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Am I the only one pissed off about Xavier leaving?

200711 : 3/18/2024 8:01 pm
I think he was horribly underrated and deserved a better deal.

I really don't care about his tweets recently.

We let someone go who really could've helped us.

He was one of the few good players in this shithole Gettleman dug for us.

Yes. I'm angry about this.

The O-Line was fucked last year but now we have to collapse our defense too starting with a young promising leader of the secondary? I don't get it.

Not cool.
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Actutally reading the 6 current reports  
200711 : 3/18/2024 9:46 pm : link
Gives me hope.

I like.
A premium Pass rush  
blueblood : 3/18/2024 9:47 pm : link
helps the secondary more than anything else.

Burns, Dex, Thibs, Ojulari (maybe) and possibly a draft pick will do more to help the secondary than McKinney. And thats not a knock on McKinney its just the reality of football.

2007 our starting safeties were Gibril Wilson and Jimmy Butler.

BUt we had Strahan, Tuck, Osi pressuring the QB..
Paying good players like great players rarely works out  
Greg from LI : 3/18/2024 9:49 pm : link
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I loved X  
AROCK1000 : 3/18/2024 9:50 pm : link
And wanted to keep him,but he got a premium amount,we would have been mistaken to match it.
Yes $17m is just not worth it  
Gregorio : 3/18/2024 10:03 pm : link
as much as I liked Mckinney. That’s free agency for ya.
You're not alone...  
Fishmanjim57 : 3/18/2024 10:07 pm : link
I knew the traitor was leaving the team, but Xavier McKinney wanted to stay if the Giants were willing to give him a well deserved raise in salary. The Giants went cheap on this and the team lost a future Pro-Bowl Safety to Green Bay.
Now they have to draft a Safety when it wasn't necessary. McKinney is 24 years old and hasn't reached him prime years yet, now we'll watch him succeed on the Packers.
Stupid move by Schoen for allowing Xavier McKinney to leave.
I don't give a whole field of f**ks about the departed RB, but X is another story.
Burns or McKinney + Barkley?  
BH28 : 3/18/2024 10:09 pm : link
Burns 10 out of 10. He's going to make way more impact on this team than if we re-signed X.
I was a big McKinney fan  
Rudy5757 : 3/18/2024 11:03 pm : link
But that was too much money. JS should have transition tagged him or franchised him then signed him to a more reasonable deal He wouldn’t be able too see his market value if he didn’t hit the market.

The comp picks for the Giants always get cancelled out by the fact that we have to shop in FA to make up for bad drafting.

But it is what it is. McKinney didn’t make enough plays but he’s only 24 and on the rise so you pay for potential.
Maybe.  
prdave73 : 3/19/2024 12:59 am : link
I'm more pissed off we didn't try to keep our offensive play-maker Barkley! Our offensive leader as well! That pisses me off.
RE: You can’t pay a safety that kind of money.  
FranknWeezer : 3/19/2024 1:34 am : link
In comment 16438146 DeVito32 said:
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Unless he’s Ed Reed. McKinney was a good safety. He wasn’t all pro or elite. He wasn’t a difference maker. Barkley was much more of a difference maker and nobody wanted to pay him $12mil let alone $17mil. Curl got a 2yr deal worth a max of $13mil. Is McKinney better than Curl? Yeah. But I’d a million times rather have Curl at $6.5mil a year than McKinney at $17mil. Positional value is real. That’s why all those high priced safeties got cut this year. You can’t allocate that much of your cap into that position.


Reed or Polamalu.
RE: Blue Fin  
bluefin : 3/19/2024 6:30 am : link
In comment 16438165 AROCK1000 said:
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In comment 16438124 bluefin said:


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but he’s gone and there’s nothing we can do about it



I used to eat in that Diner all the time...it's in Maspeth Queens in a very Industrial area...
He's Gone....

I hope the phone booth is still there.
X-Man was a great player  
mavric : 3/19/2024 9:45 am : link
Unfortunately, he does not play a position in the new style of cap management in which top money is only paid to power positions (QB, ER, WR). General managers finally figured out how to spend to build championships. Right out of Belichick's handbook when he built the Patriots into a dynasty. Same thing has happened to the RB position. It's all about money management when a cap is involved.
I am  
Breeze_94 : 3/19/2024 9:51 am : link
But Burns trade made it less annoying.
RE: X-Man was a great player  
TDMaker85 : 3/19/2024 11:26 am : link
In comment 16438626 mavric said

He was not a great player.
Go watch his tackling in the Jets game  
TDMaker85 : 3/19/2024 11:27 am : link
With your checkbook out. 17M?
^ THIS!  
gtt350 : 3/19/2024 12:25 pm : link
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No  
jeff57 : 3/19/2024 12:31 pm : link
You're not.
RE: McKinney was simply not worth  
regulator : 3/19/2024 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16438089 Chris684 said:
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The stupid decision to ride an ATV in season.


It was a sightseeing tour.

A.
SIGHT.
SEEING.
TOUR.
I do think he's an outstanding player  
allstarjim : 3/19/2024 12:32 pm : link
But he plays a non-premium position and he got paid premium dollars for the position. Good for him, and good for Schoen for being disciplined. There will hopefully be a day very soon (once DJ money is clear), that Schoen can afford to pay that big money to a safety or TE or what have you, but today is not the day.

He's building this roster from the inside out, allocating the resources to where they have the biggest impact, and I think that's important.
RE: …  
Jaenyg : 3/19/2024 12:39 pm : link
In comment 16438069 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I have high hopes for Belton.


Sadly, I don’t. I think he’s been opportunistic and a ball hawk, which is great, but his tackling has left a lot to be desired. I don’t think this is necessarily something that gets better. You either understand angles and can control your body to them, or you can’t.
The bar is pretty low if we're pining for  
widmerseyebrow : 3/19/2024 12:46 pm : link
an above average safety.

I think it's encouraging that we're allocating resources correctly.
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