3 QB options on draft night

I'm no QB expert, but it seems Maye has a lot of potential upside. I'd love to see him working with Daboll.

ideally I'd like those 2nd and 3rd rounders kept this year (and our picks next year given risk/roster needs).

1. CHI -- Williams
2. WAS -- Daniels
3. MIN (trade) -- McCarthy
4. ARI -- MHJr
5. LAC -- Odunze
6. NYG -- Maye

Not necessarily likely, but plausible

I would love to have McCarthy or one of the top three QB's if one or more drops to 6. That would be a nice get still having our second round pick and next year's draft uncompromised.

However, I would also be happy with Nix and another first rounder to add to the talent base of this team.

So B.......but not a problem with C.

No to A.

In comment 16442514 logman said:

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1. CHI -- Williams 2. WAS -- Daniels 3. MIN (trade) -- McCarthy 4. ARI -- MHJr 5. LAC -- Odunze 6. NYG -- Maye Not necessarily likely, but plausible

You're not wrong, there are probably a few other weird ones, I guess I should have included the caveat here "of what's most likely to happen".

Has been my plan all along. I like Penix but if they like Nix its fine with me.

After which, I can decide what Move makes the most sense.....

In comment 16442520 Chris684 said:

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In comment 16442514 logman said: Quote: 1. CHI -- Williams 2. WAS -- Daniels 3. MIN (trade) -- McCarthy 4. ARI -- MHJr 5. LAC -- Odunze 6. NYG -- Maye Not necessarily likely, but plausible You're not wrong, there are probably a few other weird ones, I guess I should have included the caveat here "of what's most likely to happen".

I think it's possible that one of Maye or McCarthy making it to 6 but I don't think the Giants would want to wait around and hope. If there is a chance to get to 3 and you like both QBs and are able to trade up you do so to get the pick of the two. If one or both are available at 4 you would do the same. The Vikings are lurking and they might like the same QB the Giants do so they need to be proactive.

I would prefer to get the QB in Round 2 if its not the top 3.
I would also consider the 11th, a 2nd or 3rd this year with their #1 in 2025. And go get a QB in 2025 with out 2 1's.

Are a no way for me.

They will be critized for overdrafting regardless of how it works out.
A. Trade up and draft Maye or McCarthy. OVERDRAFT
B. Stay put and draft Maye or McCarthy. OVERDRAFT
C. Trade back in first round and draft McCarthy or Nix/Penix. OVERDRAFT

The Giants need to pick the QB they feel is the best for the future, as early as they can get him without selling the farm.

Giants trade #6 to Minnesota for #11 and #23 and select one of Nix/Penix at #11

...?
0 fucks given.

I like B plus weapons.

Easily

A.

or in a perfect world, Maye somehow falls to #6.

In comment 16442565 BlueVinnie said:

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or in a perfect world, Maye somehow falls to #6.

Would still be pleased with A. C doesn't thrill me.

A or B. If they value Maye and McCarthy the same, then B is more likely.

The scenario above has an "excellent" chance of happening, since Minn supposedly has targeted JJ. It all depends on how "real" is NE distaste for Maye or McCarthy and do they "really" have interest in Nix? If all those answers are YES, this scenario is VERY likely (provided Wash takes Daniels at 2)

taking a QB on day 1. They are going to get an outstanding WR either at 6 or after a slight trade down. The new QB will most likely happen 35 days from today in round 2.

I'd pay the price to get Maye or Daniels, who look to have a lot more upside than McCarthy.

the Nix/Penix route is not one I want to travel

3 legit 1 receivers in this draft. I want 1, I think true number 1s are the force multiplier we talk about here at times. I would trade up and get Penix after the receiver To me Penix has a very high upside, putting him and Odunze together would give the rookie a leg up. He knows he has guy he can chuck it to when shit is ugly. Penix isn’t as moveable as others, he needs this type of player with him. Penix has the cannon to deliver it wherever Odunze is on the field. Odunze is going to get stronger and better at these catches. Scary thought. Think Eli to Plax. I see this type of trust between the 2.

In comment 16442583 Spider56 said:

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taking a QB on day 1. They are going to get an outstanding WR either at 6 or after a slight trade down. The new QB will most likely happen 35 days from today in round 2.

I think you need to come to grips they're taking the QB Round 1.

What if they could get an outstanding receive in Round 2 or 3?

In comment 16442524 averagejoe said:

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Has been my plan all along. I like Penix but if they like Nix its fine with me.

I’m on that bandwagon too. But I love Nix. I think he will be best QB in this draft

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successful?

In comment 16442606 Earl the goat said:

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In comment 16442524 averagejoe said: Quote: Has been my plan all along. I like Penix but if they like Nix its fine with me. I’m on that bandwagon too. But I love Nix. I think he will be best QB in this draft

I like Nix, but scared by his average depth of target. It is awful, among the worst in big programs. So much YAC.

In comment 16442620 Jack Stroud said:

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successful?

More than Daniel Jones

YEP.

In comment 16442620 Jack Stroud said:

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successful?

1) They've added a lot of pieces to the line and there will continue to be additions.

2) Tyrod and Cutlets proved that this offense can still function behind last year's line to some degree.

3) There is no guarantee the rookie would start immediately. But they have a chance to get one now in a very deep QB draft so they need to strike when they can.

In comment 16442620 Jack Stroud said:

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successful?

