Pretty Rickey on NYG-NE potential trade

The cost is too damn high.

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If it land us a franchise QB, I'll throw in some cash too.

Way. That is in no way a sane deal.

Right up there with the Jones contract

unless Jayden Daniels or Caleb Williams are there this would make no sense. Two rookie contracts and our 1st next year! That is crazy to move up 3 spots.

the Giants want to get Ojulari and Neal off the roster and are basically paying New England to take them.

The deal could make more sense if there's conditional compensation coming back to the Giants depending on how those two players do.

It doesn't matter who the QB they pick is, as long as the kid is coached right and gets this team back on top. He can't do it alone, no QB can, but if they hit on the QB, it will go a long way.

I don't see Schoen agreeing to trade Neal right now, though.

Maybe keep the 2025 third...?

There is no 'cost too high' for a franchise QB. Its the most important position not only in the league, but probably in sports. If we trade up to 3 & Drake Maye-for example-is a perennial All Pro, no one is going to give AF what it took to get him. Having an elite QB puts you in the conversation to win every fall.

Of course it could be a total disaster. The draft is a crapshoot. But swing for the fences.

That seems like a lot for a team with so many holes to give up.

Daniel Jones and his contract as well.

too.

I'll throw in the lifetime supply of Del Taco if that lands my Inland Empire homeboy Jayden Daniels!

If you're losing sleep over losing Azeez-who barely plays-& Neal-who, right now, sucks-take some sleeping pills. Both of them aren't worth it.

I wouldn't give up on Neal yet, or even Ojulari now that Burns is in the fold.

Assuming this isn't a FAKE Pretty Rickey -- who the fuck is Pretty Rickey, and why should we give him any credence?

In comment 16443208 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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There is no 'cost too high' for a franchise QB. Its the most important position not only in the league, but probably in sports. If we trade up to 3 & Drake Maye-for example-is a perennial All Pro, no one is going to give AF what it took to get him. Having an elite QB puts you in the conversation to win every fall. Of course it could be a total disaster. The draft is a crapshoot. But swing for the fences.

And it if doesn't hit you are the Carolina Panthers with Bryce Young for Caleb Williams, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, plus more. It is easy in hindsight, but that is risky!

In comment 16443213 christian said:

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I'll throw in the lifetime supply of Del Taco if that lands my Inland Empire homeboy Jayden Daniels!

I was just glad your favorite player of all-time wasn't mentioned - #86.

In comment 16443208 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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There is no 'cost too high' for a franchise QB. Its the most important position not only in the league, but probably in sports. If we trade up to 3 & Drake Maye-for example-is a perennial All Pro, no one is going to give AF what it took to get him. Having an elite QB puts you in the conversation to win every fall. Of course it could be a total disaster. The draft is a crapshoot. But swing for the fences.

This is just not true. No offense but this is the burned out fan in you. Yes, plenty of franchises have been hindered by the cost of trading up for a QB. There are multiple ways to build up a team. Giving up this much pretty much guarantees this team isn't going anywhere because we have so many holes to fill and we will be limited on resources to do so. No QB ever does it on his own.

In comment 16443212 bw in dc said:

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too.

If that is the case... I take the deal

In comment 16443217 bw in dc said:

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I'll throw in the lifetime supply of Del Taco if that lands my Inland Empire homeboy Jayden Daniels! I was just glad your favorite player of all-time wasn't mentioned - #86.

This is no time for joking.

would be more upsetting than Neal and Ojulari

Yes, it could blow up in our face. That's a distinct possibility. But if Joe & Dabs think one of these QBs is a franchise QBs, move heaven & earth to get him. Fuck it. Be aggressive instead of passive.

are some concerned about losing the Turnstile (Neal) and Never Available (Ojulari)?

In comment 16443226 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Yes, it could blow up in our face. That's a distinct possibility. But if Joe & Dabs think one of these QBs is a franchise QBs, move heaven & earth to get him. Fuck it. Be aggressive instead of passive.

It's not aggressive. It's irresponsible.

In comment 16443213 christian said:

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I'll throw in the lifetime supply of Del Taco if that lands my Inland Empire homeboy Jayden Daniels!

I don't know...Del Taco has been one of the good discoveries about moving to the West Coast.

