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Steve Serby: NY Post Mock draft 3

GFAN52 : 3/23/2024 2:05 pm
This should get a rise out of the pro-McCarthy camp, they have no QB trade ups and he falls to 11 to the Vikings. Seems unrealistic to me.

1. Bears - Williams
2. Commanders - Daniels
3. Patriots - Maye
4. Cardinals - MHjr.
5. Chargers - Nabers
6. Giants -Rome Odunze, WR, Washington

QB Daniel Jones has never had the luxury of a physical, can’t-miss, 6-foot-3, 215-pound No. 1 receiver who makes the contested catches and is high-character. A rookie quarterback will come later.
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Id rather have Penix  
fish3321 : 3/23/2024 2:08 pm : link
than Mccarthy. Better arm, did more with less. Put Penix on that stacked Michigan team and hes lock top 5 pick. Go ahead disagree.
Obviously, he doesn't read BBI  
George from PA : 3/23/2024 2:08 pm : link
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RE: Id rather have Penix  
Scooter185 : 3/23/2024 2:09 pm : link
In comment 16443834 fish3321 said:
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than Mccarthy. Better arm, did more with less. Put Penix on that stacked Michigan team and hes lock top 5 pick. Go ahead disagree.


The problem with Penix isn't his ability
I love Penix but it's pretty clear he's going to drop  
Go Terps : 3/23/2024 2:10 pm : link
The injury history is going to push him down.

If the Giants drafted Penix in round 2 or 3 it would be apparent very quickly who the best QB on the team is, and it would be hard to explain keeping him on the bench.
RE: Id rather have Penix  
BleedBlue46 : 3/23/2024 2:12 pm : link
In comment 16443834 fish3321 said:
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than Mccarthy. Better arm, did more with less. Put Penix on that stacked Michigan team and hes lock top 5 pick. Go ahead disagree.


Pennix had one of the best pass pro lines in the league a blue chip surefire top guy in Odunze and a wr whom is underrated and will be picked in the NFL draft as well in Jalin McMillan. Along with a good rungame. You could argue the opposite, if JJM was on Washington he could be the 2nd pick easily. Pennix will fall due to his age and 4 major surgeries. If you take away the age and injuries, he's a top pick.
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GFAN52 : 3/23/2024 2:12 pm : link
In comment 16443837 Scooter185 said:
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than Mccarthy. Better arm, did more with less. Put Penix on that stacked Michigan team and hes lock top 5 pick. Go ahead disagree.



The problem with Penix isn't his ability


Two ACL surgeries on the same right knee, in addition to his other injuries and age.
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/23/2024 2:19 pm : link
Whenever I read Serby, I immediately think John Mara wish casting.
😁 Our very own Larry Fitzgerald  
charlito : 3/23/2024 2:19 pm : link
For 10+ years. Then QB in the 2nd
People still read  
SirLoinOfBeef : 3/23/2024 2:19 pm : link
The Post?..

 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/23/2024 2:21 pm : link
& for the record, I’m fine with Rome at 6. If Joe and Dabs can’t move up or don’t think JJ is a franchise QB, fine. Don’t take JJ for the sake of taking a QB. I only want them to move up or take a QB at six if they have a conviction he can be an elite QB.
RE: Id rather have Penix  
JT039 : 3/23/2024 2:25 pm : link
In comment 16443834 fish3321 said:
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than Mccarthy. Better arm, did more with less. Put Penix on that stacked Michigan team and hes lock top 5 pick. Go ahead disagree.


Washington’s OL was voted the best in college football
He’s going to have 3 WRs drafted in the first 3 rounds
RB drafted probably in round 4-5

How in the hell did he have less to work with?
RE: Id rather have Penix  
Tuckrule : 3/23/2024 2:27 pm : link
In comment 16443834 fish3321 said:
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than Mccarthy. Better arm, did more with less. Put Penix on that stacked Michigan team and hes lock top 5 pick. Go ahead disagree.