Probably will struggle as a rookie, but could get better each year thereafter.

Unlike your guy.

In comment 16442620 Jack Stroud said:

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successful?

C'mon Jack. It's not about year 1 for rookie QBs. It's about having hope for the future. That being said, it would not be a stretch for the 2024 Giants to be as or more successful with a rookie QB than with any of the current trio.

Trade up and get the QB. If Maye turns out to be the franchise guy no one will care how much we traded to get him.

The problem is that if Minny trades up to 4, the Giants will be left holding their d**ks.

But think it’s likely someone Moves up to jump in front of us for JJ.

In comment 16442583 Spider56 said:

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taking a QB on day 1. They are going to get an outstanding WR either at 6 or after a slight trade down. The new QB will most likely happen 35 days from today in round 2.

Lets be real, at least 5 and potentially 6 of these QB’s are going round 1. What QB do you think will be on the board? I’m not using a 2nd on Rattler

Trading up is not an option for the Giants, they can’t afford to lose the premium picks. We have a chance to get a game changer at 6 and a solid starter in the 2nd and a contributor in the 3rd or we will never catch up to plug holes with NFL talent.

FA money is gone, WRs are gone unless you trade with no trade assets. A good QB will only marginally upgrade this team it’s not going to put us over the top. Realistically, a majority of the recent hall of fame QBs sat for their 1st year or most of it. The only one I can think of that started as a rookie was Peyton Manning and he had a brutal 1st year.

Only 2 QBs in NFL history that were traded up for won a Super Bowl. Eli and Mahomes and technically Eli was traded player for player. So far 32 trade ups failed to win the big game and more late round picks have had success than 1st round picks. Some recent 2nd rounders have become HOFers Brees, Farve.

Dallas has a 4th round QB and an UDFA prior. Philly has a 2nd rounder. Purdy was the last player drafted. Brady was a 6th rounder. What do all those teams have in common? They all have solid teams and star players around their QB. Have you watched Philly play, he is either throwing to wide open receivers or throwing it up for grabs and his guys get it.

Our #1 WR is Slayton. He wouldn’t start on any of those other teams and probably very few in the entire league. Robinson is a nice player but he hasn’t lasted a full season and is not a star, he’s a good player. No one is scared of Robinson.

In comment 16442676 GiantGrit said:

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In comment 16442583 Spider56 said: Quote: taking a QB on day 1. They are going to get an outstanding WR either at 6 or after a slight trade down. The new QB will most likely happen 35 days from today in round 2. Lets be real, at least 5 and potentially 6 of these QB’s are going round 1. What QB do you think will be on the board? I’m not using a 2nd on Rattler

Agreed.

If Nix and/or Penix somehow make it out of RD-1, 14 more players will be taken in RD-2 before the Giants' pick at 47. No way any of the top 6 QBs are going to last that long... unless Penix's medicals are not great, in which case, the Giants would likely pass anyway.

In comment 16442620 Jack Stroud said:

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successful?

This poster is beyond parody at this time.

5..

Option 1. Pats are not trading the pick. They need a QB desperately more than maybe any team in the league.

Option 2/3. If the Giants were going to pick a QB at 6, which I firmly believe they won't then they would probably pick JJM however it is probably a reach. But to trade down to 11 and pick either those 2 would be an extreme reach at 11. Neither one is a top 15/20 pick.

I think there's about a 25-34% chance JJM is there at 6 though, it's too risky imo. Then again Schoen will have better Intel on this and could plan accordingly.

I don't love Maye, but if he's their guy they should go get him.

And, if it's not Maye, just get their QB of choice, as possible. If they get their QB at 6, even better.

In comment 16442737 JonC said:

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And, if it's not Maye, just get their QB of choice, as possible. If they get their QB at 6, even better.

The best possible outcome to the QB debate is giving the FO as many choices at QB as possible when they pick. Waiting for 6 would be great if their guy fell but you can't bet on that. That's why I think they'll be aggressive in moving up where they can. Especially if 1-2 go the way they are rumored (Caleb-Jayden) and NE doesn't want Maye/McCarthy at 3.

would be a remote thrower for me. Don't want Maye at all let alone giving up assets to get him. Hoping JJM is there at 6 and the Giants nab him. If not I'm good with option C but I want nothing to do with Penix or even Nix that high. I'd rather build for a QB next year with the additional assets.

If the top 4 are gone by 6, trade down and acquire future picks.

Take a flier on Rattler or another QB round 2 or 3

Focus on OL, DB, DL, TE, RB

with A or B... That isn't a monster pay for pick 3 and if JJ falls that is even better. Option B would have me freaking out for 30 mins as AZ and LAC are on the clock, but it would be worth it.

In comment 16442737 JonC said:

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And, if it's not Maye, just get their QB of choice, as possible. If they get their QB at 6, even better.

I agree that a. Would be the wisest choice for whomever their guy is.

You have control of situations #2 and #3 to a certain degree. #1 you have no control and are at the behest of the Patriots deciding to pass on drafting a QB.

Trade down. I like Bowers and I like more draft picks

Look at 2025 for a QB to draft.

Keep building the roster. Nothing says a qb drafted at 11 wont be better than the top 3-4.its a crap shoot


And even if we pick a qb this year doesnt mean we cant pick one next year and trade this years qb pick.

Draft the stud WR, take a QB in day 2 or day 3.

Set the table for the QB first.