I'm fine with the cost of the trade, and I'd be very encouraged to see the front office acknowledging an error with Neal Rather than chasing a lost cause.

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To go from 6 to 3 in 2018. For Darnold.

A 1st, a 2nd AND a 3rd is far too much. Plus players?!

6 + next years 1st or 6 + 47 and next years 2nd. Is the very most that kind of trade should cost. I say stay put, don’t trade up OR trade back… get one of those 3 stud WR1’s (Harrison, Nabers, Odunze)

In comment 16443228 bw in dc said:

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are some concerned about losing the Turnstile (Neal) and Never Available (Ojulari)?

Personally I'm not. I like the Eluemenor signing. But I don't see Schoen moving on just yet. Ojulari I see more because he's on his final year and is hurt more than he plays.

too much in terms of draft picks. And then to add Ojulari and Neal is just crazy. I'd be really surprised and upset if Schoen agreed to that deal.

some of us were rooting for losses down the stretch last year? If this is true, it is a ton to give up, but I like the aggressiveness. Get the right QB Schoen.

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but he also says Andrew Thomas will restructure to create space and we’re interested in WR Corey Davis and S Julian Blackmon. So if we hear any of that in the next couple days..,

It’s massive haul. Especially when there are decent odds McCarthy is sitting there at 6.

If Joe is a smart GM-which I still have hopes for-he can make it work giving up a king's ransom for a QB. I think he's shown himself to be very good when it comes to trades, i.e. getting a second rounder for Leo/the Burns deal.

I might be a burnt out fan. I probably am. But I do legitimately think getting a franchise QB is the quickest way to compete in this league. We need one. And losing Azzez & Neal...again, not losing sleep over either. The former is good when healthy, which is next to never, & the latter has 'bust' written all over him right now.

As i was looking at it

They could have just lost those meaningless games with Tommy cutlets and wouldn’t have to overpay now.

Drake Maye? I will not be ok if this happens. Seems ridiculous.

In comment 16443242 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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If Joe is a smart GM-which I still have hopes for-he can make it work giving up a king's ransom for a QB. I think he's shown himself to be very good when it comes to trades, i.e. getting a second rounder for Leo/the Burns deal. I might be a burnt out fan. I probably am. But I do legitimately think getting a franchise QB is the quickest way to compete in this league. We need one. And losing Azzez & Neal...again, not losing sleep over either. The former is good when healthy, which is next to never, & the latter has 'bust' written all over him right now.

That's called wishful thinking. Look at this roster. Schoen hasn't done shit in 2 years.

I’d be pissed at that compensation level.

So who knows. There were a bunch of “predictions” in there, not just Giants stuff. Could have been a troll, could have been legit. Either way, that’s a lot to give up. Also, original Ricky said 47 for Burns, ended up as 39. So maybe a trade brewing but that won’t be the compensation in the end…

and allowing for Herschel Walker/Ricky Williams madness, the cost for a QB is only ever too high if you're wrong.

In comment 16443228 bw in dc said:

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are some concerned about losing the Turnstile (Neal) and Never Available (Ojulari)?

If we trade Neal we now have a hole at OG. Neal can still be good at RT or RG. Ojulari is a nice third pass rusher, but really I don't want to give up the #1 next year. That is where the deal gets killed for me unless it includes DJ.... Then I am all in.

I'm not done with Neal yet

GT, preach it man. The moment I get off the plane back to CA my first order of business is Del Taco.

I grew up about 45 minutes from Daniels. At the time where I lived was a fairly small town. We'd play the teams from the San Bernardino area and they'd beat us down.

I'm no Schoen Kool Aid drinker, but I think he took Seattle & Carolina to the cleaners on those trades.

But it looks like this trade-based on above posts-is fake so...se la vie.

I am just so thirsty for a franchise QB. I'd probably give up a finger for one, Haha. This is the most beaten down I've been as a Giants fan in awhile. Just give me hope.

is closed already

In comment 16443259 upnyg said:

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is closed already

All of his accounts have been closed.

Pretty Rickey trade better

Hopefully he pops up here with some actual inside info again.

But he has been a terrible player in these two years. Terrible. The Giants' culture for a decade has been to keep terrible players in the hope they'll become good.

It's time for a new approach.