No he isn’t. It’s not about college production. It’s about projecting to the next level. Scouts don’t look at stats. They look at how it translates. Penix below average athlete. Injury history. Benefited from college rules of wide hashes leaving much more room to the field side. When he was forced to throw into tight windows he failed. There’s a reason Rome was the best 50/50 ball catcher in the nation. The wider hashes is why many college qbs look great and when they get to the next level they can’t do it. Also penix didn’t use the middle of the field often. It was all out wide.
RE: 😁 Our very own Larry Fitzgerald  
Tuckrule : 3/23/2024 2:29 pm : link
In comment 16443845 charlito said:
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For 10+ years. Then QB in the 2nd


Yes! But I’ll keep pumping rattler until after day 2. Being slept on by fans and media. He will be drafted latest round 3 possibly round 2
I like Odunze  
Breeze_94 : 3/23/2024 2:29 pm : link
But after diving into the class further, he’s a clear notch below MHJ and Nabers in terms of talent and upside. At the same time, I think he is a safer pick than Nabers.
Having gone from Eli to Jones at qb, we can clearly see the difference  
Ira : 3/23/2024 2:30 pm : link
between having an injury prone qb to one who takes the field every game. Penix would not be on my draft board. I don't care how much talent he has.
RE: People still read  
JCassmen : 3/23/2024 2:31 pm : link
In comment 16443847 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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The Post?..


It's the NY Post, not the Washington Post...
RE: People still read  
BigBlueShock : 3/23/2024 2:39 pm : link
In comment 16443847 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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The Post?..

Yes. Why?
I may be wrong, but  
Gman11 : 3/23/2024 2:40 pm : link
IMO if the Giants don't draft a QB at 6 it isn't because they are still enamored with Jones. It's more because they QBs they wanted weren't available. They'll try to strengthen other parts of the team then get the QB next year.
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charlito : 3/23/2024 2:41 pm : link
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For 10+ years. Then QB in the 2nd



Yes! But I’ll keep pumping rattler until after day 2. Being slept on by fans and media. He will be drafted latest round 3 possibly round 2


Not me.I've been saying Rattler in the 2nd round for the past couple of weeks, but BBI keep saying he's a head case. I've seen him play alot this past season behind a terrible Oline.Played pretty well in the SEC mind you.Would love for the Giants to get him.
RE: RE: RE: 😁 Our very own Larry Fitzgerald  
GFAN52 : 3/23/2024 2:51 pm : link
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For 10+ years. Then QB in the 2nd



Yes! But I’ll keep pumping rattler until after day 2. Being slept on by fans and media. He will be drafted latest round 3 possibly round 2



Not me.I've been saying Rattler in the 2nd round for the past couple of weeks, but BBI keep saying he's a head case. I've seen him play alot this past season behind a terrible Oline.Played pretty well in the SEC mind you.Would love for the Giants to get him.



6'1" he sure would be the atypical Giants QB.
It’s funny people keep claiming all these WRs are can’t miss  
ajr2456 : 3/23/2024 2:59 pm : link
Prospects. Odds are one of the top 3 WRs taken don’t end up in the top 5 of WRs from this draft.
The Giants haven't had a #1 receiver since they traded OBJ  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/23/2024 3:16 pm : link
...and honestly, he hadn't played like a #1 WR since 2016.

It's been a long freakin' time. I would not be upset with this pick IF they also can somehow pull of drafting Penix or Nix.
RE: Id rather have Penix  
Stratman : 3/23/2024 3:33 pm : link
In comment 16443834 fish3321 said:
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than Mccarthy. Better arm, did more with less. Put Penix on that stacked Michigan team and hes lock top 5 pick. Go ahead disagree.


Fish. Penix's arm is unreal. Although subject to some stretches of inaccuracy. JJM is very quick and elusive in the pocket and throws well on the run. I agree Penix would've put up even better numbers with the talent JJM had. I'm not in either the JJM or Penix camp. Although both are talents. I think sticking at 6 and getting a top WR is the play. We need the rest of our draft capital for other positions, including QB.
Another problem with Penix  
Blue92 : 3/23/2024 3:37 pm : link
His blind side as a LH QB would be very suspect on the Giants.
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4xchamps : 3/23/2024 3:39 pm : link
In comment 16443844 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Whenever I read Serby, I immediately think John Mara wish casting.


