draft a QB in the first round again and hope to strike gold in later rounds?

Give us a break.

QB is the most important position by far. If your team needs a QB to replace their ineffective, oft-injured, current QB... AND you're in a position to select a QB that you think has franchise potential... then you take the QB.

And if that QB is a bust, you draft another QB until you get it right!

Dave Brown
Danny Kanell
Scott Brunner
Jersey Joe Pisarcik
Kent Graham
The Bachelor himself, Jesse Palmer

etc

All positions have a bust factor whether they are top 10 picks or not. What's your point?

In comment 16436774 George from PA said:

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The Giants should not overpay.....

Agreed, let the Vikings take that risk. Don't trade up any higher than pick 5 for a future 3rd imo. I would trade up to 3 for Daniels, but that isn't going to be possible so it's beyond a pipedream. JJM, Maye, Odunze or trade down imo.

In comment 16436867 56goat said:

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Dave Brown Danny Kanell Scott Brunner Jersey Joe Pisarcik Kent Graham The Bachelor himself, Jesse Palmer etc

Kent Graham wasn't a bust, and I think calling Kanell one is iffy.

Graham was an 8th round pick - today he'd be a UDFA. He developed into a quality backup/spot starter. That's great ROI. He was the opposite of a bust, he was value.

Kanell was a 4th round pick who started for a playoff team. So - he did about as much as Daniel Jones has done for us, only as a 4th round pick.

In comment 16436902 FStubbs said:

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In comment 16436867 56goat said: Quote: Dave Brown Danny Kanell Scott Brunner Jersey Joe Pisarcik Kent Graham The Bachelor himself, Jesse Palmer etc Kent Graham wasn't a bust, and I think calling Kanell one is iffy. Graham was an 8th round pick - today he'd be a UDFA. He developed into a quality backup/spot starter. That's great ROI. He was the opposite of a bust, he was value. Kanell was a 4th round pick who started for a playoff team. So - he did about as much as Daniel Jones has done for us, only as a 4th round pick.

None of those guys outside of Dave Brown are busts IMO. They were mid/late round picks or undrafted players that played in the NFL for at least 5 years.

of this thread and it's so bizarre. Is the thought process that we should never draft a QB because of the risk? Or just that we should only draft a QB in years where there's a single can't miss QB prospect going 1 overall? Because if you haven't noticed the giants have stunk for a decade and still haven't gotten the first overall pick.

Will be busts.

In comment 16436764 logman said:

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any other player at any other position.

The problem is QB's are routinely over drafted because too many teams are looking for Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck to "save the franchise"

If you have a chance to draft an Andrew Luck level prospect you take it, no matter what, imo. Problem is none of these BB's are am Andrew Luck level prospect. They are closer to Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen level prospects, and one in a lifetime might turn into Mahomes or Brady. Chances are slim to nil.

Every March 17th is Saint Patrick’s Day.

It's not ok to miss and pretend you didn't.

Every 2021 1st round QB, except those that weren't, were traded. and every one, except those that aren't, are busts?

Jeez. You can miss in the first round and his in later rounds. That is true of every position. What is not true is that either of those statements should dictate your approach to the draft. The whole point is we missed at #6 with Jones, which is how/why we are in this predicament.

My bottom line of Jones is, yes the organization screwed him by never getting the OL or WR right. However, a #6 pick, at any position, has to consistently be good no matter what. A #6 QB should elevate in spite of the OL and should make those around him better. Period.

As the team around him gets better, he should get better. But, the around him improving shouldn't be the only way the QB rises to even mediocrity.

In comment 16437039 Fifty Six said:

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In comment 16436764 logman said: Quote: any other player at any other position. The problem is QB's are routinely over drafted because too many teams are looking for Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck to "save the franchise"

Because QB is the single most important position in football. It is the roster spot that all teams should be heavily investing in, year over year, until they get it right.

What has he proven? 62 passing TDs in 60 games.

"Remember, all players drafted can be busts."

Somehow manages to be both too cynical (why bother to get a QB because most of them bust) and too naive (maybe Daniel Jones will put it together in his 6th season) all at once.