More BS Mara narratives
Penix  
upnyg : 3/23/2024 4:23 pm : link
I like him as well. If we ever had a deep passing game, he's a good fit. But there are no rumors of him landing with the Giants...mostly JJ and Maye. We will see!
Bobby Skinner with a helpful infographic  
Scooter185 : 3/23/2024 4:45 pm : link
On why the Giants should draft a QB

Well he "updated" it from another Tweeter
Take the QB! - ( New Window )
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/23/2024 5:46 pm : link
In comment 16443948 4xchamps said:
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Whenever I read Serby, I immediately think John Mara wish casting.



More BS Mara narratives


Read some of Serby’s Giants columns and get back to me.
RE: Bobby Skinner with a helpful infographic  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/23/2024 5:53 pm : link
In comment 16443995 Scooter185 said:
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On why the Giants should draft a QB

Well he "updated" it from another Tweeter Take the QB! - ( New Window )


When did Skinner finally realize that Jones ain't it?
Ya the injuries will hurt him.  
Giant John : 3/23/2024 5:55 pm : link
Especially if he is behind a line that can’t block. He is not a big runner either.if he played behind the Giants line last year I doubt he gets through the first game.
RE: RE: 😁 Our very own Larry Fitzgerald  
section125 : 3/24/2024 6:45 am : link
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For 10+ years. Then QB in the 2nd



Yes! But I’ll keep pumping rattler until after day 2. Being slept on by fans and media. He will be drafted latest round 3 possibly round 2


Yeah, we see you pumping Rattler. Why? He is awful. I'd take Jordon Travis over him.
RE: Another problem with Penix  
section125 : 3/24/2024 6:49 am : link
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His blind side as a LH QB would be very suspect on the Giants.


That is irrelevant. You don't skip a QB because of the oline. Besides they signed Eluemonur...
I think if the first 5 unfold like that ...  
FStubbs : 3/24/2024 7:25 am : link
... the Giants would get some good trade offers from Denver, LV, and Minnesota for the #6 pick and they trade down.
"A rookie qb will come later"  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 3/24/2024 1:09 pm : link
Yes bc when we pick at 12 next year we'll just flip a few 3rd round compensatory picks to another qb needy team and they'll say yes because it's our turn

I pray we trade down if we don't go qb this year
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BleedBlue46 : 3/24/2024 1:16 pm : link
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His blind side as a LH QB would be very suspect on the Giants.



That is irrelevant. You don't skip a QB because of the oline. Besides they signed Eluemonur...


Yes, I think Eleumanor is a very underrated signing. He is a good RT and a solid RG, but better at RT. If Schdabka can't get a QB they want in rd1 I'd trade our 2nd and 3rd to nab Pennix in the back of round 1 absolutely (if he is there).
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GFAN52 : 3/24/2024 1:19 pm : link
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His blind side as a LH QB would be very suspect on the Giants.



That is irrelevant. You don't skip a QB because of the oline. Besides they signed Eluemonur...



Yes, I think Eleumanor is a very underrated signing. He is a good RT and a solid RG, but better at RT. If Schdabka can't get a QB they want in rd1 I'd trade our 2nd and 3rd to nab Pennix in the back of round 1 absolutely (if he is there).


No way do I spend a 2nd and 3rd on Penix, with his injury history and age.
RE: RE: 😁 Our very own Larry Fitzgerald  
IchabodGiant : 3/24/2024 3:37 pm : link
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For 10+ years. Then QB in the 2nd



Yes! But I’ll keep pumping rattler until after day 2. Being slept on by fans and media. He will be drafted latest round 3 possibly round 2


The Rattler love is baffling. Maybe as a good backup/spot starter. Nothing more.
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